Ryan Bertrand

[Spike 12,049]

Absolutely laughable! Why? What exactly does he lack? Ryan is currently miles ahead of Shaw who admittedly has more potential.

Is that so?

[Special Juan 28,123]

I have seen nothing to suggest that Bertrand is miles ahead of Shaw what so ever.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Is that so?

Yes, I think so. Bertrand is currently able to put in consistent solid performances; he only had one sub-par performance at LB and that was against Shakhtar. He's also defensively much better than Shaw atm. Like I said, Shaw has more potential and could become a better LB. He is just being hyped because of 2 great performances.

[Spike 12,049]

Yes, I think so. Bertrand is currently able to put in consistent solid performances; he only had one sub-par performance at LB and that was against Shakhtar. He's also defensively much better than Shaw atm. Like I said, Shaw has more potential and could become a better LB. He is just being hyped because of 2 great performances.

Is that so? If it is, why? What if Shaw has had 2 great games and the rest very solid games? That's two more great games than Bertrand and one less shit game.

Food for thought.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Is that so? If it is, why? What if Shaw has had 2 great games and the rest very solid games? That's two more great games than Bertrand and one less shit game.

Food for thought.

Like I said, defensively Bertrand is still miles ahead, which is only natural because of how many more competitive matches Ryan has played. His tactical awareness and decision making is also much better. Shaw has showed glimpses that he can become a great LB, but he's still 17/18, to say that we need to throw away our proven LB for him is just flimsy supporting.

[Spike 12,049]

Like I said, defensively Bertrand is still miles ahead, which is only natural because of how many more competitive matches Ryan has played. His tactical awareness and decision making is also much better. Shaw has showed glimpses that he can become a great LB, but he's still 17/18, to say that we need to throw away our proven LB for him is just flimsy supporting.

Does more games really equate to all that? Dies Shaw not have more Premier League games?

[Jase 43,479]

Does more games really equate to all that? Dies Shaw not have more Premier League games?

Bertrand: 27 Premier League appearances, 7 as sub

Shaw: 22 Premier League appearances, 3 as sub

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Does more games really equate to all that? Dies Shaw not have more Premier League games?

I'm not saying that Ryan is better based on who played more. I'm saying from watching the two LBs, I can clearly see that Bertrand is better defensively and tactically. Then I go on to analyze that and say that it might be because Ryan has played more competitive matches.

[English Freak 456]

I'm not saying that Ryan is better based on who played more. I'm saying from watching the two LBs, I can clearly see that Bertrand is better defensively and tactically. Then I go on to analyze that and say that it might be because Ryan has played more competitive matches.

From what i've seen in Shaw, he's a much better overall player than Bertrand. At such a young age, he seems to be handling the pace and intensity of the EPL quite well.

Just imagine what Shaw could become at Bertrand's age...

In the limited number of games i've seen Bertrand play, he's slightly better than Shaw on the defensive aspect.

Maybe in the future, we'll see both Shaw and Bertrand fighting it out for Chelsea's LB spot.

[lucio 5,418]

bertrand is nowhere near shaw. dont embarrass yourself. bertrand is a hard working but ultimately very average player. shaw is allot better. the stats posted clearly show that and in a far lesser team as well.

[Leif 6,006]

I say Shaw is better. I say Shaw is better defensively. I also say he is much better offensively. In fact I'd say he's the 2nd best English full-back at attacking, behind only Baines. I say Bertrand would be lucky to tie Shaw's shoes one day.

[Jype 6,398]

bertrand is nowhere near shaw. dont embarrass yourself. bertrand is a hard working but ultimately very average player. shaw is allot better. the stats posted clearly show that and in a far lesser team as well.

The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence, isn't it?

Bertrand and Shaw are both solid full-backs with lots of potential to improve so why always compare the two? Personally I would've preferred if Cole had left after this season and be replaced with Shaw, leaving us with these two young English players Shaw and Bertrand rotating at LB but I guess that plan could well be delayed for a year with Cole's new contract running up in 2014. At the moment however, I wouldn't be taking Shaw over Bertrand. Not because I don't rate Shaw as highly as I do Bertrand but because the club needs stability and homegrown players. If we're going after Shaw this summer, we'd be better of loaning him back to Southampton for another year and then get him back once Cole leaves but getting rid of Bertrand and having Shaw as a backup till Ashley finally moves on would be nothing but a pointless short term solution and expensive too.

[FabHazard 655]

We should buy shaw this summer and loan him back to southampton.After ashley leaves in 2014 we can potentially have two english players fighting for LB spot so that we need not worry about cole's replacement.

Bert is a good player.I would wonder why he is not trying to dribble regularly

[ja1 1,166]

It's not a case of Bertrand or Shaw. I would be very happy with Bertrand AND Shaw.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

It's not a case of Bertrand or Shaw. I would be very happy with Bertrand AND Shaw.

Same here