Despiadado.Maleante 1,046 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Rambo-Essien/Mikelis the only pivot pairing that can win the midfield battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 their only dangerous player is RVP. we have to find a way to mark him out of the game. if we can do this, I cant see much problems. Valencia is quite awful at the moment, Giggs is past it and so on. We have to see how Rooney will perform, but I dont think that he will do his best against us, maybe to force his move hopefully. futhermore Zaha could be a threat, but I dont think that he will start, so will only be playing 30 mins maybe. we dominated them last season and I dont see any reason why we cant do this again. Would start with thisCech; Azpi/Ivan (cant really decide), Cahill, Terry, Cole; Ramires, MVG (would throw him in the hot water and see how he reacts), Oscar, Hazard, Mata; Lukaku. 2nd half I would be bring on Schürrle and myabe Lamps, if more offense is needed. Would also like to see Moses on the bench, because he offeres more witdh. If we have to decide between Mikel/Essien I would clearly pick Mikel. He could win some aerial-battles against RVP and offers better protetcion in defense. Essien is past it, I dont see any future for him at our club. I think that he is only here, because he is Mous best buddy as it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 You do realise you are contradicting yourself? I think you were the one who started calling me names. You are not really a smart person are you? Good response NOT, name calling is so childish and frankly quite ignorant. End of back to the game Drop it, or take it out via PMs. Any more insults thrown around in this thread will result in official warnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Think Azpi starts for sure. And I can see Mikel or Essien in the lineup in place of Lampard. The rest might be the same. Or possibly Lukaku starts as well. Cech Azpi - Cahill - Terry - Cole Ramires - Essien KDB - Oscar - Hazard Lukaku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegenTerry 273 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Think Azpi starts for sure. And I can see Mikel or Essien in the lineup in place of Lampard. The rest might be the same. Or possibly Lukaku starts as well.CechAzpi - Cahill - Terry - ColeRamires - EssienKDB - Oscar - HazardLukakuNo way,Ivanović is starting the game for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 yes but United's midfield is pretty shit and United usually park the bus anyway so we tend to dominate possession in all our games against them. 4-2-3-1 would be fine IMO. Remember last season's games.Yes, United's midfield is rubbish but their approach play they adopted last season was under Fergie. Moyes may approach this game in a different manner especially with it being his first home game and big game as United's manager. Not knowing how each manager would setup here, both Moyes and Mourinho might look to start cagey-ly to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 (edited) Think Azpi starts for sure. And I can see Mikel or Essien in the lineup in place of Lampard. The rest might be the same. Or possibly Lukaku starts as well.CechAzpi - Cahill - Terry - ColeRamires - EssienKDB - Oscar - HazardLukakuCan't see how Mourinho would throw an unfit Azpi straight away in a big game like this at Old Trafford. He's likely to stick with the same back 4 that played the last 2 games and just tweak the midfield and striker selection. Edited August 25, 2013 by BluesMaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit 3,176 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Think Azpi starts for sure. And I can see Mikel or Essien in the lineup in place of Lampard. The rest might be the same. Or possibly Lukaku starts as well.CechAzpi - Cahill - Terry - ColeRamires - EssienKDB - Oscar - HazardLukakuI think the backline will remain the same. Mikel should partner Ramires instead of Essien for me. Otherwise i will go in with this lineup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Can't see how Mourinho would throw an unfit Azpi straight away in a big game like this at Old Trafford. He's slightly to stick with the same back 4 that played the last 2 games and just tweak the midfield and striker selection.Why would you say he's unfit? Mourinho himself said he was going to play Azpi vs. Villa but opted for Ivan because of Benteke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 Why would you say he's unfit? Mourinho himself said he was going to play Azpi vs. Villa but opted for Ivan because of Benteke.He can play but obviously still doesn't have 100% match fitness yet. Mourinho wanted to give Azpi game time then so that he can improve on his match fitness but of course opted against it for the reason you mentioned there.It's just like we all saw with Mata the other day. Although he wasn't playing his favoured position, we could see that he wasn't fully match fit still and it contributed to his quiet performance against Villa. Mourinho won't throw Azpi into this game of such magnitude when he's not at 100% yet. It's a risk.If anything, he'll play him against Bayern where not so much is at stake for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,442 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I think the backline will remain the same. Mikel should partner Ramires instead of Essien for me. Otherwise i will go in with this lineup! Don't agree with that.Mikel+ Ramires best works in two situations:1. When the opposition is sitting entirely in their half2. When our team is defending very deepPlaying Utd is different from Tottenham or Arsenal. I doubt Mikel and Ramires will win the midfield battle against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Thank you for ending the nonsense. I merely stated an opinion on a player and all these guys jumped on me and started arguing fairly rudely as i didnt agree with them. In all honestly it was nothing to do with them, and i am sorry but i will defend myself. It seems quite frequent on forums that when a woman disagree with them, they lose it.Anyway I am in no way sorry to them, as i said i will defend myself but i am sorry the arguing resulted in consuming the thread.I hope they will just ignore me if they disagree instead of that nonsense.Moving onto the game. I was thinking is there no chance you could play Torres and Lukaku together upfront? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Yes, United's midfield is rubbish but their approach play they adopted last season was under Fergie. Moyes may approach this game in a different manner especially with it being his first home game and big game as United's manager. Not knowing how each manager would setup here, both Moyes and Mourinho might look to start cagey-ly to begin with.I don't think they are rubbish at all. They know their role which is to move the ball quickly, not give the ball away, and not make mistakes. The entire setup of ManU is to try to feed Van Persie and whoever is behind him (Rooney, Welbeck, etc...) It's not a great midfield of course, but it did it's job well last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Yes, United's midfield is rubbish but their approach play they adopted last season was under Fergie. Moyes may approach this game in a different manner especially with it being his first home game and big game as United's manager. Not knowing how each manager would setup here, both Moyes and Mourinho might look to start cagey-ly to begin with.I say we hit them hard early. Catch them for pace. Expose the fact that they don't have the quickest midfield in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Don't agree with that.Mikel+ Ramires best works in two situations:1. When the opposition is sitting entirely in their half2. When our team is defending very deepPlaying Utd is different from Tottenham or Arsenal. I doubt Mikel and Ramires will win the midfield battle against them. The four times last season that Mikel-Ramires played against United they won the midfield battle and we were the better team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 What about Essien or Van Ginkel in the pivot? What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 What about Essien or Van Ginkel in the pivot? What do you think?Makes more sense if you want to keep it tight, probably with Van Ginkel and his workrate in both defence and attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Makes more sense if you want to keep it tight, probably with Van Ginkel and his workrate in both defence and attack.Yea I like Van Ginkel too. I'd love it if either him or Essien played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Gana be weird not seeing Fergie not chewing gum.Hope little shit doesnt score in a dodgy way or anyone for that matter!Big game..no doubt the papers be making a massive deal out of whoever wins/looses despite being only a few games in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 After City failed we have to do our job.Game's not over till it's over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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