Fernando Torres

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  On 16/12/2012 at 17:57, manpe said:

You mean Drogba v Bayern or Torres v Curintia? That's not a real question, is it?

Yeah, I know!

Just an example of how important goals are, they are basically all that matters. Torres was indeed better than Drogba during their games, but nobody gives a damm because he does not score and provide us with victories and trophies. How important would Torres goal be? Unimaginable, specially if we had won it...

However, he is the most hated player I will have ever seen, PUSSY!

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  On 16/12/2012 at 17:59, Backstreet09 said:

Well , Torres doesn't seem to have the luck Drogba had . I totally agree Drogba was shit last season even in the game again bayern but well the luck was with him , he even gave a penalty but cech saved it

Three of his 5 goal tally in recent games have been down to lucky rebounds, the Thin Spanish Waiter can't complain about luck - he was getting the rub of the green against some abject opposition.

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  On 16/12/2012 at 18:00, Tomo-91 said:

2 great chances today he missed, the late on made us all forget the one i the first half which was just as bad

Which one? I slept in first ~10 minutes so I might have missed it. I need to fuel my anger.

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LOL AT LUCK. But let's suppose Drogba was indeed lucky for the sake of argument, I'd rather have a lucky one than a shit, unlucky one like Torres

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  On 16/12/2012 at 18:04, manpe said:

Which one? I slept in first ~10 minutes so I might have missed it. I need to fuel my anger.

I can't find a video for it but it was similar to the one against Stoke, one on one and somehow the keeper not only saved it but caught it too.

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Just re-watched that miss. HOLY FUCK EVEN A VIETNAM VETERAN WITH ONLY ONE LEG WOULD HAVE SCORED THERE!

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  On 16/12/2012 at 17:59, Backstreet09 said:

Well , Torres doesn't seem to have the luck Drogba had . I totally agree Drogba was shit last season even in the game again bayern but well the luck was with him , he even gave a penalty but cech saved it

So now it was all down to luck that Drogba saved our asses game after game last season in the Champions League. Two goals against Valencia, pure luck. The header against Napoli that started our comeback, luck again. Only goal at Stamford Bridge against Barcelona, luck. Equalizer with only minutes to go in Munich and the decisive penalty after extra time, the opponent must have been shit. That's one lucky motherfucker, I have to say.

Torres would definitely outscore Messi with such luck.

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  On 16/12/2012 at 17:45, manpe said:

"Apart from that miss", you make it sound like that miss was no big deal. It was everything, it was the make or break moment for Torres in that game. Had he scored that, we wouldn't be talking half the shit we are right now about him. Actually had he scored that and we went on to win, he'd likely be lauded as a hero. That miss WAS his whole performance, nothing else matters.

For example Drogba was generally quite invisible against Bayern, even crap I would say, but thanks to his goal and penalty he was voted greatest player in Chelsea history. Had he not scored and had Robben converted that penalty, he wouldn't get anywhere near the plaudits he's getting now. Goals and taking your chances, even if it's "only" one 100% chance in game, are the only things that matter for strikers, not some fucking runs.

AMEN

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  On 16/12/2012 at 18:05, Tomo-91 said:

I can't find a video for it but it was similar to the one against Stoke, one on one and somehow the keeper not only saved it but caught it too.

Ok, I will search for highlights, maybe it's there.

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  On 16/12/2012 at 17:59, Backstreet09 said:

Well , Torres doesn't seem to have the luck Drogba had . I totally agree Drogba was shit last season even in the game again bayern but well the luck was with him , he even gave a penalty but cech saved it

Luck? No sir, those all important goals that Drogba got against Napoli, Barcelona, Tottenham, Liverpool and most importantly, Bayern were not down to luck. You don't get 9 goals in 9 finals by luck. It takes ability and mental strength. What Drogba had was a winner's mentality. It is what successful players must have and what losers mistake for luck.

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  On 16/12/2012 at 18:13, CHOULO19 said:

Luck? No sir, those all important goals that Drogba got against Napoli, Barcelona, Tottenham, Liverpool and most importantly, Bayern were not down to luck. You don't get 9 goals in 9 finals by luck. It takes ability and mental strength. What Drogba had was a winner's mentality. It is what successful players must have and what losers mistake for luck.

We should take him back on loan so that he could score again in finals , don't remember him doing anything for us in the league or the group stages , he has a demon who only wakes up in do or die stages . If he actually had that winner's ability we would have never finished 6th in the league

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Droga vs Torres

Take away the goals completely and analyse what they did on the pitch. Better yet, imagine if you were a defender playing for the opposition and could choose which one to play against, which one would you pick? The one that you can stop with minimal contact or the other who will prob run you over every time?!

Torres clearly has a physical problem; he just isn't strong nor quick enough to play at this level, unfortunately.

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  On 16/12/2012 at 18:05, Tomo-91 said:

I can't find a video for it but it was similar to the one against Stoke, one on one and somehow the keeper not only saved it but caught it too.

5:45?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f23tNQFVfk

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  On 16/12/2012 at 18:21, manpe said:

5:45?

Yep that's the one

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  On 16/12/2012 at 18:26, Tomo-91 said:

Yep that's the one

That one was a bit more difficult than the second one, but it's still inexcusable how he didn't convert at least one of them.

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  On 16/12/2012 at 18:18, Backstreet09 said:

We should take him back on loan so that he could score again in finals , don't remember him doing anything for us in the league or the group stages , he has a demon who only wakes up in do or die stages . If he actually had that winner's ability we would have never finished 6th in the league

Are you saying that Torres is a better player than Drogba?

I mean you keep defending Torres while saying that Drogba's only contribution was in finals...

Sry mate, but only fool can think something like that.

I suggest you visiting www.talktorres.com instead of talkchelsea.

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  On 16/12/2012 at 18:18, Backstreet09 said:

We should take him back on loan so that he could score again in finals , don't remember him doing anything for us in the league or the group stages , he has a demon who only wakes up in do or die stages . If he actually had that winner's ability we would have never finished 6th in the league

Maybe because last season Drogba was 34 and could no longer do it every match. But even with his age, every time he stepped on the pitch, he offered for the team 100 times more than Torres has in his entire Chelsea career.

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  On 16/12/2012 at 18:18, Backstreet09 said:

We should take him back on loan so that he could score again in finals , don't remember him doing anything for us in the league or the group stages , he has a demon who only wakes up in do or die stages . If he actually had that winner's ability we would have never finished 6th in the league

Drogba was actually the one who saved our ass in the group stage by scoring two goals against Valencia in a game we had to win. The fuck did Torres do then? Scored two goals against the team that finished bottom of the group in a game we won what, 5-0? I suppose they both did equally well then.

And it's very unfair to compare Drogba of last season to Torres now because Didi was 34 years old already while Torres is supposed to be the savior of Chelsea. Just go watch our games of 09/10 and come back to tell me Drogba is a loser and a player who only scores lucky goals and I will once again tell you to fuck off.