RamiCFC9 258 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 At the end of the day tiki-taka is effective and the most succesful brand of football played nowadays.Proof is Barca= number 1 challenger for every cup they are in and no wonder why.Borussia they are just pleasure to watch but also very effective and that with limited finances. Spain-2 Euro's, 1 WC, playing tiki-taka while before that they were the sympathetic team that "somehow" never makes it to the later stages.Swansea - a team with low finances managing to secure their place in EPL with ease and proving the english "experts" wrong (at the start of last season Swansea was consideret the weakest team from the coming 3 lol). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDY 1,290 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 On the topic of Dortmund it would pain me to see Klopp go to someone like United when Fergie eventually retires. An excellent excellent coach. In my opinion, tactically he's up there with the very best at this present moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 On the topic of Dortmund it would pain me to see Klopp go to someone like United when Fergie eventually retires. An excellent excellent coach. In my opinion, tactically he's up there with the very best at this present moment.That is because he does not work for a big money club. Imagine what he could do if they were able to keep Barios, Kagawa and Sahin...Although I agree he is a great tactitian/coach, we never saw him on a big cup clash, pressure of a bad sequence, ego management, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beepu 1,714 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 RDM has been doing everything more or less right this season, hardly put a foot wrong. Maybe you can count the loss to city and atletico a wrong, but other than that i think hes doing a good job, the only thing that has got me thinking is that how Roman thinks. Now that he knows that Pep is available, would it lead him to be less lenient to RDM??? I hope not, RDM is our legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 the guy who's managed possibly the greatest team ever ahead of the guy who's managed West Brom and MK Dons. And what does that prove? I'd like to see Pep manage MK dons or Robbie manage Barcelona before I judge who is better than who.I think they are both good young managers that have A LOT to prove before they become world-class managers. I don't want Pep here until I at least we see him manage a team other than Barcelona. I am not discrediting the amazing work he did there, but just saying that Barca are a special case and the situation here at Chelsea is completely different. Pep right now would be, imo, a huge risk that we don't need taking.And for the record, I genuinely don't want the tiki-taka shit here. Look at the Celtic vs Barca game stats last night to see the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachikethas 1,154 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 if rdm leaves i only want the special one here.... its time to take the trio to next level just like happened with didi,lamps and terry.. then again rdm is doing just great.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea_4_eva 1,182 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 are we sure?http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-city-and-pep-guardiola-have-a-preliminary-1464288we all know how much abramovich loves pep but if he goes to city....hopefully he has a back-up plan. mourinho maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,459 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 are we sure?http://www.mirror.co...iminary-1464288we all know how much abramovich loves pep but if he goes to city....hopefully he has a back-up plan. mourinho maybe?Won't be a surprise if heads to City. They've already hired Txiki Begiristain, and now probably want to complete the set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5354 204 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Roman needs to get real...Hiring him does not mean that Chelsea will play football like Barcelona and win trophies like Barcelona...why can't we develop our own style? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corner 456 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Roman needs to get real...Hiring him does not mean that Chelsea will play football like Barcelona and win trophies like Barcelona...why can't we develop our own style?I think Roman is just like Pep. He gets nervous when we don't have the ball. And the solution to that is to keep possession.What Roman wants, Roman gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Won't be a surprise if heads to City. They've already hired Txiki Begiristain, and now probably want to complete the set It depends what happens in the league IMO. If City don't win, Mancini will be out, if they do win, I think he'll probably stay. The City job would naturally be more appealing for coaches as they appear willing to give coaches some time. City was hardly lights-out under Mancini for the first year and a half and still have problems. If Roman were their owner, they'd have gone through about 3 managers in that period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5354 204 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I think Roman is just like Pep. He gets nervous when we don't have the ball. And the solution to that is to keep possession.What Roman wants, Roman gets.then why did he sack scholari & ancelotti for?plenty of possession we had under ancelotti... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corner 456 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 then why did he sack scholari & ancelotti for?plenty of possession we had under ancelotti...True, but he also has an itchy trigger finger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 are we sure?http://www.mirror.co...iminary-1464288we all know how much abramovich loves pep but if he goes to city....hopefully he has a back-up plan. mourinho maybe?That's the same 'agent' who said Drogba was going to Barcelona and Terry was going to Valencia.then why did he sack scholari & ancelotti for?plenty of possession we had under ancelotti...He sacked Scolari because we were shit and he sacked Ancelotti because the football in the second half of his second season was fairly poor.Personally I like the idea of us getting Guardiola. I think he'd be given more time to try things, and that includes giving the young players a chance. Who doesn't want to see what Josh McEachran could be with Guardiola's influence on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
different level 1,056 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 As far as I'm concerned Guardiola is not a proven manager and I can't understand the love for him from Roman. So far he has only proven that he can win with already built team full of stars, the same thing that his replacement at Barca - Pito Vilanova or whatshisname can do with ease. Now I almost don't care who manages our team because that person is one bad run of matches away from the sack. If there is one I would love to see leading Chelsea that would be Jose. The special one is the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 As far as I'm concerned Guardiola is not a proven manager and I can't understand the love for him from Roman. So far he has only proven that he can win with already built team full of stars, the same thing that his replacement at Barca - Pito Vilanova or whatshisname can do with ease. Now I almost don't care who manages our team because that person is one bad run of matches away from the sack. If there is one I would love to see leading Chelsea that would be Jose. The special one is the only one.Without wanting to sound rude, you don't seem to have any idea of what Guardiola did at Barcelona. The players he offloaded, the players he bought in and also promoted from withint, the changes in terms of discipline and work ethic, the very idea of what they were supposed to do as employees of Barcelona.Honestly, if you want to know what he's actually like as a manager and how wrong you actually are I'd suggest picking up the new book on him written by Guillem Balague. It's a nice introduction to Guardiola the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5354 204 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 just because Guardiola won plenty of trophies with barcelona doens't mean he is a god-like-manager.what makes people think that he can make chelsea so formidable and get 3 points for every match? do ppl really think this is football manager?whether be it guardiola, avb, rdm and ancelotti, roman should understand that there is seriously nothing as instant/guaranteed success on football level.guaranteed success to an extent probably exists if it is done from the core or a base to start with, example developing a team of youths with great potential and drilling them the loyalty and passion for the club. only with great passion, loyalty, determination and great teamwork on the pitch, players can excel and do well. constantly changing the management does not really help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 just because Guardiola won plenty of trophies with barcelona doens't mean he is a god-like-manager.what makes people think that he can make chelsea so formidable and get 3 points for every match? do ppl really think this is football manager?whether be it guardiola, avb, rdm and ancelotti, roman should understand that there is seriously nothing as instant/guaranteed success on football level.guaranteed success to an extent probably exists if it is done from the core or a base to start with, example developing a team of youths with great potential and drilling them the loyalty and passion for the club. only with great passion, loyalty, determination and great teamwork on the pitch, players can excel and do well.constantly changing the management does not really help.There's no guarantees in football. All you can do is look at what qualities a person seems to possess and judge whether they are right for your team.When you look at what he did at Barcelona and how he moulded a team out of a collection of individuals (not all, but many) and you see the issues we have at the club, then I think he is about as good a manager as is around (and available) at the moment. He is also massively respected throughout the game because he did it both as a player and a manager. Look at the problems AVB had when it came to man-management. Guardilola can be a figurehead for the whole club and he can become that person who changes how we play football at every age-group. We shouldn't keep changing managers, but you need to find the right manager to stick with long-term and we haven't had that since Mourinho. This club is still very much based on what he instituted - we need another big manager to come in and take us on to the next stage in our development. It's all here waiting for him if he wants it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corner 456 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 just because Guardiola won plenty of trophies with barcelona doens't mean he is a god-like-manager.what makes people think that he can make chelsea so formidable and get 3 points for every match? do ppl really think this is football manager?whether be it guardiola, avb, rdm and ancelotti, roman should understand that there is seriously nothing as instant/guaranteed success on football level.guaranteed success to an extent probably exists if it is done from the core or a base to start with, example developing a team of youths with great potential and drilling them the loyalty and passion for the club. only with great passion, loyalty, determination and great teamwork on the pitch, players can excel and do well.constantly changing the management does not really help.None of us believe that if Guardiola become our manager then we would have instant success and win every single match.But if Roman wants to play possession-based football, then Pep is the man for the job. He would have plenty of young players with great technical ability and he would know exactly which players he needs to get of and which to bring in. It wouldn't bring instant success, as you say, but if any manager is going to be given time to implement his ideas at Chelsea, it's Pep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I'm not worried about the City link, we can outmuscle them if we have to, ask Eden Hazard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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