Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 After seeing that gif, the ivanovic situation is more blatant a mistake than the torres one.http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/gif-branislav-ivanovic-red-card-v-manchester-united/ Plus there was no reason for Ivanovi to foul young. I am perfectly certain young would not have scored, he was alone, the ball was on his left foot and he either would have tried to shoot as soon as he was clear in the channel and that would not have been a danger as he was at full speed and had the ball on his useless left foot or he would have stopped in order to shoot with his right. In that case there would ahve been 4 defenders to block that shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Sometimes you need these desicions to go for you to win games, it was Man U this time. I'm pretty sure we woulda won the game otherwise. Still fucking annoying, we showed great spirit today. If we can keep playing the way we are im sure will will be competing all the way to the end of the season.And the 5 fucking times before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 To be a little fair Luiz and Torres made challenges that might have, in another world, been a foul or card. That also kinda shows how bad the referee wasYeah, I don't buy the conspiracy stuff. I think it was just an incompetent ref or a ref having a horrible match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdog 2,084 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 well I guess we need to put this match behind us & run their dicks into the ground in our League Cup match. If manure needs to have help from the refs to beat us, then I can feel really good. This is how I feel after watching the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Young and Van Persie: 2 absolute cunts I wish they fail to win any competition as long as they're living.On the previous pages, you guys pretty much said everything I wanted to say, except this: WE HAVE TO STAY OPTIMISTIC because this team can offer so much, and I was so proud of the comeback. I hope RDM gives more chances to Danny, Moses, Marin and Romeu so that we have backup plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea_4_eva 1,182 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Ian McGarry @garbosjMikel claims that Clattenberg called him a 'monkey'. #CFC #mufcoh no he di'int! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hostedenis 556 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Where can I vote for Mark Clattenburg MOTM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Yeah, I don't buy the conspiracy stuff. I think it was just an incompetent ref or a ref having a horrible match.I believe match fixing exists in this league, there's not actually a way to stop it now is there, they might make you think there is but there just simply isn't.The reason why I'm starting to really think this now is because this happens all the bastard time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymalleb 14 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 long time ago it's Ovrebo, last year it was certain Howard Webb, this time Mark Clatternburg.fcuk this thing, when it's gonna stop? it's freaking kill the game. This is all caused by the divers antic in the league, Young, Bale, Suarez. But we who the one getting the consequences but when it comes to legit call we get none. fcuk it. fcuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 i'll look past the absolute disgrace the game turned out to be and analyse the game now. the horror start - united swarmed us and david luiz was again a headless chicken in a big game. pathetic decision making and was beaten 4-5 times in the first 20 mins. unquestionably our worst defender and not captain material if you look at his frustrated push on RVP later in the game. united gave us a lesson in counter attacking and off the ball movement. notice how when valencia crossed there were atleast 4 red shirts in the area and when hazard crossed at the other end there was only torres and even he didn't attack the ball. but then, i was proud of the team. brilliant stuff to claw our way back before Clattenburg took over. unrelenting pressure on united's goal and forced de gea into a number of saves before Mata's glorious freekick. this chelsea side is not just style but has the character and substance that helped us become Champions of Europe last season. I am sure now that we will win silverware this year.the team is brilliant and united's luck in the chelsea and liverpool games will even itself out over the season. no point moaning about clattenburg. We all know which was the better team yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 On a positive note though - they scored only 1 goal with 2 man advantage by an offside goal. I am now more confident playing against United even when we're trailing, provided the game isn't reffed by some incompetent biased cunt.I must also note that I love Russian commentators. They have the best streams around. The commentator was ripping Torres apart, saying he's gone to the shadows again, just before he had 2 excellent moments.. then he said "Torres must understand Russian because he heard me" He also criticized the fuck out of the refs, adding in disappointment that they ruined a great spectacle and it's best to remember the untainted first half and forget the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle 77 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Serious lol at the United supporters rejoicing that "decisions finally went there way" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 If this, horrific officiating handing a win to United on a silver platter, happened once in a blue moon... but no... it takes place week in, week out.I've supported Chelsea even before the Hasselbaink days, but I see myself becoming an Anti-united fan, which is pretty sad to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 Tbh at the time I though it was a sending off, but looking back at it, that really is a dive, young was looking for the contact by kicking his leg backwards and even that contact was very slight and not enough to take him down. His fall was unnatural as well. Dive imo:Typical.There wasn't even much contact there FFS! I agree about the poor defending HOWEVER we also have to take into consideration that this more expansive style will not only naturally make us concede more goals but also take time to strike the balance. Take into account we have played three very good attacking teams this week.Prior to this we had been pretty stingy defensively and kept a few clean sheets so i think there is definately something positive there. If we were conceding regularly against Wigan, etc then i would be more worried.We need to be patient with it but at least we know that domestically at least we are more than capable of outscoring any team.Yes but it doesn't mean that they can just neglect their defensive duties. It's ok if you wanna play them but gotta make sure they just as hard defensively as they go forward. Oscar is doing alright defensively but Mata and Hazard can still improve in this aspect. That said, it isn't down to just this new style of play we are adopting. We have seen a number of individual errors that have cost us too. Take Cole for example in the first half yesterday. His defending was very Luiz-esque in that first half! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Manchester-City-claim-ref-Mark-Clattenburg-was-gunning-for-Craig-Bellamy-article255615.htmlIn December 2009, Clattenburg took charge of a tie between Bolton Wanderers and Manchester City. City personnel alleged that at half-time, Clattenburg asked members of their bench: "How do you work with Craig Bellamy all week?" In the second half that followed, he booked Bellamy twice, once for dissent and then for diving, although replays suggested he was actually fouled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopfzeichen 78 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Serious lol at the United supporters rejoicing that "decisions finally went there way"The refs are always so mean to them, the poor guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Typical.There wasn't even much contact there FFS! Yes but it doesn't mean that they can just neglect their defensive duties. It's ok if you wanna play them but gotta make sure they just as hard defensively as they go forward. Oscar is doing alright defensively but Mata and Hazard can still improve in this aspect. That said, it isn't down to just this new style of play we are adopting. We have seen a number of individual errors that have cost us too. Take Cole for example in the first half yesterday. His defending was very Luiz-esque in that first half!I did not blame the referee for iva red card, because in real time it looked like Iva clipped young, after looking at the replay it was clear that it was very minimal and young just does his thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 I did not blame the referee for iva red card, because in real time it looked like Iva clipped young, after looking at the replay it was clear that it was very minimal and young just does his thing.Perhaps so but was it really a red card? Luiz looked like he was in pretty close proximity to cover for Ivanovic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisho 33 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 proud of the boys, at one point they look like they were gonna destroy man u! even with 9 men they still fought. proud to be a chelsea supporter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I thought Ivanovic's red card was debatable because it didn't look such a clear chance of scoring. But WHOA, it wasn't even a foul. Imho it was a dive. So actually it should have been 11 blues vs. 10 reds. The ref. robbed us so hard it's unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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