Roman Abramovich Thread

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On a related note, last week, Roman's company (forgot which one) signed a huge sponsorship deal with Vitesse (well, huge for the Eridivesie). It looks like we really want them to dominate Dutch football and get into the CL. A feeder club in the CL would provide a huge experience for our youngsters.

I've heard that two clubs with the same owner can't play in the same competition.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I've heard that two clubs with the same owner can't play in the same competition.

Roman probably wouldn't be the owner per se.. For example, if it's in his Son's name they could get away with it.

[iseah100 5,612]

Roman probably wouldn't be the owner per se.. For example, if it's in his Son's name they could get away with it.

Those sneaky, conniving Russians.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I've heard that two clubs with the same owner can't play in the same competition.

That's true. But Roman does not own Vitesse. It belongs to a close friend of his. And even the rumors about Mallorca is that it will be owned by his son, Arkadi, not Roman himself.

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The company in question is Truphone, and Roman "only" holds a 23 % stake.

http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2014/6/4/5778756/chelsea-roman-abramovichs-company-vitesse-arnhem-new-shirt-sponsor

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Well this is surprising if I think it means what it does: http://www.gelderlander.nl/algemeen/sport/vitesse-wordt-weer-verkocht-1.4398944

Can anyone Dutch tell me if this says that Vitesse owner is planning on selling the club?

There's no way we're ending our collaboration with Vitesse, IMO. I have a theory why that might be if it is true, but it will take some explaining...

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Well this is surprising if I think it means what it does: http://www.gelderlander.nl/algemeen/sport/vitesse-wordt-weer-verkocht-1.4398944

Can anyone Dutch tell me if this says that Vitesse owner is planning on selling the club?

There's no way we're ending our collaboration with Vitesse, IMO. I have a theory why that might be if it is true, but it will take some explaining...

Get explaining...

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It says that london wanne get rid of vitesse and are interrested in malaga or mallorca instead.

Vitesse is for sale for 47mil but since the club has a yearly loss of 20mil they made truphone headsponsor for the coming 3 years so it can be sold easier.

Joost de Wit , the director of the club says he knows nothing about this tough.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Get explaining...

The new sponsorship deal that Vitesse signed with Truphone, the company that is partially owned by Roman, is hugely important for the Dutch club that has lost in excess of 20m last year alone and will struggle to comply with FFP in the future without it. But the deal could also be potentially get Roman and Vitesse owner, Chigirinsky, in trouble.

The issue is that Roman and Chigirinsky are not just friends, they are also business partners. They both own large shares in a Russian company called Snegiri. This means that the sponsorship deal will be classified as a "related-party transaction" according to FFP. That in itself is not an issue unless it the value of the transaction is deemed not to be as "fair value". This is what happened with PSG and their sponsors.

Basically, UEFA will be monitoring the deals very closely and can screw Roman and Vitesse over if they want to like. So I think selling Vitesse to someone who has never been in business with Roman might just be a ploy to give Vitesse the money they need to still get into the CL whil keeping UEFA off Roman's back.

[We Hate Scouse 10,261]

The new sponsorship deal that Vitesse signed with Truphone, the company that is partially owned by Roman, is hugely important for the Dutch club that has lost in excess of 20m last year alone and will struggle to comply with FFP in the future without it. But the deal could also be potentially get Roman and Vitesse owner, Chigirinsky, in trouble.

The issue is that Roman and Chigirinsky are not just friends, they are also business partners. They both own large shares in a Russian company called Snegiri. This means that the sponsorship deal will be classified as a "related-party transaction" according to FFP. That in itself is not an issue unless it the value of the transaction is deemed not to be as "fair value". This is what happened with PSG and their sponsors.

Basically, UEFA will be monitoring the deals very closely and can screw Roman and Vitesse over if they want to like. So I think selling Vitesse to someone who has never been in business with Roman might just be a ploy to give Vitesse the money they need to still get into the CL whil keeping UEFA off Roman's back.

Seems somewhat logical. Dodgy Russian business

[Caeruleus 1,148]

We are so close to Arsenal (28>21) thanks to this man.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Yeah only 27 pages for Roman - the guys a legend... It would be interesting to see that table before he took over... I would have us level with the Spuds... We need a stellar few seasons now to overtake Le Arse...

[Pauwel90 0]

I'm doing a thesis on ownership models. It would be nice if you guys would help me out. Could give me some insight on what an owner as Abramovic means to the fans.

It only takes about five minutes.

https://jfe.qualtrics.com/form/SV_6CZc9HhL1wyqr77

[Special Juan 27,104]

SKY News this morning........

It would be prominent to freeze all assets of Roman Abramovich with what is going on in Russia and the Ukraine.

:lol:

[HD3D 1,038]

Russia's billionaires 'horrified' at sanctions threat that could push economy into recession.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2699984/Russian-billionaires-horror-sanctions-threat-theyre-terrified-Putin-speak-out.html

Has a photo of Abramovich. Do you guys think this scenario would affect Chelsea financially?

I think not. We don't seem to be as much reliant on Abramovich's money as we used to be. Look at this transfer window so far, the money we spent vs the money we earned on sales. Last window the same thing with Mata and KDB sales.

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I predict by 2020 we'll have both the biggest stadium and most trophies in London.

[Jase 43,479]

Roman has been nominated for the ALS Ice Bucket challenge by...AVB!

http://www.ojogo.pt/Internacional/Portugueses/interior.aspx?content_id=4090807&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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