Jype 6,398 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Romeu> Fellaini. Why do you guys just want to keep buying? Seriously fuck off and play FIFA. Even when we have a great spanish DM in the making you want to buy Fellaini. FFS!Romeu is certainly not better than Fellaini but he's got the potential and just needs playing time, which he probably wouldn't get enough if we bought another DM. Fellaini however, is more than just a DM and he can pretty much play anywhere on the pitch if needed, but considering the price (+25m imo, check Shogun's post) and the fact we already have good DM's in Mikel / Romeu and Fellaini would only be "needed" in a position he's not natural in I would say there's not much point in buying him other than making Hazard feel more welcome. If the plan is to strengthen the midfield it's better to buy a player who would be challenging Lampard for a spot in the starting lineup, not Mikel/Romeu. Of course there's Josh but I wouldn't be counting on him to be given his chance next season unless the manager is Guardiola, who I'm sure would appreciate his great vision and calmness on the ball.If we buy any more midfielders then Essien and/or Meireles will probably have to be sold first, otherwise it's going to be way too many players competing for those two or three spots in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakehh 1 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Played a great game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,589 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 I want him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OneMoSalah 8,887 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Him and Witsel totally dominated Gerrard and Shit cunt(Parker) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Seriously fuck off and play FIFA.That would be a great name for the sub-forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton 2,120 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Reading some Liverpool rumours, can't imagine he would move inside liverpool.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 We have enough midfielder/wingers since getting Hazard and (seemingly) Hulk. , If that's the case, for 5 spots, we have Mata, Hazard, Hulk, Lampard, Ramires, Mikel, Sturridge, Romeu, Meireles, Essien, Malouda, and Benayoun and that's without considering McEachran, De Bruyne, and Piazon. I assume the starting 5 in a 4-2-3-1 would be Mikel, Lampard, Hulk, Hazard, and Mata leaving Ramires, Sturridge, Meireles, etc...as depth. We don't need any more midfielders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 We have enough midfielder/wingers since getting Hazard and (seemingly) Hulk. , If that's the case, for 5 spots, we have Mata, Hazard, Hulk, Lampard, Ramires, Mikel, Sturridge, Romeu, Meireles, Essien, Malouda, and Benayoun and that's without considering McEachran, De Bruyne, and Piazon. I assume the starting 5 in a 4-2-3-1 would be Mikel, Lampard, Hulk, Hazard, and Mata leaving Ramires, Sturridge, Meireles, etc...as depth. We don't need any more midfielders.The only way to get a Modric type player would be to sell Meireles, Essien and Benayoun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 The only way to get a Modric type player would be to sell Meireles, Essien and BenayounAnd even then, what would that do, push Lampard to the bench? Lampard was one of our best players last season and he played in 49 matches. Maybe we only play him in 40 this season or something to keep him fresh, but when he does play, he brings a real quality to the team. EA PPI had Lampard as the 21st best player in the Premiership last season. There becomes a point when buying players loses a lot of value because they are replacing players who are already good. Replacing Kalou brings a lot of value because Kalou was a middling player for Chelsea. There's very little value in spending money to replace your better players. You have to you spend £ 35M to get £2M worth of improvement. It's just not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazyB 58 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 And even then, what would that do, push Lampard to the bench? Lampard was one of our best players last season and he played in 49 matches. Maybe we only play him in 40 this season or something to keep him fresh, but when he does play, he brings a real quality to the team. EA PPI had Lampard as the 21st best player in the Premiership last season. There becomes a point when buying players loses a lot of value because they are replacing players who are already good. Replacing Kalou brings a lot of value because Kalou was a middling player for Chelsea. There's very little value in spending money to replace your better players. You have to you spend £ 35M to get £2M worth of improvement. It's just not worth it.Isnt Lampard injured? and old? And aren't we playing a shit ton of matches next season? Plus you should be arguing the same thing but with Mikel, because that's the guy that would be losing his spot if Fellaini comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Isnt Lampard injured? and old? And aren't we playing a shit ton of matches next season? Plus you should be arguing the same thing but with Mikel, because that's the guy that would be losing his spot if Fellaini comes.I was talking about Modric who would seemingly replace Lampard. Lampard is injured for the Euros, not for next season and as I wrote in the previous post, he was effective in 49 matches last season (16 goals, 10 assists, some excellent defensive efforts). It's not like he can only play 15 matches a season or anything. We have enough depth and talent in midfield as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskoviolente 425 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Turning from the Portugal B Team into the Belgium A Team. Love it.But I think we are better off giving Oriol some more game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 fellaini?? well if we stick to 433 (witch in my mind helps most of team espescially ramires, though not sure torres) our midfield of mata, mikel, lamps, essien, mierles, romeu seems pretty full.....atm, no need for fellaini.however he would be the ultimate utility man who would play all three midfield roles when needed. so essien would prob have to go. this only way i see this playing out if we do indeed sign him. if we then sold mierles and promoted josh then that would be best midfield we could have asked for without breakin bank by signing modric for 40mil or watever while promoting youth. 6 man midfield long ass season especialy 7cups we're in everyone would play.would honestly not mind fellaini tbh, hopefully this scenario plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGuerreiro 252 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 fellaini?? well if we stick to 433 (witch in my mind helps most of team espescially ramires, though not sure torres) our midfield ofmata, mikel, lamps, essien, mierles, romeu seems pretty full.....atm, no need for fellaini.however he would be the ultimate utility man who would play all three midfield roles when needed. so essien would prob have to go. this only way i see this playing out if we do indeed sign him. if we then sold mierles and promoted josh then that would be best midfield we could have asked for without breakin bank by signing modric for 40mil or watever while promoting youth.6 man midfield long ass season especialy 7cups we're in everyone would play.would honestly not mind fellaini tbh, hopefully this scenario plays out.Where do we stick Hazard, Mata and Hulk (giving that he signs) in a 4-3-3 system? 4-2-3-1 is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Where do we stick Hazard, Mata and Hulk (giving that he signs) in a 4-3-3 system? 4-2-3-1 is the way to go.Mata cam and hazard and hulk on wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGuerreiro 252 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Mata cam and hazard and hulk on wings.If Mata is a CAM then it is a 4-2-3-1. In 4-3-3 there are two CM's (for instance: Lampard and Ramires). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 We should sell Essien and/or Malouda and buy Fellaini. We lost a lot of height and power with Drogba and if possible we should replace that with Fellaini. Dude was winning headers easily against the entire England team. He's shown, similar to Drogba that he single-handedly can be a plan B if we sometimes have to resort to long-ball tactics. Without Drogba we don't have anyone else that can do that. Torres definitely can't and Lukaku probably won't have much impact on the first team next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Freak 456 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 We should sell Essien and/or Malouda and buy Fellaini. We lost a lot of height and power with Drogba and if possible we should replace that with Fellaini. Dude was winning headers easily against the entire England team. He's shown, similar to Drogba that he single-handedly can be a plan B if we sometimes have to resort to long-ball tactics. Without Drogba we don't have anyone else that can do that. Torres definitely can't and Lukaku probably won't have much impact on the first team next year.Sure, Fellaini would be awesome at winning headers...but he's not worth 25 million...and I doubt Moyes will sell his best midfielder for anything less than that.We have enough midfielders as it is. Unless Meireles + Essien + Malouda + Benayoun are all sold in this window, I don't see Chelsea buying an expensive midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Sure, Fellaini would be awesome at winning headers...but he's not worth 25 million...and I doubt Moyes will sell his best midfielder for anything less than that.We have enough midfielders as it is. Unless Meireles + Essien + Malouda + Benayoun are all sold in this window, I don't see Chelsea buying an expensive midfielder.Fellaini is way better than all of those you listed. I would keep Meireles, but definitely sell the rest. Plus Benayoun isn't a CM, he isn't competing for the same positions as Essien and Meireles.Still, no rush on Fellaini. We can make the final judgment call on our midfield options during preseason. Lamps and Mikel first choice with Romeu backing up Mikel, which is fine imo. Lamps back-up at this moment is between Essien and Meireles. Both can do a decent enough job if they play on top of their game. But we just don't know how often they can do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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