Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[Stingray 9,441]

Oh i think that Roman and Gazprom (owner of Zenith) are already in talks for witsel and/or Hulk for this summer window.

It will depend on who will be our next manager. If Mou, i know that he is the biggest fan of witsel. He wanted him to play for real this summer before he left benfica for Zenith.

I try not to be too biased, saying that he a better version of khedira with regista's assets. A mix between Khedira and Xabi alonso, he can do wonders.

In fact he gives 100% like Rambo with endless stamina, but he can use his brain and he a real good passer, he was AM when 20 and played also like a winger, just like KDB right now. But Wilmots (and before for Benfica) he was tried as numb 6, the only holder DM rôle, and there he turned to be world class.

I think that he can turn as good as yaya touré ASAP but with better defensive assets.

@STINGRAY Plz Correct me if i'm wrong? xD

@HUTCHO Plz correct my spelling

He is a tank. Period. He is the Hazard of dm's - only more consistent (he is really, really consistent). I love him. Defense, tracking, power, aggression, passing, vision and even a drible suited or a winger.

[NiclasCFC 2,582]

Sign Jagielka, Sign Jagielka, Sign Jagielka, Sign Jagielka, Sign Jagielka, Sign Jagielka, Sign Jagielka, SIGN JAGIELKA!!!

[Special Juan 28,187]

No, sign Fellaini.

[Backstreet09 499]

Nope, Sign Suarez.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Most reasonable would be something like

Schurle (20mio), Matic (18mio), Ogbonna (15mio), Gundogan (20mio plus Marin), Lewandowski (20mio plus Kdb loan)

Torres (10), Mikel (17mio), Malouda, Benayoun (3mio)

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90mio out, 30mio in. 60mio spend. 5 plyers. With that we would basicaly cover every position but LB for next 8 years. Lot of players and will never happen, but certainly better than Falcao or Cavani for 50 or Moutinho for 30mio alone.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Matic has a 45m buyout clause..........

[Beepu 1,714]

Matic has a 45m buyout clause..........

is this the same matic that we let go as part of the Luiz transfer?

[Mufassir08 2,400]

is this the same matic that we let go as part of the Luiz transfer?

Yeah!

[Rmpr 8,977]

Most reasonable would be something like

Schurle (20mio), Matic (18mio), Ogbonna (15mio), Gundogan (20mio plus Marin), Lewandowski (20mio plus Kdb loan)

Torres (10), Mikel (17mio), Malouda, Benayoun (3mio)

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90mio out, 30mio in. 60mio spend. 5 plyers. With that we would basicaly cover every position but LB for next 8 years. Lot of players and will never happen, but certainly better than Falcao or Cavani for 50 or Moutinho for 30mio alone.

1. Matic is not good enough.

2. Ogbonna in real life is not like in FIFA. He is not that young and will never reach video-game status.

3. Gundogan is overrated, but I wouldnt mind him here.

4. We need KDB. Also, Lewandowski is not better than above-average, give me Lukaku instead.

5. No one will pay 17mi for Mikel.

6. Benayoon is out of contract, right?

7. My simulation gets us much better players and we spend "only" 15mi more (75 against 60). Wages we would get even, because some very expensive players would go...

[BowtiesAreCool 16]

Goalkeeper - Keep Sam Walker at the club to replace Turnbull(shit) and Hilario(us).

Defenders - Don't think we really need any more CB's as we have Terry, Luiz, Cahill, Ivanovic and also Ake if really needed. We're set for RB with Azpilicueta and Ivanovic, we could also recall Kane if needed. He's played well for Blackburn. LB's are Cole and Bertrand, so we're set there.

Midfielders - If we decide to keep Lampard, we'll also have the likes of Romeu, Mikel, Ramires and Oscar. I think we should go for someone like Sigurdsson, he can play as a midfielder of even a winger, so we'll have Mata, Hazard, Moses, Marin/Schurrle (whichever one we keep, or both?) and Sigurdsson as our wingers.

Strikers - With the signing of Schurrle, we'd have not only a winger, but a player who could play as striker if Ba and Torres are injured.

[didierforever 7,349]

out - torres(10), malouda (free), benayoun (free), marin(3), essien(5), ferreira (1m), lampard (free), kakuta(2m), hilario (dont kid me).

price - about 20-21m. wages - 700k/week = about 35m/year

in (compared to our squad right now) - lukaku,kdb,josh,bruma (all loanees), PREFERABLY VIDAL or moutinho (25m), SCHURRLE(20).

fees- 45m. wages- 200k/week= about 10m/year.

also JOSE MOURINHO.

in short not much losses would be incurred even by FFP regulations.

so the squad would look something like this (supposing we play 4-2-3-1)

strikers - ba, lukaku(h).

behind the srtiker - mata,hazard,kdb,moses(h),oscar , SCHURRLE.

pivot - rambo,mikel, romeu,josh(h), VIDAL

defenders - JT(h),luiz,cahill(h), bruma(h), iva, azpi, cole(h), bert(h).

GK- CECH, turnbull(h), blackman(h).

satisfies the homegrown players quota, plus gives us 2 player ATLEAST for every position.

its hardly a team to challenge for PL,CL but i dont think we can make a team of that stature without splashing abother 100mil in transfer market.

get a top 4 finish, win CoC/ FA cup.

most importantly let JOSE and this pool of young players be together for 2-3 years. then we ll see magic.

[Rmpr 8,977]

@didierforever, great simulation!

However, Vidal is expensive as hell and I dont see him wanting to leave Juve atm. I would go with Moutinho!

I would also not put my chips on Mikel. I would sell him for around 10mi and put anothe 5mi to buy Capoue or someone similar.

CB is also a worry with Terry not being Terry anymore but still making 180k/week. I get that we need to wait for him to retire, but we dont have a top CB anymore. So someone around 15mi (which is not that cheap for a defender) would be awesome!

[Pizy 18,985]

Ideal summer:

IN- Lewandowski, Fellaini, Schurrle, and a CB

OUT- Torres, Malouda, Marin, Essien

RECALL- Lukaku, KdB

[SinineUltra 1,170]

The team need some height and physical presence in the middle of the park, we can't have manlets all over the place. One of the reason ManCity are quite successful these days and grinding out results is that they have a physical side. Even the likes of Tevez, Agüero, Milner are built like trucks. We must remind ourselves we play in Premier League not in La Liga, where flare overcomes presence.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

1. Matic is not good enough.

2. Ogbonna in real life is not like in FIFA. He is not that young and will never reach video-game status.

3. Gundogan is overrated, but I wouldnt mind him here.

4. We need KDB. Also, Lewandowski is not better than above-average, give me Lukaku instead.

5. No one will pay 17mi for Mikel.

6. Benayoon is out of contract, right?

7. My simulation gets us much better players and we spend "only" 15mi more (75 against 60). Wages we would get even, because some very expensive players would go...

Lol when we buy Cavani for 35mio and Moutinho for 20 I will drive you all the way from brasil to SB to watch them play.

Just the two of them will cost around 80mio. Realise this is 2013 and football prices are inflated like hell.

1.) Matic is not finished product but he would be better than Mikel.

2.) Ok he is not that brilliant but 15mio is not too much. Howedes/Papadopoulos/... will cost 20mio plus.

3, 4.) You seriously dislike Dortmund dont you? Lewandowski and Gundogan are superb players. Arguably better than any brasilian player atm bar Thiago Silva.

5.) Offer him to Anzhi and see the magic.

6.) I forgot that

7.) Your simulation has better players indeed, but that wont be cheaper than 100mio+

[Korea 734]

Lol when we buy Cavani for 35mio and Moutinho for 20 I will drive you all the way from brasil to SB to watch them play.

Just the two of them will cost around 80mio. Realise this is 2013 and football prices are inflated like hell.

1.) Matic is not finished product but he would be better than Mikel.

2.) Ok he is not that brilliant but 15mio is not too much. Howedes/Papadopoulos/... will cost 20mio plus.

3, 4.) You seriously dislike Dortmund dont you? Lewandowski and Gundogan are superb players. Arguably better than any brasilian player atm bar Thiago Silva.

5.) Offer him to Anzhi and see the magic.

6.) I forgot that

7.) Your simulation has better players indeed, but that wont be cheaper than 100mio+

I can def. see cavani cost more than falcao now.

Also, Brazil second best player is Marcelo.... He's pretty darn good. However, I would welcome the 2 bvb players

[BlueLyon 9,359]

I can def. see cavani cost more than falcao now.

Also, Brazil second best player is Marcelo.... He's pretty darn good. However, I would welcome the 2 bvb players

FOrgot about Marcelo. Yes he was brilliant so far, but had problems with injuries this season.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Lol when we buy Cavani for 35mio and Moutinho for 20 I will drive you all the way from brasil to SB to watch them play.

Just the two of them will cost around 80mio. Realise this is 2013 and football prices are inflated like hell.

1.) Matic is not finished product but he would be better than Mikel.

2.) Ok he is not that brilliant but 15mio is not too much. Howedes/Papadopoulos/... will cost 20mio plus.

3, 4.) You seriously dislike Dortmund dont you? Lewandowski and Gundogan are superb players. Arguably better than any brasilian player atm bar Thiago Silva.

5.) Offer him to Anzhi and see the magic.

6.) I forgot that

7.) Your simulation has better players indeed, but that wont be cheaper than 100mio+

I bet you Cavani will go for around what Aguero did and that is 35-40mi. Moutinho is a 20mi player, he almsot went to Spurs for 23mi euros last summer...

Also, what does Brazilian players have to do with anything? We are talking about Chelsea. Gundogan is better than any Serbian player, but that doesnt mean anything!

P.S: I love Dortmund, people just overrate their players because of the phase and form they currently are. Remember how brilliant Cahill and Luiz were to the world last season? How many people want to buy them fro 30mi now?

[didierforever 7,349]

@didierforever, great simulation!

However, Vidal is expensive as hell and I dont see him wanting to leave Juve atm. I would go with Moutinho!

I would also not put my chips on Mikel. I would sell him for around 10mi and put anothe 5mi to buy Capoue or someone similar.

CB is also a worry with Terry not being Terry anymore but still making 180k/week. I get that we need to wait for him to retire, but we dont have a top CB anymore. So someone around 15mi (which is not that cheap for a defender) would be awesome!

agreed about vidal. very improbable that he ll end up waering blue. but the only reason i for coutinho being 2nd choice is because of porto. if he is worth 20-25 mil, u just know that porto will ask for something like 40-45mil which will stretch into a never-ending transfer saga and we ll end up playing another season with mikel as our 1st choice cdm.

selling off mikel would not be right, i feel. if u look at the squad that i wrote, there would be 10 players out of a possible 13 players who would have played just 2 or less seasons in epl (if u take out the defenders and the GKs) which is very very risky i feel.

personally even i feel we need a world class CB in our defense. probably some1 like SUBOTIC. i anyways have a hunch that we ll be selling luiz to barca (or it would be more like barca snatching luiz from us) with all the problems they have had in their defence this season and luiz continously being on their radar.

[Rmpr 8,977]

agreed about vidal. very improbable that he ll end up waering blue. but the only reason i for coutinho being 2nd choice is because of porto. if he is worth 20-25 mil, u just know that porto will ask for something like 40-45mil which will stretch into a never-ending transfer saga and we ll end up playing another season with mikel as our 1st choice cdm.

selling off mikel would not be right, i feel. if u look at the squad that i wrote, there would be 10 players out of a possible 13 players who would have played just 2 or less seasons in epl (if u take out the defenders and the GKs) which is very very risky i feel.

personally even i feel we need a world class CB in our defense. probably some1 like SUBOTIC. i anyways have a hunch that we ll be selling luiz to barca (or it would be more like barca snatching luiz from us) with all the problems they have had in their defence this season and luiz continously being on their radar.

But Porto already accepted to sell him last summer for 23mi euro to Spurs, the problem was on his wage. I honestly believe he will cost something around what Schurrle is.

Maybe, but I would better cash in on him and go with Ake or Chabolah and a new DM. My opinion though.

Luiz and Subotic would be killer, he is one of the best CBs in the world and he is kind of a sheriff. I dont think we need to get rid of anyone, just add another CB. Terry basically doesnt count anymore...