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Your assuming they will pay that fee or more...

Last summer, Blanc even said PSG never offered Mata, but they did for Ozil. What makes you think PSG will all of a sudden offer that much?

We have a chance to raise funds for the future and balance our squad, yet we shouldnt take it cause it helps United? Its one thing if it was your money, but Roman probably would like to get some ROI once in a while..

The point wasn't how much we will get for Mata if we were to sell him to PSG (though logically it would be in the range of 30mil). The point was - why should PSG sell him to Utd? He would stay there for 2-3 years, he will be 28-29 and still a good player but certainly not someone to spearhead Utd out of this crisis if they haven't already climbed out of it already. If something like this were to happen we ought to -in a sense- be thinking short term, we can't predict what will happen in years to come.

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One should ask how stupid can you be to turn a player who was 1st/2nd best playemaker in the world, one of best Pl players of past two years and club best player in 2 years into bench warmer in just couple months.

Fuck it if he doesnt fit perfectly to Mourinho style. He is #10 and if he was given the chance, he would take it. Mata should be given 5 games in row in his position and then we would see if he is good or not. Back in september when things werent that fucked up. But Jose is stuborn and thinks only of team instant success.

Good example is Rooney who was nearly out last year from united, but proved to be team best player. Mata would probably do the same if he actualy got regular playtime as #10.

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but most of those players are way better suited for ManUtd than Mata is. If they decide for Mata over them, then good for us twice, not only we'll get a lot of money for him, but ManUtd won't even improve as they could going for really fast players, that play their best in the wing - where ManUtd have been building their system for many years now. Mata is technically better than those guys imo, but way less fitting to ManUtd system, so if selling Mata to them will prevent them from getting Reus, Draxler or di María, it'd only give me more reasons to ship Mata there. And that's coming from someone that isn't that comfortable selling them any players...

55 assists and 33 goals in the last 2 years while playing in the PL itself. dont know how you can say that they are better for united than mata is. united under saf were playing thru wings, what moyes wants to do is still unknown.

all your post is on the assumption that mata is not suited for united more than these "fast players" and i disagree. more than wing players, united right now need some1 who can give them control of the match and the ball. they got beat at it by hull, norwich and swansea (with all due respect).

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madness. our board is just deluded as Mourinho is on this topic. selling to a rival a top plyer. unbelivable. would rather lose 5-10 m than feeding an opponent ffs. thanks to Mourinho for destryoing Mata at first and then strengthening an opponent. thanks for it.

@We Hate Scouse yeah "overreacting", surely. maybe you are "underreacting" how about this? not our best player? the polls of the last 2 !!! years say something different. and the stats too. maybe Hazard is better than Mata, but tahts it. beside Hazard, Mata is our best player in this squad and there isnt even room for discussion for it (if we talk about attacking players)

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One is that you could use Rami on the wing. The second is to use the 433. We're talking about suffering TWO injuries to Willian, Hazard, Oscar and Schurrle. Realistically if that happens then we're in trouble whether we have Mata or not. I'd still be inclined not to use Mata if that happened though and maintain the fast-paced pressing game by using Ramires who has the athleticism required.

Ramires is an option on the RW but I would rather us not go there. We know how literally ineffective he can be out wide and won't take long before we all go bitching about it, again. As for the other 4, yes if one gets injured then we can play 4-3-3 to compensate but there will be only 3 AMs in 2 position and we can't overplay 1 or the other, can we? There's gonna be an issue in managing them to make they are not flogged to death and with just 3, there's a higher risk for the next one to get injured, hypothetically. Obviously, this won't be an issue if we get KOed early from the cup competitions but if not, then yeah..

Good post by the way. It's a shitty transfer all round because we are looking to sell a fantastically talented player, but if a fantastically talented player doesn't fit the style of football you're playing then what real use is he?

Was prepared for the day we sell him but certainly not right now and certainly NOT to Man United, a PL rival, of all teams! :doh:

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The point wasn't how much we will get for Mata if we were to sell him to PSG (though logically it would be in the range of 30mil). The point was - why should PSG sell him to Utd? He would stay there for 2-3 years, he will be 28-29 and still a good player but certainly not someone to spearhead Utd out of this crisis if they haven't already climbed out of it already. If something like this were to happen we ought to -in a sense- be thinking short term, we can't predict what will happen in years to come.

We also cant assume that Mata would make them rise. Its one thing if Mata was an uber CM, than I would agree. However, like Chelsea, mata doesnt really fit Moyes and United under their current scheme and players.

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Diego Costa release clause, come on guys lets do this. Just pay it then offer him loads in wages like I said, since Mata is leaving we would essentially be getting Costa for nothing and pay him £50k per week for the rest of the season(if we offer him around £100-£150k)

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