Romelu Lukaku

[Tomo 21,733]

13 hours ago, Clockwork said:

What does it say about Serie A where Immobile is one of the most prolific scorer year in year out, but only can score 3 goals in Bundesliga.

people say Lukaku has improved all he did was go to a garbage league.

 

That game can be played in all angles, what does it say about La Liga when CR7's best goal scoring season in Italy is still behind his six best scoring season's his Spain?

What does it say about The PL that Salah's best tally in Italy is still four behind his worst tally at Liverpool?

I can't believe as someone who doesn't actually want him that I've been resorted to defend him but that is such a selective take.

Edited August 8, 2021 by Tomo

[bigbluewillie 1,859]

there's an article posted by clockwork I think, I can't find it unfortunately.

But it's completely changed my opinion of Lukaku, now I really look forward to having him here.

[Strike 7,217]

Makes him the footballer with the highest cumulative transfer fee paid for in his career - £293 million

£18m to Chelsea. £28m to Everton. £76m to Man United. £74m to Inter. £97m to Chelsea. 

Neymar is second highest at £246m and Ronaldo third at £191m.

[Nero 1,838]

 

[Jype 6,398]

14 minutes ago, Patrick Bamford said:

 

That's all the endorsement I'l need, Drogba knows a quality player when he sees one. 😎

[laura90 556]

10 hours ago, Stats said:

So please answer what I stated above. He already has proven himself in the EPL. What do you have to say about his goalscoring record in the Premier League?

May I? It's simple really. He will get you around 20 PL goals ( only one season above 20) but he will get you nowhere with them. You will stay where you are.

If you are midtable club, you will stay there. WBA stayed there. Everton was in Europa League with him for the first season, but failed to return there with him for  the next two seasons. They stayed where they were. Midtable.

He went to Man UTD. Lots of goals from Lukaku. They where the  second. The next season. Lots of goals from Lukaku. They finished sixth.

He went to Inter. Excelled in pensioners, pardon, Italian league, but did he improve them in the Champions League?

Lukaku is a goalscorer. He has the talent to find that net  that better attackers than him don't have. He has that. Hence the goals. But problem is, he lacks almost every other aspect of the game. His first touch, his ball control, vision, inteligence. His overall play is worse compared to elite, world class strikers like Benzema, Lewandowski, Aguero to name a few . Elite strikers give you goals, but they also improve team play overall. They don't go missing against big teams. They often show their class right when their team is struggling. They are true talismans and they are not for sale for their teams.

Lukaku, for all his  goals is not on that level. But we paid for him as he was. We gave him wages, like he was. It's not my money, but it will make him nailed on starter for the next five years, regardless of his performances.

Every club he went to didn't mind selling  him. You may argue Everton and Inter needed money, but Man Utd didn't, yet, they couldn't wait to get rid of him. Despite plenty of goals he scored for them.

With elite striker you only gain, With Lukaku, you gain some, you lose some. We will be getting goals against lower sides. And points. But we will struggle with him against big teams and in CL. IF he starts every game, we are at the risk of having one attacker less and ten men against top teams. If he goes missing as he often does. 1 goal in 20 games against top six in his last two PL seasons..

Chelsea fc does it's thing, signs second choice players but pays for them as they are the first choice. Panic buy at the best. Almost feels like act of desperation. In the long run it will be short term gain, long term pain.

Where he will get us.? Right here where we are. In the League. Last 16 in CL. If we face easier teams in the group stage. 

As I said before, happy to be proven wrong. Welcome, Romelu Lukaku!

 

 

 

Edited August 8, 2021 by laura90

[Pizy 18,368]

Thankfully we don’t really need him to do anything outside of his strengths. Put away the chances we create, stretch defenses by running in behind, hold the ball up and bring others into play like he did well at Inter. Simple as that. 

Unlike his time at United or Everton we have loads of players who can handle the creativity and buildup. Tuchel won’t be asking him to be Messi or Harry Kane or one of these strikers who drops deep and becomes a playmaker spraying the ball around.

The club and TT clearly wanted a classic #9 and that’s what Rom is. Let’s hope it pays off.

[Clockwork 1,794]

4 hours ago, Tomo said:

That game can be played in all angles, what does it say about La Liga when CR7's best goal scoring season in Italy is still behind his six best scoring season's his Spain?

What does it say about The PL that Salah's best tally in Italy is still four behind his worst tally at Liverpool?

I can't believe as someone who doesn't actually want him that I've been resorted to defend him but that is such a selective take.

This can be easily explained.
 

Ronaldo is past his prime and Juventus has nowhere near the creative players that Madrid have and don’t create as many chances. Look at Ronaldo performances in the CL and his goal record, significantly down also. His age and supporting cast can explain this.

Salah went to a better team, and played with better supporting cast. His goal scoring output is also consistently better in CL. 
 

Immobile went to a better team in Dortmund, but couldn’t make it there. Good players get better around better players, while bad players look worse. Not only at Dortmund but also with the national team.
 

Italy always has players like Immobile and Di Natale who put insane numbers but outside of the retirement league they look out of their range.

[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

44 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

Salah went to a better team, and played with better supporting cast. His goal scoring output is also consistently better in CL. 
 

So are we not better than inter? So surely what u have just said lukaku should thrive no? Since joining inter the lad has bagged 64 goals SIXTY FOUR!!!!

Edited August 8, 2021 by BluesMadLad

[laura90 556]

3 hours ago, Pizy said:

Thankfully we don’t really need him to do anything outside of his strengths. Put away the chances we create, stretch defenses by running in behind, hold the ball up and bring others into play like he did well at Inter. Simple as that. 

Unlike his time at United or Everton we have loads of players who can handle the creativity and buildup. Tuchel won’t be asking him to be Messi or Harry Kane or one of these strikers who drops deep and becomes a playmaker spraying the ball around.

The club and TT clearly wanted a classic #9 and that’s what Rom is. Let’s hope it pays off.

Lukaku wasn't Tuchel's first choice. He openly said after Tottenham game that some players didn't want to come. If the player he wanted didn't want to come does that make Lukaku his first choice? Lukaku was his best choice for this season. To compete. That's why he is here. But not his first choice.

I also wanted Haaland at the early stage, but it became clear to me early on that it was not happening. My own preference was to skip on the striker this year and to get the other targets since we had really good team and good coach and we needed just slightly improvement from our attacking players to grab that fourth spot where our only competition is Liecester. And try again the next year.

We really now have only Broja and Soonsup Bell to look up to and hope they miraculously develop into great strikers very soon. In my opinion. 

 

Edited August 8, 2021 by laura90

[Clockwork 1,794]

7 hours ago, Stats said:

So please answer what I stated above. He already has proven himself in the EPL. What do you have to say about his goalscoring record in the Premier League?

Lukaku is a runner, give him space to run into and on the counter he is pretty good. That is his game it fits an Everton or WBA. Or a reactive manager. 
 

But at Chelsea, opposition gives us much more respect they play deeper and the spaces get tighter. He would have to play to his weaknesses, where has to make combo passes and make intelligent runs with bodies everywhere. 
 

Anyway I hope I am wrong. I will root for him to succeed.

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37 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

Lukaku is a runner, give him space to run into and on the counter he is pretty good. That is his game it fits an Everton or WBA. Or a reactive manager. 
 

But at Chelsea, opposition gives us much more respect they play deeper and the spaces get tighter. He would have to play to his weaknesses, where has to make combo passes and make intelligent runs with bodies everywhere. 
 

Anyway I hope I am wrong. I will root for him to succeed.

That's where my doubt lays too, he needs space, and that's something you barely get at as Chelsea striker.

[Stats 7,054]

40 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

Lukaku is a runner, give him space to run into and on the counter he is pretty good. That is his game it fits an Everton or WBA. Or a reactive manager. 
 

But at Chelsea, opposition gives us much more respect they play deeper and the spaces get tighter. He would have to play to his weaknesses, where has to make combo passes and make intelligent runs with bodies everywhere. 
 

Anyway I hope I am wrong. I will root for him to succeed.

WBA are a relegation competing team, who most times don't even have the ball. That is a phenomenal achievement. Also when he plays for Belgium, they are up against teams that sit deep. He scores for Belgium also. The thing is against Italy, he missed chances but he was a danger, just could not convert. The Italian league is notorious for teams playing defensive. He easily thrived in that league. I mean last season, do you really think Lukaku would not have scored 20 goals plus for us with all the chances we created last season?

[Pizy 18,368]

Watching highlights of his time at Man United and he is still very much effective in the box surrounded by defenders. He’s not just a Jamie Vardy type who almost requires open space to sprint into. He’s very strong in the air and at moving defenders with muscle.

If we know we’re going to play an extremely deep defense those are hopefully the matches where Ziyech starts to whip the ball in over and over for Rom and Havertz.

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

1 hour ago, Clockwork said:

Lukaku is a runner, give him space to run into and on the counter he is pretty good. That is his game it fits an Everton or WBA. Or a reactive manager. 
 

But at Chelsea, opposition gives us much more respect they play deeper and the spaces get tighter. He would have to play to his weaknesses, where has to make combo passes and make intelligent runs with bodies everywhere. 
 

Anyway I hope I am wrong. I will root for him to succeed.

And teams in Italy dont play like that against Inter Milan? Or other national teams against Belgium? No? 

I mean we created a lot of chances under Tuchel IIRC just didn’t convert them so I think he will be fine. Plus you’ve got him occupying central defenders which also means players like Havertz or Werner don’t have to.

Edited August 8, 2021 by OneMoSalah

[milka 3,346]

Psg will anounce Messi    earlier than Chelsea will anounce  Lukaku .

[ZAPHOD2319 4,477]

24 minutes ago, milka said:

Psg will anounce Messi    earlier than Chelsea will anounce  Lukaku .

This is true, we always take forever announcing a player. All the wheels are in motion and Inter are already spending the money.

[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

19 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

This is true, we always take forever announcing a player. All the wheels are in motion and Inter are already spending the money.

Is big rom even in England yet?