Romelu Lukaku

[It's too big 625]

Lukaku is a top class striker, no point pretending he isn't because people are butthurt over him potentially signing for Utd. Whether he will or can improve, we will see. I see no reason why he can't improve around other world class players, whether here or at Utd. 

[Bernard N Y Burgesson 139]

24 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Romelu Lukaku is not world class.

Talking as if Morata or belotti or the other targets we are linked to are world class. If you want world class Lewandowski is, Suarez Muller they are world class not belotti or morata or lukaku.

Lukaku is even closer to being world class than the others because he shows it both at club and international levels. What has Morata show at spain or Belotti shown at Italy. They are not even number one at their natinal teams.

[Polo7 3,496]

3 minutes ago, Bernard N Y Burgesson said:

Talking as if Morata or belotti or the other targets we are linked to are world class. If you want world class Lewandowski is, Suarez Muller they are world class not belotti or morata or lukaku.

Lukaku is even closer to being world class than the others because he shows it both at club and international levels. What has Morata show at spain or Belotti shown at Italy. They are not even number one at their natinal teams.

Ok this is fucking laughable. What exactly has Lukaku shown at International level? Also Belotti's all round play is head and shoulders above Lukakus. Cant comment on Morata, havent seen enough of him. 

[Special Juan 28,141]

29 minutes ago, Bernard N Y Burgesson said:

Talking as if Morata or belotti or the other targets we are linked to are world class. If you want world class Lewandowski is, Suarez Muller they are world class not belotti or morata or lukaku.

Lukaku is even closer to being world class than the others because he shows it both at club and international levels. What has Morata show at spain or Belotti shown at Italy. They are not even number one at their natinal teams.

Never implied Belotti or Morata are, not sure where your digging that up from. As for Lukaku, he's miles from world class, he's very good but has a long way to go to even get near the names you mentioned.

Lukaku is at this moment in time average at International level.

[Special Juan 28,141]

39 minutes ago, It's too big said:

Lukaku is a top class striker, no point pretending he isn't because people are butthurt over him potentially signing for Utd. Whether he will or can improve, we will see. I see no reason why he can't improve around other world class players, whether here or at Utd. 

He's a quality striker, he is not world class, if you are putting him in the same bracket as Suarez, Lewandowski, Benzema then I suggest you go watch full games of everyone I mentioned.

[Bernard N Y Burgesson 139]

2 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Never implied Belotti or Morata are, not sure where your digging that up from. As for Lukaku, he's miles from world class, he's very good but has a long way to go to even get near the names you mentioned.

Lukaku is at this moment in time average at International level, so much so he's struggling against Benteke.

Really against benteke really. that not correct

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

1 hour ago, the wes said:

Everton are waiting on Manchester United to meet their total demands over the sale of Romelu Lukaku, which could amount to £90m, according to Sky sources.

Maybe I have not understood, but have not Everton and Utd agreed a 75m fee already. Why do they have to agree a 90m fee now?

[Georgy 439]

9 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Maybe I have not understood, but have not Everton and Utd agreed a 75m fee already. Why do they have to agree a 90m fee now?

It's 75 + 15 addons + Rooney. 

 

 

[the wes 7,212]

10 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Maybe I have not understood, but have not Everton and Utd agreed a 75m fee already. Why do they have to agree a 90m fee now?

Sky sources reported yesterday the fee was agreed but half hour later a source from Everton said the fee wasn't agreed rumours says Everton leaked the story cause they want a bidding war with Chelsea and utd smart move from Everton 

[Barbara 15,149]

Lukaku is a top class striker, no point pretending he isn't because people are butthurt over him potentially signing for Utd. Whether he will or can improve, we will see. I see no reason why he can't improve around other world class players, whether here or at Utd. 

I've been saying (and praying) that I don't want him here for months, no butt hurt comments.
He does not play well against good defenses. His technique is lacking, he's selfish at times, stupid at others. Is he a poacher? Of course he is. Will he continue to score? Yes, although not as much IMO.
He is the kind of striker Conte seems to like, I'll give him that, but we can do better.
I said a couple of weeks ago when it looked like he was going to come here that we were going to have Torres 2.0 for double the (unworthy) price tag and become laughing stock, so on this regard I'm happy United will continue to be the laughs, but I'm concerned about where it leaves our relationship with Conte if he really wants him and is pissed we didn't get.

I wasn't wrong about Mata, de Bruyne, Cech and others we let go. They had exactly the seasons I predicted them to have in our rivals. I could be wrong about Lukaku, but I am more certain about him than all the others... Blessing in disguise especially because of the ridiculous fee. It doesn't mean I'm not worried about our future with Conte.

[Atholy 1,293]

1 hour ago, Polo7 said:

Ok this is fucking laughable. What exactly has Lukaku shown at International level? Also Belotti's all round play is head and shoulders above Lukakus. Cant comment on Morata, havent seen enough of him. 

He's 10 goals away from becoming the all time TOP scorer in the history of Belgian National team (and this at the age of 23...)

But if you only rate him on how many World Cup/European Cup finals goals... He's done absolutely nothing at all!!

[Rekin 835]

2 hours ago, Inko said:

We must look deeper
Bernardo Silva is 50 +25 bonus for a player who plays in a weaker championship, nothing says he will also be performing in PL
Bernardo Silva Monaco: 22 years 11 goals 10 assists 7.22 rating
Eden Hazard Lille: 21 years 20 goals 16 passes 7.80 rating

Romelu Lukaku is a full-fledged striker, who marks both right and left as well as the head.

He is accustomed to PL

He is considered a trained player in England

Even if he does not improve he should score at least 20 goals and if he progresses still he will fight for the top scorer every year

All this is taken into account in its price.

Morata, Belotti are great strikers but they have never played in PL

A Morata 170 games 58 goals 23 assists 6.85 rating
A. Belotti 111 games 45 goals 12 assists 6.99 rating
R Lukaku 204 games 96 goals 30 assists 7.11 rating

Maybe Lukaku was the least risky bet.

Sorry for my bad english but it's only 3 months I'm learning.

I see where you are coming from, but I disagree with you. 
While I do enjoy the WhoScored ratings, they are just numbers that do not take everything into consideration. 

B.Silva was rarely the finisher, nor the main star in Monaco. Hazard was the superstar of Lille who took penalties and was put in goalscoring positions. Silva excels in retaining the ball, passing and using his technique to create space for others. They are both on a very high level, but have different roles. Silva still had a respectful return, and also performed in the CL. 

Lukaku is a very good goal-scorer, but those goals has come in teams where he gets a lot of space. Many of his strengths would evaporate against packed defenses, and while I do not doubt that he can still score a respectful amount, I just doubt that he is going to become a high impact player that can change the game on his own. That is something that you must be able to ask of a player costing £100m. 

I would like to think that when clubs pay big money for young players, there is also an expectation/hope that the player in question is able to take the next step in his development when surrounded by better players than before. I wrote some time ago that I was hoping Conte could help Lukaku become more than he is today, but honestly I am not sure that there is much more. Lukaku is a player that is fast, very strong and a capable finisher, and in my opinion his development curve has hit its peak. Is the player he is today worth £100m? I would absolutely disagree with that. I think that Belotti and Morata have yet to show how they would perform week in and week out as the spearhead of a good teams attack, and therefore it is harder to value them for me. 

Will Lukaku score goals wherever he goes? I think so.
Is he a player that you want in the CL against elite defenders, or in the PL against teams parking the bus? In my opinion no. 

The problem is that whomever Chelsea gets, there will be a risk attached. I do however prefer buying a player that I believe can become world class, rather than one I believe will never reach it.

There are also numerous Belgian and Everton supporters who thought £80m was way too much for him.

[Barbara 15,149]

He's 10 goals away from becoming the all time TOP scorer in the history of Belgian National team (and this at the age of 23...)

But if you only rate him on how many World Cup/European Cup finals goals... He's done absolutely nothing at all!!

Don't need to rate him on goals where he never played, but in the matches he should have made the difference to take Belgium to stages they haven't been. He's been a farse in EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. Want me to list all world Cup and euros important matches he disappeared or are those matches regretfully and shamefully still alive in your memory. He's one of the the reasons why you didn't go further in such competitions, but the king to score goals against Luxembourg in qualifiers.

Also, since when becoming the top scorer for Belgium NT tells anything? It's not like you guys ever produced a van Persie or van Basten. Also you failed to mention that the 10 goals he's missing represents 50% of what he's scored, as the top scorer has 31 (impressive isn't) and Lukaku has 20. WOW, color me impressed

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

No matter how good he is right now and the last couple of years. He is not worth 75, 90, leave alone 100 million at the moment.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

I've been frustrated for two days.

At least this is a positive to rub in the face of manutd fans