The English Football Thread

[Laylabelle 9,384]

Hopefully he'll carry on.Gotta be more records to beat before the season is over

[Thendo 1,088]

Hopefully he'll carry on.Gotta be more records to beat before the season is over

Gotta beat them all!

[Spike 12,049]

The England national team fascinates me. Here is how I'd manage the bastards:

Starting XI

Lallana - Rooney - Walcott

Gerrard - Carrick

Barry

Baines - Smalling - Jones - Chambers

Forster

Bench

Hart

Shaw

Jagielka

Milner

Barkley

Lambert

Sturridge

Reserves

Ruddy

Cahill

Johnson

Lampard

Rodriguez

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Our 0x0 result playing United away looks pretty shitty now; 2 points down the drain.

^^ good lineup, but it's too late to "unbore" the team and their football. Phil Jones would be considered too adventurous CB as opposed to the no nonsense others. A great manager would have picked the best players (regardless of styles) and try creating a team with them. THen replacing one or two just to make it work. WC is just too close to do that now.

[didierforever 7,349]

The England national team fascinates me. Here is how I'd manage the bastards:

Starting XI

Lallana - Rooney - Walcott

Gerrard - Carrick

Barry

Baines - Smalling - Jones - Chambers

Forster

Bench

Hart

Shaw

Jagielka

Milner

Barkley

Lambert

Sturridge

Reserves

Ruddy

Cahill

Johnson

Lampard

Rodriguez

smalling ahead of cahill and carrick ahead of lamps in the box to box role would be my only doubts cos smalling sucks and carrick is far too immobile for that role.

[Spike 12,049]

smalling ahead of cahill and carrick ahead of lamps in the box to box role would be my only doubts cos smalling sucks and carrick is far too immobile for that role.

I picked Smalling because he has played with Jones a lot.

Nobody said anything about Carrick being in the B2B role...

[dave30 728]

The England national team fascinates me. Here is how I'd manage the bastards:

Starting XI

Lallana - Rooney - Walcott

Gerrard - Carrick

Barry

Baines - Smalling - Jones - Chambers

Forster

Barry shouldn't get anyway near England again after South Africa.

[Spike 12,049]

Barry shouldn't get anyway near England again after South Africa.

He has been pretty good for Everton. I couldn't think of any decent DM that could play over him.

[dave30 728]

He has been pretty good for Everton. I couldn't think of any decent DM that could play over him.

I'd probably go for something like this at Brazil

Hart

Baines - Jones - Cahil - Johnson

Gerrard - Wilshere - Barkley/Henderson

Llana - Rooney - Townsend/Sturridge

[Spike 12,049]

I'd probably go for something like this at Brazil

Hart

Baines - Jones - Cahil - Johnson

Gerrard - Wilshere - Barkley/Henderson

Llana - Rooney - Townsend/Sturridge

Maybe that would work. Johnson and Hart have been fucking awful though. Even Liverpool fans are sick of Johnson.

I forgot about Wilshere to be honest. Maybe I could move Carrick to the DM spot and replace Barry with Wilshere.

[didierforever 7,349]

I picked Smalling because he has played with Jones a lot.

Nobody said anything about Carrick being in the B2B role...

Smalling might have played a lot with jones, but that hardly makes up for his shitiness.

You have lined up in a 4-3-3 which has barry in it who can play nothing else than a DM, so by default gerrard and the other midfielder get more mobile. Otherwise it would be the same story for these guys as was against germany, sitting too deep and simply no transitiom from defence to attack.

[dave30 728]

Maybe that would work. Johnson and Hart have been fucking awful though. Even Liverpool fans are sick of Johnson.

I forgot about Wilshere to be honest. Maybe I could move Carrick to the DM spot and replace Barry with Wilshere.

Yer i'd stick with Hart for this tournament at least. I think his dip in form was slightly over-hyped. I'm not a massive fan of Johnson but I'm not going to lie don't think i've ever heard of Chambers.

[Spike 12,049]

Yer i'd stick with Hart for this tournament at least. I think his dip in form was slightly over-hyped. I'm not a massive fan of Johnson but I'm not going to lie don't think i've ever heard of Chambers.

He is the RB equivalent of Shaw that hasn't been hyped to fuck. Plays for Soton.

[Spike 12,049]

Smalling might have played a lot with jones, but that hardly makes up for his shitiness.

You have lined up in a 4-3-3 which has barry in it who can play nothing else than a DM, so by default gerrard and the other midfielder get more mobile. Otherwise it would be the same story for these guys as was against germany, sitting too deep and simply no transitiom from defence to attack.

Immobility doesn't equate to sitting deep and no transition. Gerrard and Carrick have immense passing range that gets around their immobility.

Xavi, Alonso and Busquets isn't the most mobile midfield in the world. But it seemed to work well enough for a World Cup and a Euro.

[didierforever 7,349]

Immobility doesn't equate to sitting deep and no transition. Gerrard and Carrick have immense passing range that gets around their immobility.

Xavi, Alonso and Busquets isn't the most mobile midfield in the world. But it seemed to work well enough for a World Cup and a Euro.

Seriously? Comparing the english mid to spain's. Well the difference would be that barry is not half the player xabi/busquets is. Lalana is compared to iniesta here, walcott is compared to silva/fab. And the worst thing is that while the spanish play tiki-taka to perfection I don't expect england to win the posession stat against any team even in the group stages.

Also do not forget that spain had a brilliant defense to accompany their mid, that's hardly what u can say about england's defence.

Carrick and gerrard might be great passers of the ball but I think so is frank plus he is a thousand times greater threat to the opposition goal than carrick is plus would definitely give the team a lot more than carrick playing in that mid field 3. I think even walcott would be a better option thab him.

[Strike 7,254]

The England national team fascinates me. Here is how I'd manage the bastards:

Starting XI

Lallana - Rooney - Walcott

Gerrard - Carrick

Barry

Baines - Smalling - Jones - Chambers

Forster

Cahill-Jagielka in defence. Sturridge instead of Walcott since he's injured. but yeah, this looks a lot better than the actual team with Johnson, Welbeck etc

[Spike 12,049]

Seriously? Comparing the english mid to spain's. Well the difference would be that barry is not half the player xabi/busquets is. Lalana is compared to iniesta here, walcott is compared to silva/fab. And the worst thing is that while the spanish play tiki-taka to perfection I don't expect england to win the posession stat against any team even in the group stages.

Also do not forget that spain had a brilliant defense to accompany their mid, that's hardly what u can say about england's defence.

Carrick and gerrard might be great passers of the ball but I think so is frank plus he is a thousand times greater threat to the opposition goal than carrick is plus would definitely give the team a lot more than carrick playing in that mid field 3. I think even walcott would be a better option thab him.

I didn't compare. If you actually read my post you will notice that I never actually compared the two sides. I merely stated the immobility does not equate to a stagnate midfield and I used Spain's midfield as an example.

[Spike 12,049]

Cahill-Jagielka in defence. Sturridge instead of Walcott since he's injured. but yeah, this looks a lot better than the actual team with Johnson, Welbeck etc

Cahill-Jagielka could work. I suppose it's probably better than Smalling - Jones.