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50 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

Yeah, that's true. Looking at their attacking quality we are still short. We don't have a single individual player of the likes of Salah or KDB.

The only department where I could say we can compete is in defense. But not sure if that's enough to challenge these guys for the long haul. Having said that, we have done as well as we could have in the opening fixtures.

It's excruciating to think that those two had been identified by our scouts long before anyone else as the generational talents they are before being shoved out the door by Mourinho.

Defense wins championships tho (not necessarily leagues tbh). I would be more confident if we had produced a similarly resilient performance vs City as we did vs Liverpool but I think the team that beat City 3 times last season and won at Anfield is still out there. We just have to be bold and drop Lukaku, defend with the whole team and might nick a point in each of those remaining direct fixtures. We are head and shoulders above the rest including leicester and ManUre with Ole, so we only have ourselves to blame if we fall short in those games. I also think we are 3rd favourites for the title but Liverpool's squad is paper thin and a lengthy injury to only two of their key players Alisson, VVD, Salah, Mane will break them. ManCity still favs for me.

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Solskjaer's situation is very similar to Lampard's  a year ago .

Frank and Ole    did a terrific job of improving their  teams but as the team gets better, the necessity for a tactically sharper coach increases too.

we all remember what Lampard's last matches were like

Everton - Chelsea 1:0

Wolves - Chelsea 2:1

Arsenal - Chelsea 3:1

Chelsea- Villa 1:1

Chelsea - City 1:3 

Leicester - Chelsea 2:0 

* after big spend summer same like United now 

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3 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

Yeah, that's true. Looking at their attacking quality we are still short. We don't have a single individual player of the likes of Salah or KDB.

The only department where I could say we can compete is in defense. But not sure if that's enough to challenge these guys for the long haul. Having said that, we have done as well as we could have in the opening fixtures.

Very good really.

Besides City game, we has been very very good.

The fact that we "only" has two really tough fixtures that is old trafford and empty had. Besides this games, we will be fine because we already play at anfield, emirates and spurs stadium.

let's see what will happen but we're in a very good position

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4 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

It's excruciating to think that those two had been identified by our scouts long before anyone else as the generational talents they are before being shoved out the door by Mourinho 

I know! It's why I like to pretend most of the time that they never played for the club before. Especially when they scored against us.

4 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

Defense wins championships tho (not necessarily leagues tbh). I would be more confident if we had produced a similarly resilient performance vs City as we did vs Liverpool but I think the team that beat City 3 times last season and won at Anfield is still out there. We just have to be bold and drop Lukaku, defend with the whole team and might nick a point in each of those remaining direct fixtures. We are head and shoulders above the rest including leicester and ManUre with Ole, so we only have ourselves to blame if we fall short in those games. I also think we are 3rd favourites for the title but Liverpool's squad is paper thin and a lengthy injury to only two of their key players Alisson, VVD, Salah, Mane will break them. ManCity still favs for me.

I agree about the defense, which is the main reason why I put us in within a shout of challenging. 

And yes you make a good point about Liverpool's squad strength. Although they would have to be really unlucky to suffer another season with injuries to key players. Keita is now out though, so who knows? I think they can get by Firminho & Jota during Afcon., but we'll see. 

If we're in a good position come end December I would feel a lot more confident.  

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Ronaldo McDonaldo probably sold a lot of shirts, and has a few goals, but the days of a striker that never tracks back or presses are gone.

Last one we had like that was Ossie - one game when we were defending he was sat on the barrier chatting to fans 😂

 

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5 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Ronaldo McDonaldo probably sold a lot of shirts, and has a few goals, but the days of a striker that never tracks back or presses are gone.

Last one we had like that was Ossie - one game when we were defending he was sat on the barrier chatting to fans 😂

 

he's still a good player for is age but no one can expect to challenge a title with him playing all matches.

He needs to manage very careful and I think United suffer more with him that less without him

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3 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Hope they leave him in place for just a few more weeks so they’re absolutely zero threat to us in the league. If Conte comes in and does a Tuchel it isn’t inconceivable that they could claw back into title contention.

This season no but next season i plent believe that united can challenge for the title .

 

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