ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Kun has signed an extension at city, wonder how that affects their interest in cavani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 He's one of the best strikers in world football, you have to expect to pay huge money if you want that. The only way someone would come cheaper is if their contract is nigh on run down.It's not a matter of 'falling for it' it's a matter of do we want one of the best.it feels overpriced though... and we need more guys than just a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Why do people keep talking about how we probably wont pay the 63 mill euros for him? We paid 50 for torres, its about the same converted now isn't it? Roman will pay whats necessary if he/Jose/the board wants the player enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Why do people keep talking about how we probably wont pay the 63 mill euros for him? We paid 50 for torres, its about the same converted now isn't it? Roman will pay whats necessary if he/Jose/the board wants the player enoughlet's not talk about that... the only worse deal in football history is RM's bid for Kaká.But maybe you guys are right and he has like 100M to spend. I only worry about spending too much in one player when we also need reinforcements in other positions like CB and DM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 45 mil + torres. Pizy and mediator 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,146 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 it feels overpriced though... and we need more guys than just a striker.Believe me it isn't over priced, he's every bit his release clause IMO....we will address other areas I'm sure of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 I wouldn't rule out the fee being paid, 63m euros., I said with Torres to myself, no chance we will pay 50m. fucking did. DO NOT rule it out. Something tell me if its a part ex. it could well involve Marin, Romeu etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 If we don't get him, then i think we should get somonne like rooney. He is not on Cavani's level but we need someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drog.ba 239 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 I don't see us having torres and cavani at the same time.yeah, we had Drogba and Shevchenko/Crespo together though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,146 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 So lets look at the big picture....We spend 50M on Cavani, 10M on De Rossi and 20M on Schurlle, plus bring back KDB, Essien and Lukaku....Now we ain't looking bad are we?Takes FM hat off.....even though I don't play it. ulsterchelsea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 62 + Torres Rambo, Barbara, Beepu and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,953 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 62 + TorresIs Torres really worth €1m though?We'll pay full price and the cost of the plane ticket to get him there. Shit, we'll pay for his medical too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 So lets look at the big picture....We spend 50M on Cavani, 10M on De Rossi and 20M on Schurlle, plus bring back KDB, Essien and Lukaku....Now we ain't looking bad are we?Takes FM hat off.....even though I don't play it. that's a good deal actually.we could offload Torres, Mikel, Ba and a few others to make some money - as they probably don't value much but if could cover the other two guys. and yeah, I think Torres is really worth little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Is Torres really worth €1m though?We'll pay full price and the cost of the plane ticket to get him there. Shit, we'll pay for his medical too.If you consider the remaining wages, that's something like 1 + 3 x 10 M... so yes i approve that deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,146 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 that's a good deal actually.we could offload Torres, Mikel, Ba and a few others to make some money - as they probably don't value much but if could cover the other two guys. and yeah, I think Torres is really worth little.Offloading Torres and Ba would be wrong, we would then be in the same situation as last season with two strikers. Cavani and Lukaku and nothing else, we need more back up. My take is keep Torres, Lukaku back in, plus Cavani, three forwards is a good number IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Offloading Torres and Ba would be wrong, we would then be in the same situation as last season with two strikers. Cavani and Lukaku and nothing else, we need more back up. My take is keep Torres, Lukaku back in, plus Cavani, three forwards is a good number IMO.with the quality we have with our CAMs I don't know if we need more than Cavani and Lukaku. trust me Mourinho will change a lot the way at least Oscar and Hazard play. I don't think we'll play with two strikers in a match except in a particular case we're losing and need to be risky.The formation will probably continue to be 4-2-3-1 and Mou will have one of those "3" to play like Cris played in RM... I still look to RM formation as a 4-2-2-2 despite everything else. Cris had no defense responsibilities and he was never a midfield if he rarely passed the ball and assisted someone. He was a striker through and through, I don't care about what Mourinho and whoever else calls that formation. And then he can rotate Cavani and Lukaku the same way he rotated Higuain and Benzema. I'm still hoping he brings Higuain for us instead of letting him go to Juve.I'm sure Pipita still wants to work with Mourinho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,146 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 with the quality we have with our CAMs I don't know if we need more than Cavani and Lukaku. trust me Mourinho will change a lot the way at least Oscar and Hazard play. I don't think we'll play with two strikers in a match except in a particular case we're losing and need to be risky.The formation will probably continue to be 4-2-3-1 and Mou will have one of those "3" to play like Cris played in RM... I still look to RM formation as a 4-2-2-2 despite everything else. Cris had no defense responsibilities and he was never a midfield if he rarely passed the ball and assisted someone. He was a striker through and through, I don't care about what Mourinho and whoever else calls that formation. And then he can rotate Cavani and Lukaku the same way he rotated Higuain and Benzema. I'm still hoping he brings Higuain for us instead of letting him go to Juve.I'm sure Pipita still wants to work with Mourinho.If we have an injury in a two man striker force it reduces it to one, and a freak red card etc can leave us having nobody and doing what we did against Napoli in the CL winning season and playing a stranger up top, it's a huge, huge risk to take with the amount of games we play as a club. Last season we were massively fortunate that Torres, as bad as he was at times did not get an injury as the run in and clamber for fourth would of been tougher than it was. We need to avoid that at all costs again by buying/introducing another body.Torres did well in the run, worked hard and put himself about, I'm sure Jose would make him even better, and the prospect of Lukaku, Mata, Hazard, Oscar and Cavani under Jose is a tremendous thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Right and schurle can play up front if needed. Don't forget that this season was a bit different, only Torres was eligible for europa league, Ba was cup tied. So starting with only Cavani and lukaku is already an upgrade (in term of quantity, not quality... heu wait )If the rumors for Hulk are true, another one that can play as striker, so Cavani and only lukaku are enough for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanBlue 82 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 I just can't see Ba leaving after just a half year. If one striker leaves, it will be Torres. Ba is the perfect rotation striker to me.Right and schurle can play up front if needed. There's a bigger chance of Hazard doing the false 9 like at Juventus than Schürrle playing the striker I think. And for a reason. Schürrle is awful if he plays alone up front. I can see him as a second striker, but not alone. Mufassir08 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Right and schurle can play up front if needed. Don't forget that this season was a bit different, only Torres was eligible for europa league, Ba was cup tied. So starting with only Cavani and lukaku is already an upgrade (in term of quantity, not quality... heu wait )If the rumors for Hulk are true, another one that can play as striker, so Cavani and only lukaku are enough for mePlease, no Hulk. the guy isn't suitable to EPL at all. too heavyedit:I just realized my first post my have sound contradictory if I said I don't think we'll play with two strikers except on need and then I go saying that Mou will probably have someone to play like Cris did.I meant we won't have for example Torres + Lukaku playing the same match except the eventual exception. But I do think he'll develop either Eden or Oscar to play like Cris did - but I'm not saying he's going to make them the next Cris... I'm not crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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