Popular Post! Leif 6,006 Posted June 1, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted June 1, 2013 Best striker in the world. I just don't understand how it can even be up for debate. I really do not. He's not just the most complete striker, but I think he's the most complete player in the top 5 or 10 leagues currently. He's got the engine of Ramires, hold-up play of Drogba, aerial ability of, well, Drogba again, finishing of...Drogba in his prime, the passing any striker is really expected to have (better than any of our current options), instinct of Falcao, pace which rivals any player not in the 'elite' speed class such as Walcott, Ronaldo, Lennon, Doumbia etc; the audacity to try shots we wouldn't even think of like Ibrahimovic or perhaps Cisse of last season; the strength of 3 tanks combined; a first-touch which could rival Mata's and most importantly to me personally you simply don't see him not give his all in any club game. (He seems sad when playing for his national team but still gives a lot.)On top of all that, he's a beast whether defending or attacking set pieces. Our most important player from set pieces (defending) over the years was Drogba. He would simply win the ball back in the air or hassle opponents, hit the ball to Malouda, Mata or whoever's available, then try his hardest to counter-attack. This is exactly what Cavani does also - only Cavani has more stamina and pace.I think he's got what cannot be calculated or presented with stats. Just a special aura which only special players have. These players so often end up at Chelsea. When I look at Cavani, I see everything which represents this club which is slowly being lost with the decline and loss of our core. I think we need him.Oh, and just keep in mind he's achieved all that and hasn't been managed by a single top class manager in his career while also playing with no more than 3 top players at once at club level (Hamsik, Lavezzi when he was there and, well, okay make that 2 players.) Just imagine what he could do here under Mourinho.Edit: Other important traits:- He's a masterful penalty taker. He's as composed as they come. He's got above average dribbling for such a strong, physical striker. His ball control is something to be admired. He always gets the ball in place inch-perfect when he wants to round the keeper or fool a defender. Also unlike so many players we get linked to, he always performs in the big games. stefansjjacko, GermanBlue, Tomo and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Best striker in the world. I just don't understand how it can even be up for debate. I really do not. He's not just the most complete striker, but I think he's the most complete player in the top 5 or 10 leagues currently. He's got the engine of Ramires, hold-up play of Drogba, aerial ability of, well, Drogba again, finishing of...Drogba in his prime, the passing any striker is really expected to have (better than any of our current options), instinct of Falcao, pace which rivals any player not in the 'elite' speed class such as Walcott, Ronaldo, Lennon, Doumbia etc; the audacity to try shots we wouldn't even think of like Ibrahimovic or perhaps Cisse of last season; the strength of 3 tanks combined; a first-touch which could rival Mata's and most importantly to me personally you simply don't see him not give his all in any club game. (He seems sad when playing for his national team but still gives a lot.)On top of all that, he's a beast whether defending or attacking set pieces. Our most important player from set pieces (defending) over the years was Drogba. He would simply win the ball back in the air or hassle opponents, hit the ball to Malouda, Mata or whoever's available, then try his hardest to counter-attack. This is exactly what Cavani does also - only Cavani has more stamina and pace.I think he's got what cannot be calculated or presented with stats. Just a special aura which only special players have. These players so often end up at Chelsea. When I look at Cavani, I see everything which represents this club which is slowly being lost with the decline and loss of our core. I think we need him.Oh, and just keep in mind he's achieved all that and hasn't been managed by a single top class manager in his career while also playing with no more than 3 top players at once at club level (Hamsik, Lavezzi when he was there and, well, okay make that 2 players.) Just imagine what he could do here under Mourinho.Edit: Other important traits:- He's a masterful penalty taker. He's as composed as they come. He's got above average dribbling for such a strong, physical striker. His ball control is something to be admired. He always gets the ball in place inch-perfect when he wants to round the keeper or fool a defender. Also unlike so many players we get linked to, he always performs in the big games.Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanishBlue 426 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 From that post he sounds like a pretty solid striker I'll buy everyone here a beer if he comes. I don't know how that would work out but I have some time to think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Please try to stay on topic people. We have proper threads to discuss almost any subject. This thread is getting derailed to death!Plan Z time ? CHOULO19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Plan Z time ?No, no. Not yet! Stingray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDude 49 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 If Cavani would come he wouldn't have to do the dirty work so much and then he could focus more on opening and finishing attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSunshine 672 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Best striker in the world. I just don't understand how it can even be up for debate. I really do not. He's not just the most complete striker, but I think he's the most complete player in the top 5 or 10 leagues currently. He's got the engine of Ramires, hold-up play of Drogba, aerial ability of, well, Drogba again, finishing of...Drogba in his prime, the passing any striker is really expected to have (better than any of our current options), instinct of Falcao, pace which rivals any player not in the 'elite' speed class such as Walcott, Ronaldo, Lennon, Doumbia etc; the audacity to try shots we wouldn't even think of like Ibrahimovic or perhaps Cisse of last season; the strength of 3 tanks combined; a first-touch which could rival Mata's and most importantly to me personally you simply don't see him not give his all in any club game. (He seems sad when playing for his national team but still gives a lot.)He is in the top 3 strikers in the world but you are clearly overhyping him. Nowhere near the engine Ramires is, not as good as DD in the air and not as lethal as Falcao. I think that he is the best all-around striker though, but certainly not the best at everything like you make him out to be. Mufassir08, Rmpr and The Skipper 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Nowhere near the engine Ramires is How much of him do you watch? Can you prove that? He's in the opposition box and in his own box far more than Ramires is. not as good as DD in the air He really, really is. Check out his goals from this season on Youtube. They're all in one video if you search "Cavani". Simply watch how he dominates the air. Drogba would too often try and push his opponent away before chesting the ball; Cavani gets his head right to it and it works every time. and not as lethal as Falcao. I know and I didn't say he was. He has the same poacher's instinct that Falcao is; As-in being in the right place at the right time. Like a 6th-sense. I think that he is the best all-around striker though, but certainly not the best at everything like you make him out to be. I didn't make out he's the best at anything or everything lol. My whole post is saying and explaining how he's the best all-round striker which you've just said yourself, but not the best at any particular abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 He is in the top 3 strikers in the world but you are clearly overhyping him. Nowhere near the engine Ramires is, not as good as DD in the air and not as lethal as Falcao. I think that he is the best all-around striker though, but certainly not the best at everything like you make him out to be.Welcome to his world, where bias and hype rule over rationality... bababoom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 any developments on this front... rumors? anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,702 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 any developments on this front... rumors? anything?Don't worry, it's only the 1th of june.. Announce Morinho first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Don't worry, it's only the 1th of june.. Announce Morinho first.i know but with city snapping on his heals and with falcao and lewano longer an option, he should be our no.1 concern after mou is announced tomorrow (hopefully). i just dont want to be stuck with torres any longer, Pizy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Welcome to his world, where bias and hype rule over rationality... What a great, constructive post to add to a discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 What a great, constructive post to add to a discussion Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,146 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Wait, someone is comparing Cavani to Ramires? Time for bed for some folk me think. Rmpr and bababoom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Wait, someone is comparing Cavani to Ramires? Time for bed for some folk me think. Comparing a skill. You know how people compare Rooney's finishing Torres? Should they not do that considering they've played different positions this season?Should Messi not be compared with Ronaldo since they play different positions? Should Gerrard and Lampard not be compared considering they've played completely different roles throughout their careers? No. This is more of a message to everyone now: If you can't comprehend the fact that 2 players don't have to have identical DNA/genetics to be discussed and maybe, just maybe your opinion is wrong or should be reconsidered, you shouldn't be 'contributing' to a topic you know little of, especially when it causes derailment which the very same people complain about in other threads.Just had to fit that in before this becomes 3 pages of insults like in the Mourinho thread. Voila. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,146 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Comparing a skill. You know how people compare Rooney's finishing Torres? Should they not do that considering they've played different positions this season?Should Messi not be compared with Ronaldo since they play different positions? Should Gerrard and Lampard not be compared considering they've played completely different roles throughout their careers? No. This is more of a message to everyone now: If you can't comprehend the fact that 2 players don't have to have identical DNA/genetics to be discussed and maybe, just maybe your opinion is wrong or should be reconsidered, you shouldn't be 'contributing' to a topic you know little of, especially when it causes derailment which the very same people complain about in other threads.Just had to fit that in before this becomes 3 pages of insults like in the Mourinho thread. Voila. Wow a threat and some bull shit thrown in....Keep it up lad.Message for you....Don't compare an energetic average midfield passer of the ball to someone who is the best in the world in their position.Voila. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Message for you....Don't compare an energetic average midfield passer of the ball to someone who is the best in the world in their position.I think you may have miss understood. All Leif has said was that Cavani "has the engine of Ramires." where did he compare Cavani's passing to Rambo, or his heading to rambo or any other trait to rambo? He simply compared his stamina to ramires. I dont see much wrong in that, and thats all he did. unless you mean he shouldn't compare ANY trait of Cavani's to rambo then thats a whole other story. couris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,146 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 I think you may have miss understood.All Leif has said was that Cavani "has the engine of Ramires." where did he compare Cavani's passing to Rambo, or his heading to rambo or any other trait to rambo? He simply compared his stamina to ramires. I dont see much wrong in that, and thats all he did.unless you mean he shouldn't compare ANY trait of Cavani's to rambo then thats a whole other story.Loook I have had about 20 bottles of beer I am sorry if I have the wrong end of the stick.Am wrecked. Blue-in-me-Veins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,952 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Question: Which would you be more disappointed about come the start of the season, if we don't buy a top CF or if Torres is still here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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