Edinson Cavani

[Tricky 301]

TX is absolutely right here. Cavani's arrival means the end of Sturridge. Maybe the only chance is if Torres leaves but I can't see that happening nor can I see this transfer going through.

Cavani isn't signing for us, not seen a single reliable source regarding this, also runs counter to the statement that he was going to be leading our front line this year. For me it's Azi and Moses / Hulk (delete as you see fit).

Actually think Sturridge could be a great CF, probably be better as one of two though as I don't see him leading the front line on his own.

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Cavani isn't signing for us, not seen a single reliable source regarding this, also runs counter to the statement that he was going to be leading our front line this year. For me it's Azi and Moses / Hulk (delete as you see fit).

Actually think Sturridge could be a great CF, probably be better as one of two though as I don't see him leading the front line on his own.

Well that is what I wrote, isn't it ?

Yep, agree with the other part too. He could be great in a 4-4-2 with a powerful CF beside him. Something like Didier and Nico in 08/09.

[Hutcho 8,443]

What a fucking muppet you are. Do you even remember the same Drogba as I do? Drogba missed so many chances his first 18 months at Chelsea. He was constantly complaining about how wrong he was to sign for Chelsea. Drogba couldn't even stay on his feet, and certainly didn't look like a footballer, even though he was in the by far best team in England and probably the whole world as well. Like I've said in a previous post, Drogba tends to bring out the goldfish in most of the Chelsea supporters.

Like I've said before, Drogba is probably the best player who's ever played for Chelsea (at least the best I've ever seen as a fan for 42 years), but he hasn't been anywhere near a constant performer for our club.

Over to the Cavani-man, I don't want him. People are screaming for a striker who can do things on his own, but Cavani isn't any better than Torres (anyone remember that small tournament called the Olympics two weeks ago?).

Not to seem to nitpick, but Lampard...

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How many goals did Drogba score again in the first 18months?...Definitely more than 10goals in all competitions, you also carefully forgot to state that he was out of action for more than a month and came back to score in the League Cup semi and final IIRC...He was a diving cunt back then, and even Chelsea fans gave him stick for it...Yeah he had Frank Lampard in his prime, so also did Torres have the assist machine "Mata" last season, but it always happened that whenever Torres is on the field, so how Mata cant create any chance to save his life, or there is another "NEARLY MOMENT"(honestly if he is that unlucky, how about we get a lucky striker who someone gets the ball in the back of the net)...

Now to the man Cavani; you also carefully either didnt watch the Champions league, which he played well and scored against us and decided to base your judgement on him solely on the Olympics where the dumb national team coach decided it would be best to play Cavani on the right....Well i on the other hand, watch a handful of Napoli games last season and i know he can freaking score, i am sure i watched him do it more than 7 times and when it counted...So i would scream for joy if by some chance we pull this signing off...

Drogba played for the best team in England and probably the whole world as well (we lost the CL due to Mourinho's extremely lousy tactical abilities in 04-05). I had a season ticket to our games that year (worked in England), and his diving wasn't the only thing he was criticized for. There was also his incredibly dumb comments about Chelsea and his lack of effort (which were a common thing to see from Drogba in 04-05, first half of the 05-06 season, 07-08 season, first half of the 08-09 season, the 10-11 season and the first 3/4 of the previous season). Whilst Mata is a good player, he's not anywhere near Cole, Robben, Duff, Lamps, Gudjohnsen and Makelele combined, not anywhere close. We were a team machine the first two seasons under Mourinho, and like I've said before, Drogba has missed more chances than Torres will ever do for this club.

I can also see that you're failing to understand what I wrote about Cavani, and it's not a surprise. Whilst Cavani plays well for the mumbo jumbo team called Napoli, who are going a block forward in every match they play, he couldn't do shit when his opponents were Ching-Chong, Ali and Shish Kebab in the Olympics. Even if he were played out wide you would expect him to beat his marker at least a few times during the match, Cavani didn't.

If we are going to buy a striker (not a hybrid solution like Schurrle), get me an English hardman who's not afraid to get his elbows dirty. I absolutely love Rickie Lambert (or his type of player - think Dixon or Shearer). I'm also very confident in our young son Bamford, who I think will be a fantastic player, not to mention Sturridge who has his butt full of potential.

[OssiesCorner 14]

Not to seem to nitpick, but Lampard...

Lampard is in my opinion a greater player, but the best one is Drogba. He is probably the only player we've ever had who's been the best player in the world (in his position), and by some margin as well, at some point in his career for us.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of Drogba and what he did for this club. He is our best player ever and arguably the greatest Big Game Player we'll ever have. However, there is a certain amount of bad memory attached to his week in and week out performances for our club, and hearing people scream about Drogba after one league match where Torres fails to score is very strange.

[Hutcho 8,443]

Lampard is in my opinion a greater player, but the best one is Drogba. He is probably the only player we've ever had who's been the best player in the world (in his position), and by some margin as well, at some point in his career for us.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of Drogba and what he did for this club. He is our best player ever and arguably the greatest Big Game Player we'll ever have. However, there is a certain amount of bad memory attached to his week in and week out performances for our club, and hearing people scream about Drogba after one league match where Torres fails to score is very strange.

We will have to agree to disagree on the first line, my fault though for taking us off topic... They are both AMAZING players we can agree on that...

[Mata_10 17]

Lampard is in my opinion a greater player, but the best one is Drogba. He is probably the only player we've ever had who's been the best player in the world (in his position), and by some margin as well, at some point in his career for us.

Ashley Cole

[daBlackMamba7 174]

Drogba played for the best team in England and probably the whole world as well (we lost the CL due to Mourinho's extremely lousy tactical abilities in 04-05). I had a season ticket to our games that year (worked in England), and his diving wasn't the only thing he was criticized for. There was also his incredibly dumb comments about Chelsea and his lack of effort (which were a common thing to see from Drogba in 04-05, first half of the 05-06 season, 07-08 season, first half of the 08-09 season, the 10-11 season and the first 3/4 of the previous season). Whilst Mata is a good player, he's not anywhere near Cole, Robben, Duff, Lamps, Gudjohnsen and Makelele combined, not anywhere close. We were a team machine the first two seasons under Mourinho, and like I've said before, Drogba has missed more chances than Torres will ever do for this club.

I can also see that you're failing to understand what I wrote about Cavani, and it's not a surprise. Whilst Cavani plays well for the mumbo jumbo team called Napoli, who are going a block forward in every match they play, he couldn't do shit when his opponents were Ching-Chong, Ali and Shish Kebab in the Olympics. Even if he were played out wide you would expect him to beat his marker at least a few times during the match, Cavani didn't.

If we are going to buy a striker (not a hybrid solution like Schurrle), get me an English hardman who's not afraid to get his elbows dirty. I absolutely love Rickie Lambert (or his type of player - think Dixon or Shearer). I'm also very confident in our young son Bamford, who I think will be a fantastic player, not to mention Sturridge who has his butt full of potential.

Everybody knows that Drogba never wanted to come to Chelsea and didnt hide that fact, but that doesnt mean he didnt score more goals in 18months or wasnt injured for a good 2months or so....I dont care how many goals Torres misses, but the number he score...How many has he scored in 18months compared to Drogba, out team might not be as good, but the excuse that we dont create chances is a myth that Mata alone debunk last season....

You want us to go for an A STRONG ENGLISH MAN like Mr. Carroll right?....Big strong and confident.....Cavani was played out of position and you are giving him hell, yet you are making excuses for the last 18months of Torres?

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Ashley Cole

Good point, sir. However, on his day, I've never seen any player in the world being so dominant as Drogba. Messi? Yes, he's a decent footballer, but if you cut the support from his team, there is absolutely possible to stop him. Drogba however, not so much. In form he has technical abilities beyond normal and physical abilities beyond a gorilla.

There are players in each generations you couldn't stop. Pele was arguably 20 years into the feature in terms of abilites. Maradona had the same "issue". Fat Ronaldo was immense and one of the all time greatest. And then there's Drogba. Drogba Drogba Drogba. Unplayable on his day, very playable when not motivated.

[OssiesCorner 14]

Everybody knows that Drogba never wanted to come to Chelsea and didnt hide that fact, but that doesnt mean he didnt score more goals in 18months or wasnt injured for a good 2months or so....I dont care how many goals Torres misses, but the number he score...How many has he scored in 18months compared to Drogba, out team might not be as good, but the excuse that we dont create chances is a myth that Mata alone debunk last season....

You want us to go for an A STRONG ENGLISH MAN like Mr. Carroll right?....Big strong and confident.....Cavani was played out of position and you are giving him hell, yet you are making excuses for the last 18months of Torres?

Okay. I wasn't here on the forum when Torres made his comments after the CL final, but I'm guessing that he was heavily criticized. Drogba was much worse in his comments, much worse. There was no "thank you" for us supporters who paid his wages, not anything.

You're saying that you don't care how many chances a player misses, only how much they scores? Well, I don't know what the math teachers teach youngsters nowadays, but you can't score three goals if you have two opportunites, that's beyond 100% efficiency (if you didn't know...). Even you must admit that it's easier to score 16 goals a season if you're having four clear cut chances per game and not one clear cut chance per game, right? That's what Drogba got his first 18 months here, regularly three-four clear goal scoring opportunities every single game.

As for the Beer Can that is Carroll, he's not anywhere near Lambert, and I'm sorry if you fail to see that. Silly season after silly season I'm always wondering what our scouts does in their job hours. Hulk, Cavani, Llorente, Torres, all well known stars before they became targets. And yes, I'm giving Cavani hell. He was one of the overaged players who you would expect to take responsability when it got tough, even though he played out wide. Mata played for an absolutely garbage Spainish side, and he was constantly their best performer.

If Cavani in means Sturridge out, then I'm sorry for our club. If Sturridge isn't better already then he certainly has the potential to become just that. I would be much more worried that our team struggles to keep a clean sheet against bottom league teams, and Cavani won't help with that, nor will he help with us creating more than three chances per game.

[daBlackMamba7 174]

Okay. I wasn't here on the forum when Torres made his comments after the CL final, but I'm guessing that he was heavily criticized. Drogba was much worse in his comments, much worse. There was no "thank you" for us supporters who paid his wages, not anything.

You're saying that you don't care how many chances a player misses, only how much they scores? Well, I don't know what the math teachers teach youngsters nowadays, but you can't score three goals if you have two opportunites, that's beyond 100% efficiency (if you didn't know...). Even you must admit that it's easier to score 16 goals a season if you're having four clear cut chances per game and not one clear cut chance per game, right? That's what Drogba got his first 18 months here, regularly three-four clear goal scoring opportunities every single game.

As for the Beer Can that is Carroll, he's not anywhere near Lambert, and I'm sorry if you fail to see that. Silly season after silly season I'm always wondering what our scouts does in their job hours. Hulk, Cavani, Llorente, Torres, all well known stars before they became targets. And yes, I'm giving Cavani hell. He was one of the overaged players who you would expect to take responsability when it got tough, even though he played out wide. Mata played for an absolutely garbage Spainish side, and he was constantly their best performer.

If Cavani in means Sturridge out, then I'm sorry for our club. If Sturridge isn't better already then he certainly has the potential to become just that. I would be much more worried that our team struggles to keep a clean sheet against bottom league teams, and Cavani won't help with that, nor will he help with us creating more than three chances per game.

Chelsea fans punished Drogba according for his screw up, he was booed by the fans at one point...Even with all the Drogba missed chances and what not, he fought for his spot against some of the best of that time....Jimmy was pretty good back then, so also was Gudjohnsen and Crespo....What is wrong with Torres doing the same?..Well if you are judging Cavani based on the olympics, i am based on the Serie A and Champions league where he scored 30plus goals...

Why does the coming in of Cavani have to lead to the end of Sturridge?...Rather i see an under performing Torres doing that, because if the striker is performing and we are winning games there will always be opportunity for the younger ones...But when he is not scoring, then there is always maybe he will find his form in the next game or a striker need 90mins and a run of games or whatever excuses....

I have never heard of Lambert until on sunday, so i am not going to comment on that...Our scouts found "your son Bamford" and also Feruz, so they are doing something...lol

[JDY 1,290]

Lols.

[Melanicus 5,208]

Another agent?

[termninja 5,290]

Dear lord, if they sign Cavani...I...I...well come on, it's worse then fucking FIFA and FM combined!

Hopefully, it's just twitter bullshit.

[Slam Dunk 1,442]

I need 500 retweets on this tweet for me to release it

The mark of truly great journalism

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Chelsea fans punished Drogba according for his screw up, he was booed by the fans at one point...Even with all the Drogba missed chances and what not, he fought for his spot against some of the best of that time....Jimmy was pretty good back then, so also was Gudjohnsen and Crespo....What is wrong with Torres doing the same?..Well if you are judging Cavani based on the olympics, i am based on the Serie A and Champions league where he scored 30plus goals...

Why does the coming in of Cavani have to lead to the end of Sturridge?...Rather i see an under performing Torres doing that, because if the striker is performing and we are winning games there will always be opportunity for the younger ones...But when he is not scoring, then there is always maybe he will find his form in the next game or a striker need 90mins and a run of games or whatever excuses....

I have never heard of Lambert until on sunday, so i am not going to comment on that...Our scouts found "your son Bamford" and also Feruz, so they are doing something...lol

If you hadn't heard about Lambart until Sunday, then I'm sorry. He alone has shot the Saints up two divisions already, and will be a close call for the top scorer of the Premiership. Reminds me alot of King Kerry.

However, there are some serious facts you've got wrong. Firstly, Drogba was Mourinho's goldenboy, just as the stupid decision of placing Gallas (because of Carvalho) out wide (and therefor losing him later on). Gallas and Terry had a far better connection and was the best centre back pairing we've had in this club. Secondly, Jimmy had left the club when Drogba came in. Last but not least, Gudjohnsen were preferred in the midfield under Mourinho, probably because of his preferance of having Drogba up front. Drogba didn't fight for his place at our club in his first two years, he had it no matter how many people he punched, coins he tossed or dives he made.

Sturridge won't sit on the bench for another 5-6 years (the amount of years Cavani probably has in him). Two years with 30-ish games (and maybe more) behind Torres however, that's a scenario I think he would cope with.

Yes, every club picks up loads of talents every year. The problem is what you're doing with them. Right now we have two absolute gems in Feruz and Bamford. I can see Bamford lead a PL team in a couple of years, that means week in and week out. Feruz is absolutely brilliant with so much potential. We also have Piazon, a pretty talented guy coming up who's been played as a striker under RDM's reign. If we buy another big name striker now, then I think that we'll struggle to bring up those gems we already have.

Torres has underperformed, yes, but not to the degree many "supporters" are making it to be. His assist and goal tally last season proves that. His performances towards the end of the last season, Euro's and these two matches so far in the season has shown a massive improvement. He takes his chances (in the ratio you would expect a world class striker to do) and he's making his runs. Hell, even Lawrenson, a filthy little scouser, pointed that out in MOTD.

[Porthos 35]

Where's there's smoke ...........

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4498870/Chelsea-will-swoop-for-35million-Napoli-ace-Edinson-Cavani.html

[jakeheath 19]

Oh man would have to pinch myself if this was truex I do think we need two gun strikers, all good epl teams have them Rooney,rvp,welbeck,chicarito, city tevez,balotwlli,dzeko and aguero, we just can't risk going into a season with so many games and expect no injuries

Rather be save than sorry

[blue_swaggin_96 96]

city bids been accepted? blah blah!

i don't think were going to let city just get him! watch this space his more likely then ours , porto third party issue with hulk might edge us closer to cavani+moses

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Ashley Cole

Makelle? Also Lampard was voted in the top three for world player of the year twice, kinda makes him world class IMO.