Strike 7,511 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Mata on the wing is not bad. He did fairly well in the first few months under AVB but knowing how good he is in the playmaker role, he shouldn't be shunted to the wings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Mata on the wing is not bad. He did fairly well in the first few months under AVB but knowing how good he is in the playmaker role, he shouldn't be shunted to the wingshe roams all over the pitch anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,511 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 he roams all over the pitch anywayyeah. that is true. keeps switching with hazard/oscar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 4-2-1-3??de ross- ram as pivot, Mata as CAM..pretty much an attacking 4-3-3 rather than our holding 4-1-2-3 formation used before. Gives plenty of space for our amigos to swap about and attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 yeah. that is true. keeps switching with hazard/oscar4-2-1-3??de ross- ram as pivot, Mata as CAM..pretty much an attacking 4-3-3 rather than our holding 4-1-2-3 formation used before. Gives plenty of space for our amigos to swap about and attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 (KDB-De Rossi-Oscar) would not not work IMO since both are not natural midfielders, (Ramires-De Rossi-Oscar) would however be goodBut if we went to a 4-3-3 Mata would be pushed out wide. While he's still an effective player on the wing, he isn't at his best there.It could work against some teams, but I don't know if I want to see Mata out on the wing trying to deal with Zabaleta for instance.Mata is one player, yes he's our best one but he's only one player. If the all squad is more suitable for 4-3-3 i prefer we play it. Not to mention that even if Mata placed on the right, he could still roam around like always. In the beginning of the season he was placed on the right and Oscar in the middle btw.I think that 4-3-3 is more suitable for us because Ramires, Lampard, Oscar and KDB all play better in this system i think. Playing Ramires-De Rossi would realy lack the creativity most teams have in those positions, and it will be hard for us to play against them. Just look at the midfield of Bayern and Dortmund, the two teams who got to the final of last season, they are so creative in this area. Schwei-Kross-Martinez (now Thiago also), Gundogan-Bender, and Alonso-Khdira, Iniesta-Xabi-Busquets. I think we need to build a midfield who could compete with the best, becuase thats what we are trying to be. You just need to look at last season CL to understand that a De Rossi-Ramires pivot wouldnt get us too far. It doesnt fits todays football.Anyway MVG-Rossi-Oscar could also work i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 I am pretty sure we have toplay 4-3-3 in the big games. Nowadays all big teams except Barca teams play 4-2-3-1. We only can beat them when we have one man more in midfield. Mata will be useless against Real, BAyern, City, Juve anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabHazard 655 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 I am pretty sure we have toplay 4-3-3 in the big games. Nowadays all big teams except Barca teams play 4-2-3-1. We only can beat them when we have one man more in midfield. Mata will be useless against Real, BAyern, City, Juve anyway. Real madrid played 4-2-3-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Real madrid played 4-2-3-1Yes, that's what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Please delete my post then where i mentioned the same. Looks odd now that the thread has been merged. Thanks. It doesn't matter. Looks in place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 I am pretty sure we have toplay 4-3-3 in the big games. Nowadays all big teams except Barca teams play 4-2-3-1. We only can beat them when we have one man more in midfield. Mata will be useless against Real, BAyern, City, Juve anyway. Not realy. If we create good team work and make our young players top players once (Lukaku, Kdb, Chalobah, Oscar, Hazard, Schurrle,...), others will fear us. Maybe not next season or two, but then we will be realy top team in the world with great environment under Mou.If we get Ddr and Rooney/Ibra then we will be very strong in this comming season already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Maicon to Roma agreed. Considering they wanted Wallace in any De Rossi deal, get the impression we may have told them no and moved on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,705 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Maicon to Roma agreed. Considering they wanted Wallace in any De Rossi deal, get the impression we may have told them no and moved onWe can sign De Rossi without Wallace. He will be more expensive though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Haven't clicked on this thread in a while so my last read post was a lot of pages back. It is hilarious to read how many times someone in claims it is a done deal or 'very close' or will happen in the next 48 hours and it is sad to see the triumphant reaction here followed inevitably by disappointment every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Yes, rumors are abound. I just hope, Chelsea are getting De Rossi or anybody. Otherwise, it might be another laborious season. Somehow, I get the feeling the team is still not there to win it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadenza666 221 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Yes, rumors are abound. I just hope, Chelsea are getting De Rossi or anybody. Otherwise, it might be another laborious season. Somehow, I get the feeling the team is still not there to win it all.KDB, Lukaku returning plus 3 signings already - Marco Van Ginkel. Andre Schurrle, Mark Schwarzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De_ChrapQaa 192 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Yes, rumors are abound. I just hope, Chelsea are getting De Rossi or anybody. Otherwise, it might be another laborious season. Somehow, I get the feeling the team is still not there to win it all.Honestly, my confidence relies not on players we have in squad, but the man who's sitting in front of the bench, because of that i don't really mind which players we sign... KEEP CALM AND TRUST JOSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 KDB, Lukaku returning plus 3 signings already - Marco Van Ginkel. Andre Schurrle, Mark Schwarzer Happy about them all. However, still not proven PL players in my opinion apart from Lukaku. As for Mark, he won´t play much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Honestly, my confidence relies not on players we have in squad, but the man who's sitting in front of the bench, because of that i don't really mind which players we sign... KEEP CALM AND TRUST JOSEWell, Jose is fine, certainly one of the best. Games are won or lost by players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGuerreiro 252 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Well, Jose is fine, certainly one of the best. Games are won or lost by players.United won the PL last season without a doubt because of Ferguson, their squad was nowhere near the quality of Man City in my opinion. Don't underestimate the influence from the manager. No matter who we sign, Mourinho will be our "signing of the season". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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