The Next Manager?

[Gundalf 804]

A fact that we should also consider is experience. We have so many players with little to no PL experience in our squad that need more experienced players to guide them. Thiago will go into his last season, a lot of the more experienced players will leave the club in the summer. Not a lot of players will be over 23.

And Rice, even tho hes still quite young, has a lot of PL experience - over 200 PL games, 41 games for England, compared to the 27 of Lavia and 31 of Caicedo. I think we should search for more experience in certain areas (especially midfield), a succesfull team is a team with a good mixture.

Rice has more PL games than Lavia, Caicedo, Colwill, Chalobah, Mudryk, Madueke, Felix, Badiashile, Enzo, Chukwuemeka and D. Fofana have COMBINED😂

 

14 minutes ago, Jype said:

He can stay fit, yes.

Damn yes:

Edited May 16, 2023 by Gundalf

[NikkiCFC 8,058]

Our players won't like him. 

 

[LAM09 6,783]

2 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Our players won't like him. 

 

Same thing came to my mind after watching this video. If Boehly doesn't put an end to player power at this club, we might be looking for another manager before Christmas.

[NikkiCFC 8,058]

26 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Same thing came to my mind after watching this video. If Boehly doesn't put an end to player power at this club, we might be looking for another manager before Christmas.

Yep, especially considering Potter was giving them 2 days off after defeat. 

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

 

[Pizy 18,419]

Where is this announcement? Everyone briefed that it was done last Friday and said it would be announced early the next week.

Well?

[OneMoSalah 8,785]

Be 2024 by the time they announce Poch. 

[chelsea_4_eva 1,160]

Well some of our players need a kick up the backside. I think the players won't have a problem with the training regime, as long as results are going our way. If not, then they might feel like "what is the point".

[ZAPHOD2319 4,519]

Signing today

 

[Tomo 21,733]

22 hours ago, Pizy said:

Where is this announcement? Everyone briefed that it was done last Friday and said it would be announced early the next week.

Well?

Am I the only one who really doesn't care?

When something is so clearly happening given all the smoke that's enough for me, I reserve my stress for deals with genuine jeopardy attached like Enzo's saga.

Edited May 19, 2023 by Tomo

[Pizy 18,419]

14 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Am I the only one who really doesn't care?

When something is so clearly happening given all the smoke that's enough for me, I reserve my stress for deals with genuine jeopardy attached like Enzo's saga.

Oh, I’m not stressed or worried. Just puzzled as to what’s taking so long to announce it. I was expecting it Tuesday at the latest.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,519]

6 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Oh, I’m not stressed or worried. Just puzzled as to what’s taking so long to announce it. I was expecting it Tuesday at the latest.

If they can drag it out far enough you will not have fans clamoring for Poch to take over before July 1st. I really do not want to see him take over before they trim the squad. 

[DH1988 1,310]

As a baseline I’m not fussed if he wins anything, if he can get this young squad firing and integrated in the next two years to where Spurs were, I’d be happy with us returning back to the ruthless model of having someone else to take that jump, if he’s not capable.

Watched a clip recently of Rickie Lambert on fitness under Poch, he’ll either get us firing or he will lose the players.

One real concern for me has and will always be losing the Rudi’s and the Jorgi’s, not because he’s some world class CB or CM, he can be under the right system, but day to day leaders like that. 

[Superblue 6,372]

1 hour ago, DH1988 said:

As a baseline I’m not fussed if he wins anything, if he can get this young squad firing and integrated in the next two years to where Spurs were, I’d be happy with us returning back to the ruthless model of having someone else to take that jump, if he’s not capable.

Watched a clip recently of Rickie Lambert on fitness under Poch, he’ll either get us firing or he will lose the players.

One real concern for me has and will always be losing the Rudi’s and the Jorgi’s, not because he’s some world class CB or CM, he can be under the right system, but day to day leaders like that. 

I see similarities between Poch and Ranieri in terms of rebuilding the squad with a younger contingent and in turn overseeing the development of these players and their growth into leaders within the squad themselves. 

Ranieri was given the keys that first season to see if he could take that next level and couldn't. If Poch can stabilise the club for the next couple of years where we're back in the top 4 and challenging for trophies, whilst overseeing the development of a lot of younger players, he'll be given the opportunity to see if he can take that next level with us of winning the league back. I feel if the first bit is done right, he'll be given ample chance to prove his credentials in that regard - the owners showed more than enough patience with Potter to suggest Poch will be afforded time so long as we're not struggling in mid table again.

Regarding the loss of dressing room leaders, I would agree but I think Poch will put a lot of emphasis on some of the younger boys at the club stepping up and filling that void like he did at Spurs. Players like James and Mount (if he stays) are at a stage now where they should be taking on more responsibility within the dressing room. 

[Magic Lamps 11,668]

I have not especially cared too much for Poch during his time at Spuds and PSG. He appeared decent enough building that reasonable Spuds generation. At PSG he did not win anything that had not been expected. What I read about his mentality, methods and also his overall CV he looks a lot like a poor man's Tuchel. We will obviously not win any titles anytime soon but maybe he can do what he did at Spuds and at least built a new spine and get us back to CL. Over there, he took players with a limited skillset like Moura, Walker-Peters, sissoko, winks and made them into pretty usable players and he took talented players like Walker, Kane, Son to wc level or at least have them perform at their highes tpossible level for the time he was there like Dele alli, vertonghen, alderweireld. Overall, Spuds are still drawing on those evolutionary but ultimately fruitless Poch years. Let's hope he can achieve something similar and built the foundation for someone to bring back a winning mentality to this club.

[Vegetable 830]

I love how in 6 months the club has degraded to pre-Roman times. It pretty much comes down to "Sack Tuchel, then spend hundreds of millions and three years to get to halfway to the level we were under Tuchel". We had our laugh with GP and "vision" bullshit, but with all the money spent and players shifting I expect nothing less, than being fixed top 4 from the first game.

Edited May 20, 2023 by Vegetable

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Another day without a manager 😁

[Vesper 29,022]

7 hours ago, Vegetable said:

I love how in 6 months the club has degraded to pre-Roman times. It pretty much comes down to "Sack Tuchel, then spend hundreds of millions and three years to get to halfway to the level we were under Tuchel". We had our laugh with GP and "vision" bullshit, but with all the money spent and players shifting I expect nothing less, than being fixed top 4 from the first game.

we were playing like shit under Tuchel when he was sacked, and he has been fairly poor at Bayern