MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 1 minute ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: They must pay his contract until he takes another job. I think they tried to come to a compensation package for him and he refused to negotiate. I think he was left on gardening leave for a set period, to which we would need to pay off the remaining amount should we employ him. Vegetable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 39 minutes ago, manpe said: Sorry if this has been asked or discussed before, but I can't be bothered to read all unread replies... So can somebody explain to me why we need to pay compensation if Nagelsmann was fired and is currently unemployed? Yeah, just as above, I guess he isn't unemployed and wasn't actually fired, but relieved from his duty with the team, yet still on Bayern's payroll. Not that it makes their negotiation position super strong, but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 According to Forbes - Bayern offloaded Nagelsmann because a) it was heading for a trophyless season b) Fell out with Neuer and had a public slanging match with him c) Lost the dressing room with his 30 year old girlfriend writing about the team for Bild and his 'young' lifestyle with fake implant eyebrows 🤨 xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gundalf said: Enrique ist just too stubborn and inflexible. He always plays his little 4-3-3 and if the players dont fit his system, he is clueless. He is a one trick pony. He plays with other formation, like 3 in the back. He does have a certain style, and won’t compromise on players that don’t suit his system. I don’t see anything wrong with that. It has worked out quite well for the team that is dominating English football over the past few years. Boehly and his team are adamant about what they are doing is going to be succesful, but given how this season has panned out maybe they should reconsider and put a manager in charge who lead the direction. Edited April 19, 2023 by Clockwork didi007 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Vegetable said: Yeah, just as above, I guess he isn't unemployed and wasn't actually fired, but relieved from his duty with the team, yet still on Bayern's payroll. Not that it makes their negotiation position super strong, but still. Considering Tuchels performance atm they might consider to reinstall Nagelsmann again 🤣 Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,720 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 Poch or Emery for me. Both play pleasing football, and this is a Chelsea forum so naturally we will shit on anything Spurs related, but the fact he got that Spurs team to the CL final is super impressive. xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,494 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 Club seems to be looking for another yes-man and Enrique and Nagelsmann both don't fit the bill I can see them going to Poch Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 I wouldn't mind Poch, to be honest. Used to hate the idea and I remember being terrified that it could happen, just after Tuchel was sacked. But he is passionate, can work with youth and what happened to Spurs after he left shows that he was basically underrated. I am not sure if he can win stuff with us, but at this point I have no hope of winning trophies for the next two years at least. Top 4 would be great and maybe some sort of good run in the domestic cups. We need someone to build. Maybe Poch can lay a foundation for someone else that could take over an already solidified team that will just need to be taken to the next level. manpe and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,494 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 Poch is having his discussions with the owners. Fernando and xPetrCechx 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Clockwork 1,794 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 JN is one of the best attacking managers, gets a lot out of his attackers. It will be day and night difference between him and Tuchel/Potter/Lampard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Clockwork said: JN is one of the best attacking managers, gets a lot out of his attackers. It will be day and night difference between him and Tuchel/Potter/Lampard. He had Werner scoring like Halaand that deserves an honour of itself. He had Nkunku firing and many other players doing soo well under his management.. Clockwork 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, DDA said: He had Werner scoring like Halaand that deserves an honour of itself. He had Nkunku firing and many other players doing soo well under his management.. Fulham Broadway, Blue Armour and DDA 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted April 20, 2023 Popular Post! Share Posted April 20, 2023 We want someone who can switch to anger and passion -vital at certain situations. Potter, Lampard nor Pochettino have this quality, if they get Poch so obvious they want a compliant Yes man = more mediocrity with a slightly higher win rate. No thanks. Strike, chelsea_4_eva, robsblubot and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 2 real managers with different footballing ideas -- nothing wrong with that. No qualms having and implementing a long-term project, just pick someone players can listen to and trust for starters. It's not that hard. 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: We want someone who can switch to anger and passion -vital at certain situations. Potter, Lampard nor Pochettino have this quality, if they get Poch so obvious they want a compliant Yes man = more mediocrity with a slightly higher win rate. No thanks. Whilst Poch is a good coach, you’ve hit nail on the head. A yes man. Makes sense, even more when you consider why Enriques apparently been moved down this list of “managerial targets” we have. Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 (edited) really worrying if true, https://www.yardbarker.com/soccer/articles/uncovered_chelsea_owner_boehly_sacked_tuchel_after_being_denied_locker_room_entry/s1_17172_38720662 I hope folks understand what the issue is: owners have zero sway with players, because they have no knowledge of the game, and can't really control players wages (contracts!). All they can do is tweak bonuses and whatnot, which can be tricky to do (counter-productive to say the least). At this level players can move on to a different club earning comparable wages on a whim. The power is with the players... even against owners. Edited April 20, 2023 by robsblubot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 (edited) For the few of you that understand German: here is a in-depth analysis from Nagelsmann about his tactics and philosophy. What I can tell u after watching it: its 16 minutes long and he never uses one of these phrases like "we want to play attacking football" or "we want to have possession" or all this usual superficial football talk. Its pure tactics. This guy is a fucking football and tactic nerd, knows everything about the game. And this is also his biggest weakness. He is way too intelligent and systematic for his players. Lets be honest, the majority of football players arent the sharpest knifes in the drawer. Most need clear, simple instructions without spinning their heads. And ig this is why he failed at Bayern, he basically confused his players by his complicated take on football. So on paper, he could really transform us into a tactical monster, IF he can get his message across. Tbh I dont know if it will work, but the potential is huge. Edited April 20, 2023 by Gundalf Fulham Broadway, Vegetable and Blue Armour 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdlk 286 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 He failed at Bayern? With what he failed?? Won vs PSG and i think would have done better vs City or finished 2cnd in German league? kexik 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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