LAM09 7,067 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, Gundalf said: Owners should stop paying the players till they start winning. This mess is on them. If they actually want to do something worthwhile, sack the non-league interim. Johnnyeye, OneMoSalah, Laylabelle and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, Johnnyeye said: maybe the real problem is the players who are simply ass I disagree. To me, the problem is clearly the coaching. Sure, some players are not good enough, but not to the point that the whole team is suddenly relegation material and by far the worst team in EPL. The owners fucked up majorly with manager appointments. It's no coincidence that this total capitulation happens right after owner change. It's on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Just now, LAM09 said: This mess is on them. If they actually want to do something worthwhile, sack the non-league interim. Players were shit under Tuchel and Potter as well. Players were shit the whole season, from the start. Never forget that Zagreb game, that was as shitty as this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, whats happening said: he was always solid, and yet barely plays. blows my mind some of the decisions about the gametime. same with chuku, fofana and other players. Badiashile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,887 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gundalf said: Players were shit under Tuchel and Potter as well. Players were shit the whole season, from the start. Never forget that Zagreb game, that was as shitty as this one. We weren't that bad though under Tuchel in particular, there was a lot more individual or unforced errors that cost us. Now its just a full blown shambles, confidence is gone, nothing goes for them, tactics are a mess, team selections a mess. Everything. Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 1 minute ago, OneMoSalah said: We weren't that bad though under Tuchel in particular, there was a lot more individual or unforced errors that cost us. Now its just a full blown shambles, confidence is gone, nothing goes for them, tactics are a mess, team selections a mess. Everything. Under Tuchel you saw little glimpses of improvement..since then it's leaps backwards. We have no spark. No system. No identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: We weren't that bad though under Tuchel in particular, there was a lot more individual or unforced errors that cost us. Now its just a full blown shambles, confidence is gone, nothing goes for them, tactics are a mess, team selections a mess. Everything. Ofc not THAT bad, bc it was the start of the season and there were things to play for so they had somewhat of a desire to perform. But still then they were shit. And now, since these guys have no thrive at all and there is nothing to play for, they just perform like in a training game. As I said before, there is no point in coming with some fancy new tactics at this stage of the season, these players wont do it anyway. They just want the season to be over. Edited April 26, 2023 by Gundalf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,961 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Lose against Forest and we are in big fucking trouble. Big trouble. We could actually go down and then we will be the biggest laughing stock in football... the biggest flop of all time... It would outdo all of The Yiddos years of serial flopping. This is about to get seriously nasty between the fans and owners. Johnnyeye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,511 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Just now, DDA said: Lose against Forest and we are in big fucking trouble. Big trouble. We could actually go down and then we will be the biggest laughing stock in football... the biggest flop of all time... It would outdo all of The Yiddos years of serial flopping. This is about to get seriously nasty between the fans and owners. Boehly and co need reminding that this is not like the NBA where you get a lottery pick if you finish at the bottom. DDA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEREIAM 83 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 1 minute ago, DDA said: Lose against Forest and we are in big fucking trouble. Big trouble. We could actually go down and then we will be the biggest laughing stock in football... the biggest flop of all time... It would outdo all of The Yiddos years of serial flopping. This is about to get seriously nasty between the fans and owners. Fortunately we won’t go down even if we lose all our games, if we win one more game it will be away to Arsenal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,624 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, Cosmin said: Badiashile yeah, thats an another wtf. why was he banished out of nowhere when he played pretty good. fucking cucurella getting more playing time than him its really something. maybe some stuff going on behind the scenes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEREIAM 83 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Can’t wait for Fat Franks interview, if the owners have anything abou them they will sack mr 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, HEREIAM said: Fortunately we won’t go down even if we lose all our games, if we win one more game it will be away to Arsenal What?! How?! We can't score a goal. Arsenal are patchy but they will win for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,238 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 (edited) even on 39 at the end, it is very hard for us to be relegated 40 is the magic number to do it if we end on 39 (as all the other teams GD is so shit, even if we end up at sat negavute 10-15 the following is all based on is at 39 points at seasons end Forest can get to 40 if they beat us, it would not take and true upsets after that at all (unless you count a draw at Brentford) I assume they lose to Arse, if they beat arse and us, they COULD well go above us on 40 or more Bournemouth, as long as the beat us, has an excellent chance to hit 40 then the 4 teams that likely save us from relegation Leeds is likely fucked, almost no chance at 40. we so need them to beat Bournemouth as their other 4 games are brutal AF: Citeh, NUFC, West Ham, and Spuds) so that is one team for sure (almost) under us Leicester will have to upset either NUFC or Pool (and win the other 3, including Everton, see below) to get to 40 or more, if they beat both Pool and NUFC and then lose to Everton and win the rst, we are in real trouble potential (and see below) Southampton is very likely fucked, they would have to win 5 and draw the 6th to hit 40 and they play NUFC, Fulham, Pool, and Brighton Everton have to win 4 of 6 to get to 40, and they have to play NUFC, Brighton, and Citeh, so even if they beat Leicester, they are likely fucked I would say, atm, that (IF we fail to take another point from any of the relegation level teams) for sure SOTON are going down likely Leeds and I will say Leicester (especially if Everton beat them) Edited April 26, 2023 by Vesper manpe, Costa19 and Johnnyeye 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 What is so completely hard to understand is the non existent planning for the future when we are in this situation. Why dont we play the players for the future? Where is Badashile? Why do you sub Mudryk on when we are 1 behind and Brentford will back down in to a low block defence? Why dont we play him from the beginning? He isnt more shit than Sterling or Gallagher or whofuckever we play. Why dont we play Madueke? Instead we sub them on when we are losing and the rest of the teams heads are on their way home already. Its so frustrating and useless planning for the future. Do we really think: Auba Mudryk Sterling Madueke Enzo Kante Would perform worser then what we saw in the first half today? And yes, Mudryk/Madueke maybe wont ever make it in Chelsea but ATLEAST they would try their best and show some spirit. But maybe maybe they could pick up some form and getting used to the league and carry that on in to the next season with a competent manager to help them unleash their potential. manpe, Vesper and Johnnyeye 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! manpe 10,861 Posted April 26, 2023 Popular Post! Share Posted April 26, 2023 1 minute ago, whats happening said: yeah, thats an another wtf. why was he banished out of nowhere when he played pretty good. fucking cucurella getting more playing time than him its really something. maybe some stuff going on behind the scenes... The Silva and Badiashile pairing was the best part of our season. We suddenly started looking more solid at the back. Then all of a sudden they were almost never played together again and we fell to shit. All this unnecessary chopping and changing did not do us any favours. Towards the end Potter was finally finding a settled team that even managed 3 wins in a row, but Lampard, instead of building on that, completely changed everything... I was hoping a bit that he would just take that settled team over from Potter and motivate the players to do better, but instead he thinks he's some tactical genius with this 3-5-1-1 nonsense. Strike, Costa19, OneMoSalah and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimmas 131 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, whats happening said: he was always solid, and yet barely plays. blows my mind some of the decisions about the gametime. same with chuku, fofana and other players. True. And their spot just taken by player like sterling, gallagher, chalobah which they aren't just mediocre player, but also currently in ridiculously really poor performance. One thing that absolutely mind boggling me is why lampard keep choose bizarre lineup. I don't even expect this shit from lampard. Field 9 defensive player. Field sterling as false nine for numerous times. No winger. Hardly give some proper chance for our young player thay gives some little promise to our future. Suddenly lampard keep choosing the worst possible lineup Edited April 26, 2023 by dimmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,104 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Frank is just not a manager. Probably a useful coach. Potter was a different class. NikkiCFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, Vesper said: even on 39 at the end, it is very hard for us to be relegated 40 is the magic number to do it if we end on 39 (as all the other teams GD is so shit, even if we end up at sat negavute 10-15 the following is all based on is at 39 points at seasons end Forest can get to 40 if they beat us, it would not take and true upsets after that at all (unless you count a draw at Brentford) I assume they lose to Arse, if they beat arse and us, they COULD well go above us on 40 or more Bournemouth, as long as the beat us, has an excellent chance to hit 40 then the 4 teams that likely save us from relegation Leeds is likely fucked, almost no chance at 40. we so need to beat Bournemouth there other 4 games are brutal AF: Citeh, NUFC, West Ham, and Spuds) so that is one team for sure (almost) under us Leicester will have to upset either NUFC or Pool (and win the other 3, including Everton, see below) to get to 40 or more, if they beat both Pool and NUFC and then lose to Everton and win the rst, we are in real trouble potential (and see below) Southampton is very likely fucked, they would have to win 5 and draw the 6th to hit 40 and they play NUFC, Fulham, Pool, and Brighton Everton have to win 4 of 6 to get to 40, and they have to play NUFC, Brighton, and Citeh, so even if they beat Leicester, they are likely fucked I would say, atm, that (IF we fail to take another point from any of the relegation level teams) for sure SOTON are going down likely Leeds and I will say Leicester (especially if Everton beat them) As you've pointed out, we're likely to just about stay up on the basis of teams below us just running out of games, but besides from the bottom 5, the other teams below us will almost certainly pick a few more points up between now and the end of the season and as a result could very easily go above us. I believe in the last 14-15 league games, we have the worst record in the whole league. That's how pathetic the current situation is. Hopefully the teams below us drop a few more points over the next 2 - 3 games and do our job for us, because IF there became a situation where we could still be caught with 2 or 3 games left, the whole situation around the club could become beyond toxic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,067 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Gundalf said: Players were shit under Tuchel and Potter as well. Players were shit the whole season, from the start. Never forget that Zagreb game, that was as shitty as this one. Did you look at today's line up? This goes beyond players. Sterling & Gallagher V Brentford!? I needn't say more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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