Graham Potter Thread

[didi007 69]

21 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

Another reason why Arsenal winning the league doesn't do us any favors - the owners probably keep looking at Arteta as the reason why Potter should be given a chance. Hell, Potter kept saying it himself in press conferences., to make excuses for his terrible performance. 

Arteta won 2 cups in his first year and was a former player, knew the culture of Arsenal. I dont know why he is used as a reference point cos Potter is mediocre and not winning anything in the near future (ten years)

[milka 3,390]

 

[Thor 2,685]

6 minutes ago, milka said:

 

Good to hear. 

 

People here are spoilt and a bit in their feels at the moment. Like DDA said above - you have to appreciate coming in and trying to take things on your way. Reality is - they are successful at what they do and making successful teams. 

We have bitched and moaned throughout the Roman era that the football wasn't pretty, we never gave the youngsters a go, and that we have no real continuity and identity... Well, we are trying now, and this is what it takes. Some rough times and growing pains. 

"Fans" here act like we are going through the worst of the worst. Reality is; we are not all that far removed from winning the club world cup, a CL title, and we have done some fantastic business for great young talents. We have some players that aren't cutting it right now like KK, Cucu and others, but we have signed promising talents. This is no different to any other team, aside from the fact I would say we are talent stacked heading into next season bar a striker. 

 

Potter was a mistake, but it seems they are ready to try a different approach. Give it time. 

[Pizy 18,846]

Arse were also in the mud for like 10 years when they appointed Arteta. They were in the wilderness and a laughing stock. It was easier for the club to go for a rebuild from the ground up and build the team up gradually.

We just recently won the Champions League and have a squad that’s MUCH further along than what Arteta started with. So the expectations from Chelsea supporters were much higher.

Arteta even in his first couple of mediocre seasons at least showed spells of progress and won a couple of minor trophies. Potter’s flashes have been the odd individual match. Nothing sustained.

[Laylabelle 9,534]

17 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Arse were also in the mud for like 10 years when they appointed Arteta. They were in the wilderness and a laughing stock. It was easier for the club to go for a rebuild from the ground up and build the team up gradually.

We just recently won the Champions League and have a squad that’s MUCH further along than what Arteta started with. So the expectations from Chelsea supporters were much higher.

Arteta even in his first couple of mediocre seasons at least showed spells of progress and won a couple of minor trophies. Potter’s flashes have been the odd individual match. Nothing sustained.

That's it. I didn't expect miracles this season and be challenging for anything cause a bit far from it. But didn't expect to be 11th with 28 games played and 10 of those wins but also 10 of those losses..

What's frustrating is just when you see a glimpse of something coming together we take leaps back. Seems the wins are more a fluke then anything!

[gdlk 286]

Comparing with Arteta is BS, at least he was trying to implement his style, his vision of football while Harry Potter whats he doing? Rellying on Tuchel tactics to save your job! Not an inch improvement in all aspect. I think for first time some Chelsea fans will be for Liverpool in next match.. 

[Vegetable 830]

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- Chelsea to 'speak internally' about the situation of Graham Potter to confirm if they still want him or go with a different decision.

Comedy. Where had they been for last 3 months? 

And the Artreta card… a lot of Potter fans use it, but if board is seriously thinking this way… Let's hope they are serious people.

[Vegetable 830]

51 minutes ago, Thor said:

We have bitched and moaned throughout the Roman era that the football wasn't pretty, we never gave the youngsters a go, and that we have no real continuity and identity... Well, we are trying now, and this is what it takes. Some rough times and growing pains. 

Are we tho? I know people like to see it this way, but we are switching personel and ideas non-stop, buying youngsters and actually playing youngsters is not the same (GP played youth when he was absolutely forced to) and the team seems way too clueless and depressed to play "beautiful football". Most of the fundamental change that people like and use to defend the current situation exist only in theory I'm afraid.

Hell, I'd even not bash Potter on the wired shit he had pulled yesterday as it's at least a sign of him doing something, instead of hanging for dear life and saying it's the "vision".

[Vytis33 1,261]

 

[lucio 5,418]

For fuck sake , sack the useless clown already 

[lucio 5,418]

Probably going to end up costing us some ballers like kovacic and Felix. We are basically throwing the champions league by not sacking him. We need to assure the players of our future by not accepting mediocrity because it happens to be English 

[Blue Armour 4,436]

Brendan Rodgers gone.

[manpe 10,861]

Can't believe what I'm witnessing with Chelsea this season. They hire a nobody on a long contract for big money and then when that nobody very predictably fails, they don't do anything about it because of the fat contract given to said nobody.

Boehly and Eghbali are clowns and not the funny kind. Fucking idiots both of them.

[Tomo 21,751]

1 hour ago, gdlk said:

Comparing with Arteta is BS, at least he was trying to implement his style, his vision of football 

This rewritting of history with Arteta's early spell is absolutely scandalous. Arsenal looked utterly shit for his first couple of years even accounting for the cup. Not only were the results poor he was getting compared to Tony Pulis because the football they were playing was so bad. 

All their metrics before this season were that of a midtable team or worse, for example they were 17th(!!) on big chances created as recently as last season.

https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/clubs/big_chance_created?se=418

[lucio 5,418]

36 minutes ago, Tomo said:

This rewritting of history with Arteta's early spell is absolutely scandalous. Arsenal looked utterly shit for his first couple of years even accounting for the cup. Not only were the results poor he was getting compared to Tony Pulis because the football they were playing was so bad. 

All their metrics before this season were that of a midtable team or worse, for example they were 17th(!!) on big chances created as recently as last season.

https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/clubs/big_chance_created?se=418

Still came 5th , we are 11th with more money spent than they can dream of. Arteta at his worst pisses on potters Chelsea career

[Tomo 21,751]

6 minutes ago, lucio said:

Still came 5th , we are 11th with more money spent than they can dream of. Arteta at his worst pisses on potters Chelsea career

Less shit is still shit.

The idea that Arteta's Arsenal were showing big signs of cooking from day one is such utter bullshit I barely even know even know where to begin.

[lucio 5,418]

6 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Less shit is still shit.

The idea that Arteta's Arsenal were showing big signs of cooking from day one is such utter bullshit I barely even know even know where to begin.

I agree there. A lot of their fanbase wanted him fired and he probably only kept his job on the back of the fa cup win.

[manpe 10,861]

This Arteta talk is pissing me off, when Potter brought it up himself I was in disbelief. Look, just because you can bring ONE example, doesn't mean that exception will become the norm. Doesn't mean that every manager who's shit in the beginning will turn into gold. And as has been pointed out previously, statistically Arteta wasn't nearly as bad Potter's Chelsea have been. Plus he won a cup, winning something for a struggling club matters, no matter how big or small. He proved he could win early on, Potter is not going to do that. Also, having watched All for Nothing Arsenal, it was clear that Arteta has great motivational skills and is respected by the players. I would love to see how Potter tries to motivate his players, but looking at his pressers, probably it wouldn't be most inspiring.