Graham Potter Thread

[DDA 9,924]

Lose against Leeds and we are in a relegation battle. I cannot believe this guy hasn't been sacked yet. Todd B needs to take his head out of his ass and bring in somebody with gravitas before It's too late. If we go down into the Championship after spending 600m we will always be remembered for it... and If you think this talk of a relegation battle is nonsense... you need to give your head a wobble if you don't agree after watching our last 3/4 performances..... we are fucking horrible.... I would even say we are the worse team in the league... we can't attack for shit. Its beyond embarrassing already.. I'm still fucking fuming at what I was watching yesterday vs Spurs. 

 

 

[Blue Armour 4,436]

2 hours ago, DDA said:

Lose against Leeds and we are in a relegation battle. I cannot believe this guy hasn't been sacked yet. Todd B needs to take his head out of his ass and bring in somebody with gravitas before It's too late. If we go down into the Championship after spending 600m we will always be remembered for it... and If you think this talk of a relegation battle is nonsense... you need to give your head a wobble if you don't agree after watching our last 3/4 performances..... we are fucking horrible.... I would even say we are the worse team in the league... we can't attack for shit. Its beyond embarrassing already.. I'm still fucking fuming at what I was watching yesterday vs Spurs. 

 

 

Based on the form in last 5 games, we ARE the worst team in the league.

Only team besides Palace without a win, and even they have one less defeat compared to us.

[Vesper 30,085]

6 hours ago, DDA said:

If we go down into the Championship after spending 600m we will always be remembered for it...

that would EASILY be the biggest collapse in football history

up until 16 days ago we were still the reigning FIFA global club champions

up until 9 months ago we were the reigning CL champions

if FIFA had not rammed in more old style FIFA World Club Cup tournaments before the new style starts in a couple years (they changed their minds as the 2022 (played in early 2023 due to the WC) edition was not originally scheduled), we would STILL be reigning world champions

imagine us relegated and playing in the fucking 2nd tier English Championship with that damn world champions badge on!

not to mention the over £600m new signing spend in just the last 8 or so months!

nothing like it has ever happened in top flight football history

not even close

it would be damn near club destroying for ages, as the revenue loss would force us to liquidate huge chunks of the team or we would be banned for violating FFP

FUCK

 

Edited February 27, 2023 by Vesper

[Blue Armour 4,436]

All his press conferences somehow showcase some form of self-pity.

This time he at least accepted full responsibility for the loss, but then he goes on to bring up comparisons with Arteta and Klopp (and not the first time. He started when we faced Arsenal this season).

Instead of spurring the team on, and saying that they need to be a lot better than they are, he moans about how difficult the situation is with injuries and new transfers, and how tough the 'moment' is. Some of these are true, but why adopt a defeatist attitude? No wonder his team are in the bottom of the form table. He's probably sucked the confidence out of the players. 

He's basically kicking the can down the road., and the worst part is - I'm not sure he could improve the situation even if he tried.

[Strike 7,474]

Boehly and Co have badly misread the European football environment. They’ve come in, treated players like cattle (like in American sports you can trade players against their will) and given a young unproven coach a long contract.
 

In American leagues you can do this but in football, the club will get financially punished for it finishing below 4th. 

[Blue Armour 4,436]

It's possible that Boehly & Co. are thinking that a single win will get us going., and are just patiently waiting for that. I guess they never imagined that they'd have to wait this long.

[Alabama 1,992]

Can we bring some cfc women players into the first team - Kerr and James...Oh never mind Potter would transform them into shit players after playing couple of games...

[Laylabelle 9,534]

2 hours ago, Strike said:

Boehly and Co have badly misread the European football environment. They’ve come in, treated players like cattle (like in American sports you can trade players against their will) and given a young unproven coach a long contract.
 

In American leagues you can do this but in football, the club will get financially punished for it finishing below 4th. 

Especially as we look set for 11th or 10th as things stand...

[nyikolajevics 2,690]

8 hours ago, milka said:

 

Ziyech from almost sold to permanent  start   in every game without  reason .

 

It's a madness. Nowadays we have 1 game per week. Ziyech starts them, while 100 million pounds(Mudryk and Madueke) sit on the bench. This week, they combined played 10 minutes. Ridiculous..

Even before this game, it was clear we are not making top 4.. Then why not build next year team? Start Ziyech who is clearly on his way out and benching new players. 

[King Kante 1,643]

The owners really need to get a grip on this situation. It all looks a bit toxic atm. If this isn't sorted soon e.g. Potter being replaced,  then this form will continue into next season. 

Edited February 27, 2023 by King Kante

[Superblue 6,372]

1 hour ago, nyikolajevics said:

 

It's a madness. Nowadays we have 1 game per week. Ziyech starts them, while 100 million pounds (Mudryk and Madueke) sit on the bench. This week, they combined played 10 minutes. Ridiculous..

Even before this game, it was clear we are not making top 4.. Then why not build next year team? Start Ziyech who is clearly on his way out and benching new players. 

He either needs to decide on short term just getting some results, or he steadfastly works towards the long term build which clearly wouldn't include players like Ziyech who was on his way out in January. Same with Auba, who now seems to be potentially back in the fold.

Mixing and matching is just leaving us in limbo. There might be a bit more patience if it was clear we'd moved on from some players and were focusing on the players that will be here next season and beyond but that isn't the case, which just compounds the frustration.

If we just need to settle everything down and worry for now about getting some results short term then for me the clearest option for that would be to revert back to a back 3 now we have most of our squad back fit. I watched United yesterday and a couple of times recently and they play to their strengths - quick, direct transitions on the counter attack. It helps that Rashford is in the form of his life, but I look at the likes of Sterling and Mudryk and there's no reason why we couldn't look sometimes to encourage a team on to us a little more and look to play in behind. We're not playing to the strengths of some of the players we have. When it takes 20 passes and 5 minutes to get the ball to one of our attackers and we wonder why they suddenly can't beat a couple of players instead of playing quicker and isolating opposition defenders. 

[Special Juan 28,095]

6 changes again yesterday and we are wondering why things are a mess- On the how fuck he keeps picking Ziyech who was basically gone in January but for the fuck up of the club says it all

[Pizy 18,850]

How in the hell have I woken up the next day to see Potter is still in the job? Is Boehly going to wait until we’re in real, serious danger before acting?

There is still time under a new manager to salvage something from this nightmare of a season and get Europa League football next year if that’s something the ownership desires. But if we continue on with this manager nothing is going to change.

[Special Juan 28,095]

4 hours ago, Alabama said:

Can we bring some cfc women players into the first team - Kerr and James...Oh never mind Potter would transform them into shit players after playing couple of games...

The women would beat us

[Vegetable 830]

I'd really like someone to explain me the argument that "Potter is building for future" stands in opposition of " getting results now". I mean… wtf is he supposedly building here? The only sign of "build" is absolute lack of mentality seen in players and worryingly deterioration of some of world's greatest talent.

No chemistry, no particular system, no particular style of play, getting tactically battered against even lowest-ranking opposition, same squad, where people eyeing for exit are starters, desperate changing things around… Youth was only played when GP was absolutely forced to do so. It doesn't look like "developing" anything for shit. What is not surprising giving Potter's history - pushing group of low-level players to achieve lower-mid-level of game is entirely different beast, than managing elite club rebuild.

Where is that "great eye for talent" that was supposed to cover his lack of ability? Our coaching staff doesn't really look like providing the top training in league tbh, let alone the kindergarten level of tactical sophistication we present now. 

Not to mention Potter's media presence is utterly frustrating, with him being super cocky and arrogant only when it comes to defend his incompetence, not where it would be actually be welcomed.

Aside of lack of elite manager on the market bar Tuchel, I'm seriously starting to think that Boehly is trying to view football through baseball glasses - in "american" sports teams are relying on individual talent far more and manager may actually be somewhat superficial figure. But he had enough time to notice it doesn't quite work cause' getting mid-table manager is giving you mid-table results, no shit, how came, and "removing player power" is bs idea in top team. I'd also really like to know how Boehly sees forcing sub-par, non-likeable manager having nothing to do with Chelsea, without any achievements and on a good way to ruin the club on fans for years to come as a great move sport and PR wise. I wonder why he didn't go for Bielsa, as given this line of thought, his Leicester campaign makes him greatest manager in history of sport.

At this point I'd have nothing against appointing U21 staff as caretakers. At least our academy staff is able to win games, you know. 

Edited February 27, 2023 by Vegetable