King Kante 1,643 Posted January 9, 2024 Share Posted January 9, 2024 19 hours ago, Mário César said: I think this makes sense. VO is a good CF but he won't fit here. The reason I say this is because he is a bit of a throw back forward in that he is at his best when he is constantly being crossed balls to the back post. His hold up play is also OK, if not quite elite. However, he is poor with the ball at his feet outside of striking the ball towards goal with his favoured foot. He isn't the type of player that you can play one twos with or take on CB's with dribbling skills. For sure, if we decided to go long ball football and teams start stepping up against us he would fit. However, I don't see that happening anytime soon - although I appriciate if goes to a West Ham or someone similar he will likely put up good stats. Our problem at CF is that we need a Pipo/Crespo/Villa type of forward that can link play and has really good off the ball movement to find the space in the box (as well as can finish.) To me, my if I could pick anyone (outside of Häland) it would be Alvarez however City won't be selling him anytime soon. Maybe there is some forward in South America who fits the bill, but we literally need a forward like that or a unicorn like Häland. Spending serious dosh on VO imo leads to banter memes three months in because he doesn't fit the system. 19 hours ago, Vytis33 said: Hope he does well and we can sell for a nice return. Just doesn’t fit here right now Which or the foreign lone players are coming back? My money is on Ziyech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 9, 2024 Share Posted January 9, 2024 On 08/01/2024 at 06:43, TheHulk said: Get Dybala until something better shows up. An attacking midfielder/second striker? Again like Nkunku, not a proper CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,421 Posted January 9, 2024 Share Posted January 9, 2024 2 hours ago, King Kante said: Our problem at CF is that we need a Pipo/Crespo/Villa type of forward that can link play and has really good off the ball movement to find the space in the box (as well as can finish.) To me, my if I could pick anyone (outside of Häland) it would be Alvarez however City won't be selling him anytime soon. Maybe there is some forward in South America who fits the bill, but we literally need a forward like that or a unicorn like Häland. I think Lois Openda would be ideal for what we are looking for in that Alvarez mold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 9, 2024 Share Posted January 9, 2024 Chelsea report: £80-100m Lautaro Martinez bid to be ACCEPTED, as Blues seek clinical world-class striker Chelsea can sign the superstar striker that they crave this month, with a monster bid of £86m deemed enough to take Lautaro Martinez to England https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/Chelsea-transfer-news-report-pound80-100m-lautaro-martinez-bid-to-be-accepted-as-blues-seek-clinical-world-class-striker-lautaro-martinez-inter-milan-signings-rumours-gossip-paper-talk-cfc Chelsea have been told they can end their long-awaited search for a clinical No.9 by signing Lautaro Martinez this month. The Blues splashed out £100 million on Martinez's partner from Inter Milan's last Scudetto win in 2021, Romelu Lukaku, when Thomas Tuchel thought he had the missing jigsaw piece for his puzzle that summer. The Belgian is now on loan at Roma, however, having gone back to the San Siro on loan in between. Now, Inter have indicated that Martinez is for sale for the right price, too, with Chelsea still struggling for goals a whole two-and-a-half years later, having signed the likes of Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang and Nicolas Jackson in the interim. Transfer insider Dean Jones has written for SportsLens that World Cup-winning forward Martinez is a target for the west Londoners – and that a Premier League move would appeal to him. Over the 26-year-old has previously been linked with a host of English sides, primarily Arsenal and Tottenham, with the Nerazzurri reticent to consider offers. Jones claims that a bid of between £80 and £100 million would be enough to turn heads, however, though he admits that even that may not be enough to prevent Martinez from signing a new deal in Lombardy. "Insiders have told SportsLens that while the terms of a new contract with Inter are not complete, it is likely he commits his future to the Italian giants," he says, "But a January bid would throw such a moment into fresh uncertainty. Inter are suffering tricky financial times and have a tendency to cash in on high profile players to improve their situation." The likelihood of Martinez leaving Inter isn't currently high but that could all change in the coming weeks. Chelsea have been known to act quickly on transfers and though there isn't an obvious desire for the Argentine right now, plans could be made depending on Victor Osimhen's chances of going to Stamford Bridge. Martinez is valued at €110m by Transfermarkt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted January 9, 2024 Share Posted January 9, 2024 Please no. No Poch signings. Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 9, 2024 Share Posted January 9, 2024 Chelsea goalkeeper Ted Curd has been recalled from his loan at Hashtag United. https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/article/curd-recalled-from-hashtag-united Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted January 9, 2024 Share Posted January 9, 2024 (edited) On 08/01/2024 at 21:30, Thor said: His goal scoring record outside of that one season is very mid level... And he has done it in very average leagues. Jackson is a better player than him. He is. VO ain't carrying the ball up the field and opening up the game like NJ is. Sure NJ has missed some sitters, but they are more highlighted because of how poor we've been as a club - and those big chances created are very misleading. Sure - some strikers would have put more in the net, but its more so down to return to the mean stuff rather than Jackson as a player. He isn't always going to miss tap ins and that. I'm all for getting another striker, but VO isn't the sure fire thing like Kane and Haaland. Don't need to try and force it IMO. We need a goalscorer, not a ball carrier. The moment you uttered the words, "Jackson is a better player than him," I knew the convo would only end one way. No one is forcing it. He's the best option by a country mile, IMO. 14 hours ago, Blue Armour said: He needs to stop this obsession of round pegs in square holes. Make players play in positions they are meant to play in. Not saying that Cole Palmer cant do a decent job as false 9, and 1-2 players out of position to cover up for squad deficiency is okay, but anything more than that for several games is a bit much. I can't say this enough. Imagine if a more competent player was at LB tonight and Palmer was fielded in his usual position. Poch's persistence in doing the above is a key reason why I want him out at this point. Edited January 9, 2024 by LAM09 Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 9, 2024 Share Posted January 9, 2024 Boniface out for at least 3 months https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/leverkusens-boniface-undergo-surgery-out-months-club-2024-01-09/#:~:text=BERLIN%2C Jan 9 (Reuters),Bundesliga leaders said on Tuesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 9, 2024 Share Posted January 9, 2024 (edited) Chelsea scouting 25-year-old Greek centre forward who’s outscoring Mohamed Salah this season, he wants January exit Chelsea have reportedly set their sights on AZ Alkmaar’s Vangelis Pavlidis. His name may be unfamiliar to English audiences, but he’s a talented forward that is even outscoring Liverpool superstar Mohamed Salah this season. https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/transfer-news/Chelsea-scouting-25-year-old-forward-whos-outscoring-mohamed-salah-this-season-he-wants-january-exit/ Edited January 9, 2024 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 9, 2024 Share Posted January 9, 2024 8 minutes ago, LAM09 said: Imagine if a more competent player was at LB tonight fucking Maatsen turning down Burnley (a £31.5m loan with obligation-to-buy deal) meant we sold: LAM09, lucio and Strike 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 10, 2024 Share Posted January 10, 2024 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Vesper said: fucking Maatsen turning down Burnley (a £31.5m loan with obligation-to-buy deal) meant we sold: But we didn’t sell him and going from most reports a month ago he will be returning in the summer as the buyout clause only becomes an obligation based on his playing time? Where he hasn’t played anywhere near enough? And even then, everyone was so dazzled by Maatsen after one year at Burnley (in the championship FFS) and now think Hall returning may be the answer. Don’t get me wrong he’s talented but he isn’t anywhere near better than Ben or Marc and who is to say he will be? He is another young lad who we have probably all severely overrated as we always do with young kids. Even Santos and Casadei they were some sort of amazing players after a loan spell in Brazil and Reading…. Edited January 10, 2024 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted January 10, 2024 Share Posted January 10, 2024 14 hours ago, King Kante said: Which or the foreign lone players are coming back? My money is on Ziyech. Maatsen is HG U21 (he was 21 when season starts) so he is not taking intl loan spot. King Kante 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,494 Posted January 10, 2024 Share Posted January 10, 2024 8 hours ago, Vesper said: fucking Maatsen turning down Burnley (a £31.5m loan with obligation-to-buy deal) meant we sold: There was no need to sell Hall when they clearly rated him above Maatsen and Cucurella had question marks all over him. This is a problem of the board’s own making Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 10, 2024 Share Posted January 10, 2024 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Strike said: There was no need to sell Hall when they clearly rated him above Maatsen and Cucurella had question marks all over him. This is a problem of the board’s own making Is it just me or did anyone else think Cucurella’s performances under Poch definitely improved a lot compared to last season though? They couldn’t get much worse granted but I don’t believe he all of a sudden is a bad player, even like Caicedo although his price tag is scandalous and he is having an even worse first season than Cucu did so far. Loaning Lewis out to play every week would have been the right thing to do. The loan to Newcastle with buy option is more than likely to fall through unless he meets certain performance criteria, even Eddie Howe has said he doesn’t know if he will be at Newcastle next year. So maybe if he comes back, we find him an actual loan to try develop him instead of thinking about making a profit on him. Another silly decision from the footballing directors and owners (although I think he is a Geordie so maybe was difficult for him not to push for this move also) because he has rarely had a look in for Newcastle really. I don’t think for one minute that currently he is a better option than the LBs we have got right now though (Maatsen not included). And anyone saying he is, they’re just straight up lying. Edited January 10, 2024 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted January 10, 2024 Share Posted January 10, 2024 9 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: But we didn’t sell him and going from most reports a month ago he will be returning in the summer as the buyout clause only becomes an obligation based on his playing time? Where he hasn’t played anywhere near enough? And even then, everyone was so dazzled by Maatsen after one year at Burnley (in the championship FFS) and now think Hall returning may be the answer. Don’t get me wrong he’s talented but he isn’t anywhere near better than Ben or Marc and who is to say he will be? He is another young lad who we have probably all severely overrated as we always do with young kids. Even Santos and Casadei they were some sort of amazing players after a loan spell in Brazil and Reading…. Hall is comfortably better at crossing than both though. Definitely got more potential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted January 10, 2024 Share Posted January 10, 2024 3 minutes ago, lucio said: Hall is comfortably better at crossing than both though. Definitely got more potential He also was making stupid mistakes at LB, that everyone would crucify Colwill and Cucu for doing so. I think people overrated him a little bit - however I know he is still young with plenty of room to improve, but as usual with young players it's a gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,494 Posted January 10, 2024 Share Posted January 10, 2024 Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted January 10, 2024 Share Posted January 10, 2024 49 minutes ago, ulvhedin said: He also was making stupid mistakes at LB, that everyone would crucify Colwill and Cucu for doing so. I think people overrated him a little bit - however I know he is still young with plenty of room to improve, but as usual with young players it's a gamble. Yeh I didn’t trust his defending Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted January 10, 2024 Share Posted January 10, 2024 3 minutes ago, Strike said: All for it. Start working on a colwill A. Silva pairing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted January 10, 2024 Share Posted January 10, 2024 Any versatile , fierce and experienced midfielders / defenders we can get on the cheap? Like when we had Beletti need to get some older , more mentally strong heads in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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