Chelsea Transfers

[Strike 7,763]

46 minutes ago, Thor said:

That isn't the issue. 

Its when we go and pay 120 mil and then everyone here acts like they were crazy for paying 120 mil, when in fact the fans were calling for heads if it wasn't paid. 

 

The same people who whinge about us overspending on certain players were the ones screaming for them to just sign and stop worrying about the numbers. 

I can understand no longer signing CBs, mids since we have spent on so many already

but the only strikers signed in the last two years have been Aubameyang (short term dud ) and Jackson (relatively cheap, not ready). Clearlake haven’t invested in a top striker yet. 

 

[lucio 5,418]

Get Dybala and guirassy on the cheap

[Thor 2,817]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

I can understand no longer signing CBs, mids since we have spent on so many already

but the only strikers signed in the last two years have been Aubameyang (short term dud ) and Jackson (relatively cheap, not ready). Clearlake haven’t invested in a top striker yet. 

 

Vic had one great season at Napoli. The rest have been middle of the pack. A lot of other strikers in the Serie A have put up his numbers if not better and done it at a similar/younger age. 

[Jayteezy 18]

2 hours ago, lucio said:

Get Dybala and guirassy on the cheap

Would love Dybala for the quoted prices but ain’t no way he’s surviving our training 😭

[Special Juan 28,730]

They get injured signing a contract now

[lucio 5,418]

17 minutes ago, Jayteezy said:

Would love Dybala for the quoted prices but ain’t no way he’s surviving our training 😭

Training needs to be changed , isn’t translating into intensity on the pitch 

[LAM09 7,085]

5 hours ago, Thor said:

Vic had one great season at Napoli. The rest have been middle of the pack. A lot of other strikers in the Serie A have put up his numbers if not better and done it at a similar/younger age. 

Osimhen's done it in multiple leagues, and his stats have improved year on year, aside from one that involved him needing facial reconstruction. Look at his age too.

[TheHulk 2,636]

12 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Osimhen's done it in multiple leagues, and his stats have improved year on year, aside from one that involved him needing facial reconstruction. Look at his age too.

No he hasn't he has one season with more than 20 goals and has now reverted back to his normal level. At 120m he is a complete waste of money.

Edited January 8, 2024 by TheHulk

[lucio 5,418]

Osimhen is mid. Just like Toney , not worth the big money. 

[TheHulk 2,636]

The striker market is trash right now, find whatever stop gaps we can find until something good shows up, we can't afford to get it wrong again especially when we talking about big money transfer.

[YorkshireBlue 3,341]

1 minute ago, TheHulk said:

The striker market is trash right now, find whatever stop gaps we can find until something good shows up, we can't afford to get it wrong again especially when we talking about big money transfer.

How long do we wait for "something good"? wasn't Osimhen meant to be the something good? We need a striker now we need to try and get the best we can for now tbh 

[TheHulk 2,636]

13 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

How long do we wait for "something good"? wasn't Osimhen meant to be the something good? We need a striker now we need to try and get the best we can for now tbh 

Who knows, might take a while until something else shows up, Oshimhen is a more polished Lukaku, he offers less than Jackson in the build up, if he will have a goal drought bet his thread will be very active with many crying he doesn't do anything. For 120m this guy is a waste of money, if he was 60-70m would be okay. 

I'd take the risk on Guirassy but think Bayern are after him. Hope we ain't touching this Gyokeres dud either.

Edited January 8, 2024 by TheHulk

[TheHulk 2,636]

 

[LAM09 7,085]

1 hour ago, TheHulk said:

No he hasn't he has one season with more than 20 goals and has now reverted back to his normal level. At 120m he is a complete waste of money.

In league football, he has. Have you actually watch Napoli at all this season, as you'd know what the real issue is.

£108m is his supposed release clause.  Out of all the CF targets, he be the best value in terms of what he offers and his profile.

1 hour ago, YorkshireBlue said:

How long do we wait for "something good"? wasn't Osimhen meant to be the something good? We need a striker now we need to try and get the best we can for now tbh 

Some people change their minds more than the British weather changes. Let's get another stop gap (Jackson #2), complain that he isn't delivering, and repeat the cycle until our bottom half status is cemented. 

Edited January 8, 2024 by LAM09

[ZAPHOD2319 4,942]

42 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

How long do we wait for "something good"? wasn't Osimhen meant to be the something good? We need a striker now we need to try and get the best we can for now tbh 

I think it is telling that other top clubs have cooled their interest in Osimhen. It is a lot of a club's budget on a player that might come good, or be another Timo.

[nyikolajevics 2,829]

1 hour ago, TheHulk said:

 

Great move. He will excel there, then sell for as much as possible. Few years ago we missed a massive chance with Batshuayi, this time we shouldn’t be tempted.

[Thor 2,817]

4 hours ago, LAM09 said:

In league football, he has. Have you actually watch Napoli at all this season, as you'd know what the real issue is.

£108m is his supposed release clause.  Out of all the CF targets, he be the best value in terms of what he offers and his profile.

Some people change their minds more than the British weather changes. Let's get another stop gap (Jackson #2), complain that he isn't delivering, and repeat the cycle until our bottom half status is cemented. 

His goal scoring record outside of that one season is very mid level... And he has done it in very average leagues. Jackson is a better player than him. He is. 

VO ain't carrying the ball up the field and opening up the game like NJ is. Sure NJ has missed some sitters, but they are more highlighted because of how poor we've been as a club - and those big chances created are very misleading. Sure - some strikers would have put more in the net, but its more so down to return to the mean stuff rather than Jackson as a player. He isn't always going to miss tap ins and that. 

I'm all for getting another striker, but VO isn't the sure fire thing like Kane and Haaland. Don't need to try and force it IMO.

[Mário César 1,477]

 

[Vytis33 1,376]

Hope he does well and we can sell for a nice return.   Just doesn’t fit here right now 

 

[robsblubot 3,595]

19 hours ago, Thor said:

His goal scoring record outside of that one season is very mid level... And he has done it in very average leagues. Jackson is a better player than him. He is. 

VO ain't carrying the ball up the field and opening up the game like NJ is. Sure NJ has missed some sitters, but they are more highlighted because of how poor we've been as a club - and those big chances created are very misleading. Sure - some strikers would have put more in the net, but its more so down to return to the mean stuff rather than Jackson as a player. He isn't always going to miss tap ins and that. 

I'm all for getting another striker, but VO isn't the sure fire thing like Kane and Haaland. Don't need to try and force it IMO.

I personally find this characteristic not very useful for strikers at big clubs... perhaps even detrimental for the team. There should be several more qualified players for that job at an elite outfit. For me Jackson's a bit of a ball hog, which is the one thing I dislike about his game. Also, as and if we improve, and become respectful again, he will have less and less opportunity for these runs.
xG is indeed relative and most, if not all, strikers have wild fluctuations in their xG throughout their careers.

Edited January 9, 2024 by robsblubot