Chelsea Transfers

[OneMoSalah 9,093]

So I am guessing Mount will be staying/leaving on a free then? Why the fuck are we haggling for £3m and £7m in add ons? 

Just take the £55m and run jesus christ.

If United pull out then we lose £55m next summer…. Not rocket science Todd. 

Edited June 24, 2023 by OneMoSalah

[Vegetable 830]

13 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

If United pull out then we lose £55m next summer…. Not rocket science Todd. 

Or he will be dumped to Newcastle for 45. Window is long. Maybe it's not the worst idea to not reinforce direct rivals cheaply after all.

I'm pretty sure had we tried to buy Mount, instead of selling, he wouldn't be offered to us for less than 90 by any club.

Edited June 24, 2023 by Vegetable

[YorkshireBlue 3,341]

36 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

If United pull out then we lose £55m next summer…. Not rocket science Todd. 

Dunno, you seem to find it extremely difficult to realise Todd isn't doing the transfer side anymore.

Edited June 24, 2023 by YorkshireBlue

[Reddish-Blue 2,666]

28 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

So I am guessing Mount will be staying/leaving on a free then? Why the fuck are we haggling for £3m and £7m in add ons? 

Just take the £55m and run jesus christ.

If United pull out then we lose £55m next summer…. Not rocket science Todd. 

I doubt the new ownership group let him walk on a free, will probably go to someone else on deadline day.  

[Mhsc 1,139]

Interested in this Mount business, I wonder what they want to discuss f2f. Feeling is maybe other clubs are willing to pay 65 and they know that concretely, but are trying to honour Masons wishes by getting him the move to Utd? Guess it depends how hard ball they and Mason are willing to get about what happens next, would Mason refuse a move to another big club and leave on a free or would he want to leave on good terms to maintain some kind of relationship with the club and fans? What happens to Mason if he does try that? Train alone for a season in his prime?

[Superblue 6,372]

1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

So I am guessing Mount will be staying/leaving on a free then? Why the fuck are we haggling for £3m and £7m in add ons? 

Just take the £55m and run jesus christ.

If United pull out then we lose £55m next summer…. Not rocket science Todd. 

The Mount and Havertz deals for me are critical of the long term way in which this club operates.

Last summer we let players leave fairly cheap and easily seemingly without much negotiation (Lukaku loan, Werner, Gilmour, Alonso) whilst also getting our pants pulled down on a number of transfer negotiations such as Cucurella and Fofana (I'm personally a big fan of Fofana and I think he'll prove to be a very good player over the long term here but it doesn't change that we got drastically bid up by Leicester to bring him in).

This summer it's imperative that we don't show ourselves as a soft touch in the transfer market. We've driven hard bargains with Mount and Havertz so far to sell on terms acceptable for us, not Arsenal and United. We've so far pushed a harder line with Inter on Lukaku.

In the example of this Mount deal, if we just rolled over because United have briefed to the media it's their "last" offer, then we're going to struggle in the future. We'll show to buying clubs that we can be easily manipulated and bullied and we'll show to players that want to leave that we'll cave into the pressures. At present this offer is much closer to United's initial bid than it is Chelsea's initial valuation. 

I get there is risk attached due to his situation a year away from his contract being up, but the Mount deal could have much longer term ramifications for us if we get it wrong and are seen as being pushed around. 

The other acid test on the horizon will be if we are indeed interested in Caicedo, our negotiations with Brighton to buy him. 

[Mário César 1,477]

4 minutes ago, Superblue said:

The Mount and Havertz deals for me are critical of the long term way in which this club operates.

Last summer we let players leave fairly cheap and easily seemingly without much negotiation (Lukaku loan, Werner, Gilmour, Alonso) whilst also getting our pants pulled down on a number of transfer negotiations such as Cucurella and Fofana (I'm personally a big fan of Fofana and I think he'll prove to be a very good player over the long term here but it doesn't change that we got drastically bid up by Leicester to bring him in).

This summer it's imperative that we don't show ourselves as a soft touch in the transfer market. We've driven hard bargains with Mount and Havertz so far to sell on terms acceptable for us, not Arsenal and United. We've so far pushed a harder line with Inter on Lukaku.

In the example of this Mount deal, if we just rolled over because United have briefed to the media it's their "last" offer, then we're going to struggle in the future. We'll show to buying clubs that we can be easily manipulated and bullied and we'll show to players that want to leave that we'll cave into the pressures. At present this offer is much closer to United's initial bid than it is Chelsea's initial valuation. 

I get there is risk attached due to his situation a year away from his contract being up, but the Mount deal could have much longer term ramifications for us if we get it wrong and are seen as being pushed around. 

The other acid test on the horizon will be if we are indeed interested in Caicedo, our negotiations with Brighton to buy him. 

we have other people taking care of the negotiations.

that's why there are different ones compared to last year

this is what we missed last year

[ZAPHOD2319 4,942]

1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

So I am guessing Mount will be staying/leaving on a free then? Why the fuck are we haggling for £3m and £7m in add ons? 

Just take the £55m and run jesus christ.

If United pull out then we lose £55m next summer…. Not rocket science Todd. 

Todd does not negotiate transfers, regardless how the press like to use his name to simplify stories. Just like the following storing…. Although I hope our transfer team is doing this. 
 

 

[xPetrCechx 13,598]

Koulibaly to Al Hilal ✅🔵 #CFC #Saudi

Deal set to be announced with fee close to €23/24m.

🎥 @taggatsn
https://t.co/xzV3xetGH3
 — Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano)
 Jun 24, 2023

[xPetrCechx 13,598]

No changes on Caicedo deal. Chelsea expected to bid after outgoing ane still feel in control of the situation. There’s no official negotiation ongoing yet. 🔵 #CFC

Personal terms almost agreed. ⤵🇪🇨 https://t.co/Ro0qSpBUuE
 — Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano)
 Jun 24, 2023

[xPetrCechx 13,598]

Rumours of “agent change” for André Onana are wide of mark. His agent was and remains Albert Botines who’s taking care of negotiations 🇨🇲

Botines met with Manchester United earlier this week — Chelsea have asked about Onana two weeks ago.

Inter want at least €50m plus add-ons. https://t.co/aC8gWP1FOX
 — Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano)
 Jun 24, 2023

[Mário César 1,477]

3 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

Rumours of “agent change” for André Onana are wide of mark. His agent was and remains Albert Botines who’s taking care of negotiations 🇨🇲

Botines met with Manchester United earlier this week — Chelsea have asked about Onana two weeks ago.

Inter want at least €50m plus add-ons. https://t.co/aC8gWP1FOX
 — Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano)
 Jun 24, 2023

why we dont swap lukaku for onana?

would be a good deal for both sides 

Im slighty worried because I wan't see kepa as number 1 for next season 

lets see what will happen 

[Pizy 19,257]

Ben Jacobs and Fabrizio just keep repeated the same exact thing over and over and have done so for like a month. ‘Chelsea really want Caicedo, Caicedo himself wants Chelsea, but Chelsea haven’t bid yet.”

Surely it’ll finally happen this coming week after we receive the Havertz, Kova, and Koulibaly/Ziyech/Mendy money? All of those deals seem to be in the medical & final paperwork phase so should be done this weekend.

We wait any longer and other clubs could swoop in and turn his head with monster wages that our new regime is hesitant now to offer.

[Mário César 1,477]

2 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Ben Jacobs and Fabrizio just keep repeated the same exact thing over and over and have done so for like a month. ‘Chelsea really want Caicedo, Caicedo himself wants Chelsea, but Chelsea haven’t bid yet.”

Surely it’ll finally happen this coming week after we receive the Havertz, Kova, and Koulibaly/Ziyech/Mendy money? All of those deals seem to be in the medical & final paperwork phase so should be done this weekend.

We wait any longer and other clubs could swoop in and turn his head with monster wages that our new regime is hesitant now to offer.

yes until the end of the next news we will have concrete news about caicedo and perphaps other players 

[Strike 7,763]

20 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Ben Jacobs and Fabrizio just keep repeated the same exact thing over and over and have done so for like a month. ‘Chelsea really want Caicedo, Caicedo himself wants Chelsea, but Chelsea haven’t bid yet.”

Surely it’ll finally happen this coming week after we receive the Havertz, Kova, and Koulibaly/Ziyech/Mendy money? All of those deals seem to be in the medical & final paperwork phase so should be done this weekend.

We wait any longer and other clubs could swoop in and turn his head with monster wages that our new regime is hesitant now to offer.

Club wants to do the deal in July, the reports say. Saudi deals go through only after July 1. Its only the Havertz and Kova money that's coming in for now.

Anyway personal terms almost agreed with Caicedo. We are in the race and look like we are ahead of competitors even with our supposed mid-table status.

[Pizy 19,257]

27 minutes ago, Strike said:

Club wants to do the deal in July, the reports say. Saudi deals go through only after July 1. Its only the Havertz and Kova money that's coming in for now.

Anyway personal terms almost agreed with Caicedo. We are in the race and look like we are ahead of competitors even with our supposed mid-table status.

Personal terms “almost agreed” is the key phrase for me. If United decide to walk away from negotiations for Mount and Arse lose the Rice race to City suddenly that’s two clubs that will likely go hard for Caicedo as an alternative. 

[Strike 7,763]

55 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Ben Jacobs and Fabrizio just keep repeated the same exact thing over and over and have done so for like a month. ‘Chelsea really want Caicedo, Caicedo himself wants Chelsea, but Chelsea haven’t bid yet.”

Surely it’ll finally happen this coming week after we receive the Havertz, Kova, and Koulibaly/Ziyech/Mendy money? All of those deals seem to be in the medical & final paperwork phase so should be done this weekend.

We wait any longer and other clubs could swoop in and turn his head with monster wages that our new regime is hesitant now to offer.

 

In today's non-update

[ZAPHOD2319 4,942]

Find a new home Rom!

 

[Mário César 1,477]

18 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

Find a new home Rom!

 

Yes good news

[Tomo 21,751]

1 hour ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

Todd does not negotiate transfers, regardless how the press like to use his name to simplify stories. Just like the following storing…. Although I hope our transfer team is doing this. 
 

 

Such a shame the political climate will stop us from getting him (unless Mudryk has totally contrasting views to Zinchenko).