Chelsea Transfers

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

6 minutes ago, Maravel21 said:

62m£ for cucurella wow to keep cowil 

where did you read that

the highest figure I read were 68m euros which is 57m gbp.

anway, we should walk away at this point. this is just too much. it is crazy. Cucu is good but not world class. That fee should get you every lb in the world bar phonzie&theo.

[Maravel21 36]

Just now, Magic Lamps said:

where did you read that

the highest figure I read were 68m euros which is 57m gbp.

anway, we should walk away at this point. this is just too much. it is crazy. Cucu is good but not world class. That fee should get you every lb in the world bar phonzie&theo.

 

[Superblue 6,372]

1 minute ago, Magic Lamps said:

where did you read that

the highest figure I read were 68m euros which is 57m gbp.

anway, we should walk away at this point. this is just too much. it is crazy. Cucu is good but not world class. That fee should get you every lb in the world bar phonzie&theo.

Apparently it will be around £55m and £7m potential add ons.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

1 minute ago, Maravel21 said:

 

k thx

this is just absurd.

Sorry we should walk from that deal. If we offered that kind of money to bayern or milan they would start thinking.

[LAM09 7,098]

7 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

yeah and that should have been a warning as well

at that time 51,75m pounds were only 57m euros tho

The conversion rate should have no bearing when we're discussing English clubs. Either way, it's a bit rich, IMO.

Paying that much for someone that isn't of the level of Hakimi (he cost just under £60m twelve months ago) or such isn't great business. Hope he turns out to be a good investment, though.  

1 minute ago, Magic Lamps said:

k thx

this is just absurd.

Sorry we should walk from that deal. If we offered that kind of money to bayern or milan they would start thinking.

We essentially paid more to keep Colwill. Let's hope he has some season.

Edited August 4, 2022 by LAM09

[MoroccanBlue 5,407]

1 minute ago, Magic Lamps said:

k thx

this is just absurd.

Sorry we should walk from that deal. If we offered that kind of money to bayern or milan they would start thinking.

I will not, repeat, will not endure another season with Alonso at LWB. 

Sorry, just not going to happen. 

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

24 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Any experts out there can explain to me how we are able to achieve this and comply with FFP?

@Vesper?

One word...Barca!

If they're OK everyone is ok

[Superblue 6,372]

3 minutes ago, Tomo said:

If i had to guess it's looking like a similar plan to the early Roman years, spend our way to parity with the big two then focus on the sustainablity profit side of things once the success arrives which is where i'd guess the big money signings while still happening will be less frequent and we'd be looking at getting Slonina, Colwill, Hutchinson etc in the side.

Hopefully we do that second bit better this time as we really stood still with squad building circa 07-10.

I agree, I think they'll try and spend quickly to catch up over this summer and next before looking to maintain that position. Remember that Pep spent around £400m across his first two summers at City to reshape a squad that already had a strong, title winning core.

In theory so long as the club is successful, it should be able to sustain a transfer budget of roughly £100m each summer, which should be ample if used correctly to bring in one or two players each summer to freshen the squad up.

 

[Pizy 19,322]

Think Alonso will be in Barca by this time next week. Emerson will probably be gone, too.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Just now, MoroccanBlue said:

I will not, repeat, will not endure another season with Alonso at LWB. 

Sorry, just not going to happen. 

yeah no one said anything about alonso. if we are prepared to pay this much for a leftback, there are tons of options not named alonso

[MoroccanBlue 5,407]

1 minute ago, Magic Lamps said:

yeah no one said anything about alonso. if we are prepared to pay this much for a leftback, there are tons of options not named alonso

And who is available that is proven in the PL along with having metrics suitable for our system? 

[LAM09 7,098]

1 minute ago, MoroccanBlue said:

And who is available that is proven in the PL along with having metrics suitable for our system? 

Can someone be deemed "proven in the PL" after one season?

If Cucurella doesn't start the majority of our games this season, someone like Hickey would have been far cheaper option and four years younger.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

1 minute ago, MoroccanBlue said:

And who is available that is proven in the PL along with having metrics suitable for our system? 

Pl proven is a myth

but even with there are Tyrick Mitchel, Kieran Tierney and Rayan At-Nouri. at a stretch Aaron Hickey, Mykolenko, Angelino, Jonny Otto or Rico Henry.

if we offered that moeny to liverpool for robertson, chances are they would take it.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,976]

3 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Can someone be deemed "proven in the PL" after one season?

If Cucurella doesn't start the majority of our games this season, someone like Hickey would have been far cheaper option and four years younger.

You pay a little extra for that kind of hair. Every team needs a guy out there that runs around with massive locks flying everywhere to be a proper team! 😅

[MoroccanBlue 5,407]

7 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Can someone be deemed "proven in the PL" after one season?

If Cucurella doesn't start the majority of our games this season, someone like Hickey would have been far cheaper option and four years younger.

I would say yes when it becomes blatantly obvious they can cope with the pace of the game. 

5 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Pl proven is a myth

but even with there are Tyrick Mitchel, Kieran Tierney and Rayan At-Nouri. at a stretch Aaron Hickey, Mykolenko, Angelino, Jonny Otto or Rico Henry.

if we offered that moeny to liverpool for robertson, chances are they would take it.

Being proven to cope with the pace of the Premier league assures less risk. 

I swear we had this same argument two years ago when people were advocating cheaper options in Regulion and Tagliafico over Chilwell.  Tuchel so far has been faultless when it comes to the defence so when he wants his players in, you simply have to trust him. 

Of all those options at least 90% of them aren't good enough. 

Edited August 4, 2022 by MoroccanBlue

[YorkshireBlue 3,348]

34 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

k thx

this is just absurd.

Sorry we should walk from that deal. If we offered that kind of money to bayern or milan they would start thinking.

Good job it's not your money then init pal. BTW that food u bought other week forget it don't do that again to expensive them jeans your wearing? Take um back to expensive oh oh wait that house u live in would be cheaper in Iraq mate u well over paid. 

[JDY 1,290]

I'm really happy with this. The price is a lot yes but its more cost effective this way (as opposed to selling with a buyback) if Colwill does what we all hope he will do. We get a really good player and keep another potentially great player.

What I'm a bit confused about is many people branding it as an expensive 'depth' signing, or rotation. I don't know if its an underrating of Cucurella or an overrating of Chilwell but imo he's better technically, physically, and tactically off the ball than Chilly. This is pre injury Chilwell, we don't know what he's going to be like moving forward now. But apart from the goals he scored, I haven't really seen anything great about any aspect of Chilwell's game that has made me think he should be a mainstay in the starting 11 for years to come. I think he's a good player, but I think Cucurella will straight up be the first choice LWB now. Simply because he's the better player.

Only drawback I can see from this is if Colwill doesn't perform well, Brighton have absolutely no incentive to carry on playing him as he'll be gone within a year. Fingers crossed he backs up all the hype.

[DDA 10,271]

14 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Pl proven is a myth

but even with there are Tyrick Mitchel, Kieran Tierney and Rayan At-Nouri. at a stretch Aaron Hickey, Mykolenko, Angelino, Jonny Otto or Rico Henry.

if we offered that moeny to liverpool for robertson, chances are they would take it.

I'm sorry but no! Liverpool would not sell Robertson for the same price as we are paying for Cucarella. The wingback position is fast becoming one of the most important positions on the pitch, if it isn't already. Just look at the downward slope in form we took when Chilly and James were out.

[Alabama 1,992]

Fofana next...

[Tomo 21,754]

1 minute ago, JDY said:

I'm really happy with this. The price is a lot yes but its more cost effective this way (as opposed to selling with a buyback) if Colwill does what we all hope he will do. We get a really good player and keep another potentially great player.

What I'm a bit confused about is many people branding it as an expensive 'depth' signing, or rotation. I don't know if its an underrating of Cucurella or an overrating of Chilwell but imo he's better technically, physically, and tactically off the ball than Chilly. This is pre injury Chilwell, we don't know what he's going to be like moving forward now. But apart from the goals he scored, I haven't really seen anything great about any aspect of Chilwell's game that has made me think he should be a mainstay in the starting 11 for years to come. I think he's a good player, but I think Cucurella will straight up be the first choice LWB now. Simply because he's the better player.

Only drawback I can see from this is if Colwill doesn't perform well, Brighton have absolutely no incentive to carry on playing him as he'll be gone within a year. Fingers crossed he backs up all the hype.

I would have made the Colwill loan a 2 year one, especially if we sign Forfana because it will be hard to fit in two early 20's CB's regardless of how good they are.

Two years time Wesley will be approaching Terry's age in 2004 so should make it a little more viable.