Chelsea Transfers

[Pizy 18,477]

If we can get 1 more attacker who provides goals in addition to KK, Sterling, and I guess Aké, I see no reason why we shouldn’t enter the season thinking title push. A depth signing at fullback would be the cherry in top.
 

We definitely won’t be favorites but if we can keep our key players fit (namely the fullbacks) we have a first XI as good as anyone in Europe and a very deep squad.

[robsblubot 3,550]

2 hours ago, Stats said:

The fee is a lot but I don't see why people are such against it. He is an experienced PL defender. Good on the ball and in a back 3 I think will really surprise people. Like I say, City forked out money for him for a reason and not a case that he has been awful for them. Just been behind in the pecking order. I mean don't get me wrong if we got Ake as our only defender, I would bricking it but alongside Koulibaly, I am fine with that.

That's the thing, his experience in PL is for Bournemouth level not city, or ours. He was also *way* behind the pecking order for a reason.

While I don't personally see any ball-playing skill in him, I think they made a bet (given their CB issues) that he would improve and would adapt well to their possession system -- neither really happened, so now they are trying to push us to make a similar bet, which makes no sense given that it's no longer the same bet. It's really a question of "why him?" and why pay this much if he's so unremarkable? 
Wouldn't surprise me if this was tied to the sterling deal tho.

[Vesper 29,116]

7 hours ago, Kong said:

Didn't we offer 60mill?

I am not sure what we offered

I have seen so many claims

[We Hate Scouse 10,286]

I haven't seen much of Koulibaly, what's his speed like? He's getting older now so I hope we don't offer him too long of a contract. 3 years + 1. I've read he's in very good physical shape though, so hopefully he can be similar to Silva (who I admittedly thought would flop in the PL)

[Blues11 213]

21 minutes ago, We Hate Scouse said:

I haven't seen much of Koulibaly, what's his speed like? He's getting older now so I hope we don't offer him too long of a contract. 3 years + 1. I've read he's in very good physical shape though, so hopefully he can be similar to Silva (who I admittedly thought would flop in the PL)

I personally think he's better than Rudiger. Obviously Rudiger has proven it on the big stage in the PL but physically KK is world class. I think it's a great signing and immediately makes us better. Maybe we might not even have to play three in the back all the time. Speed is still there and he's rock solid defensively. 

Top signings in KK and Sterling. Would love a midfielder or hopefully Gallagher takes the next step. Think MF is an area that's not talked about enough because we really got exposed there last season. 

[Pizy 18,477]

30 minutes ago, We Hate Scouse said:

I haven't seen much of Koulibaly, what's his speed like? He's getting older now so I hope we don't offer him too long of a contract. 3 years + 1. I've read he's in very good physical shape though, so hopefully he can be similar to Silva (who I admittedly thought would flop in the PL)

He’s no Rüdiger in terms of pace but who is? He’s very athletic and can get about just fine. He’s not going to get twisted in knots like Harry Maguire or anything.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,534]

 

[Clockwork 1,794]

Koulibaly is way better than Rudigar.

[Stats 7,060]

2 hours ago, robsblubot said:

That's the thing, his experience in PL is for Bournemouth level not city, or ours. He was also *way* behind the pecking order for a reason.

While I don't personally see any ball-playing skill in him, I think they made a bet (given their CB issues) that he would improve and would adapt well to their possession system -- neither really happened, so now they are trying to push us to make a similar bet, which makes no sense given that it's no longer the same bet. It's really a question of "why him?" and why pay this much if he's so unremarkable? 
Wouldn't surprise me if this was tied to the sterling deal tho.

No, I disagree that he was unable to adapt. It is more a case that you have a player who is not a regular and wants more minutes with the World Cup in mind, he wants to leave. He was Bournemouth's standout player by a mile. Although Cahill had his critics, was it a silly move to buy him because he was playing for a relegation based team? Liverpool bought Robertson from Hull who also got relegated. City just bought Phillips from Leeds who were close to relegation last season.

Ake is not a world class defender by any means but not an awful one too. Also right now we just aren't close to City in terms of quality wise. There isn't anything wrong in getting another team's back up if he helps us in a certain system. If we play back 3, he is a good fit for the LCB and if we go four at the back he is decent cover. Conte had Moses playing as RWB who was outcasted before he came in and we won the title that season. In fact Liverpool bought Milner of City right also who was a back up there and that has been a successful move, so I won't buy that notion that because he was behind pecking order at City, we should not be looking at him. 

Edited July 13, 2022 by Stats

[Blue Armour 4,323]

6 hours ago, Pizy said:

Or PSG who have been linked with him before. They could get him instead of Skriniar.

If they do, then we move for Skriniar.

Anyway, it seems we have KK. So we're good.

Edited July 13, 2022 by Blue Armour

[Blue Armour 4,323]

1 hour ago, Pizy said:

He’s no Rüdiger in terms of pace but who is? He’s very athletic and can get about just fine. He’s not going to get twisted in knots like Harry Maguire or anything.

Yeah Rudigers pace was freakishly great.

Once he got going, he's was unstoppable.

He's been in the top 5-10 fastest players in the PL ever since he arrived.

[shrenshah 186]

38 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

Koulibaly is way better than Rudigar.

Nope

[Clockwork 1,794]

1 minute ago, shrenshah said:

Nope

Rudigar success is a result of playing in a 3 CB system, Madrid is going to get the Germany Rudigar, which quite honestly is just average. 

[shrenshah 186]

Koulibaly plays in the Shitalian league where Lukaku is a monster

 

Cannot compare with Rudi...it is a downgrade that too a short term one considering age for which we are paying good money....but cant complain since we need to gurantee top 4 in which he can help...we are far off city and liverpool and that gap doeant look likely to go away in the next few years

[DDA 9,693]

22 minutes ago, shrenshah said:

Koulibaly plays in the Shitalian league where Lukaku is a monster

 

Cannot compare with Rudi...it is a downgrade that too a short term one considering age for which we are paying good money....but cant complain since we need to gurantee top 4 in which he can help...we are far off city and liverpool and that gap doeant look likely to go away in the next few years

What separated us from City and Liverpool last year was consistency over the course of a season along with a lack of confident finishers.

Head to head... there isn't much in it.. and it would be fair to say, we bettered them in head to head meetings and if not for the mentioned lack of goal scorers we would have beaten both convincingly last season in several games.

So far we have brought in Sterling who knows where the goal is. We have Havertz going into his 3rd season now, already showing signs of adaptation last season with adding aggression to his game. There are rumours we may be in for Gnabry and if we do  somehow bring in Lewa... then I can't see why we aren't able to stand toe to toe with City and Liverpool... especially now we are brining in KK to play alongside Silva, James and the returning Chilwell. 

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50 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

Yeah Rudigers pace was freakishly great.

Once he got going, he's was unstoppable.

He's been in the top 5-10 fastest players in the PL ever since he arrived.

I think other teams should be  worrying about sterlings pace...hopefully

[wally green 0]

43 minutes ago, shrenshah said:

Koulibaly plays in the Shitalian league where Lukaku is a monster

 

Cannot compare with Rudi...it is a downgrade that too a short term one considering age for which we are paying good money....but cant complain since we need to gurantee top 4 in which he can help...we are far off city and liverpool and that gap doeant look likely to go away in the next few years

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[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Chelsea are now closing on Kalidou Koulibaly deal! Full agreement on personal terms for €10m net per season, contract until June 2027. 🚨🔵 #CFC

Negotiation set to be completed in the coming days: Chelsea working to close the deal for €38m plus add ons as final proposal.