Mário César 1,252 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 ZAPHOD2319 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Sterling is in the bag, De Ligt sounds like it's matter of time. TB is not fucking about ZAPHOD2319 and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 4 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: For £15m I'd take a gamble. Evident we need another holding midfielder this season, unless we want to take our chances with Ampadu/Gilmour. Rabiots not really a holding midfielder though, he’s more box to box although I think he’s likely flexible enough to play as a 6. Not sure how he’s done for Juve but he used to be a very good, well rounder midfielder. 2 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: There seems to be a pattern developing that Tuchel’s input was not being taken serious. Tuchel wants De Ligt and Marina wanted to finish her deal to acquire Kounde. It seems that in every instance that there is a major difference, Boehly is backing Tuchel and showing people the door, or allowing them to leave immediately that want to challenge Tuchel’s idea of what the team should be. I hope the players are aware of this. Did you just make this up? Or is there a source? I thought it was very well stated Tuchel was impressed by Kounde and wanted him last summer to be our RCB in a back 3. No? There seems to be much more talk re Boehly leaning heavily on Tuchel for his input as opposed to under previous managers with Roman due to the circumstances re Marina and Cech leaving but until we sign a couple of players we won’t truly know. And if this is a long term strategy or temporary to a DoF comes in and they can sort of delegate/pick up some of the slack and maybe allow Tuchel to work more on coaching (although obviously to be on same page and have his opinions taken in as I am sure he did under with Marina) or even to take some of the responsibility off of Boehly so he can focus on other areas too. For me, Tuchel has always said and hinted he is much more at home focusing on coaching as opposed to the politics of the media handling and transfers so we have to see. He has had disputes before regarding transfers when being more involved and he has openly admitted this about his time at Paris and Dortmund so he might not want to be as hands on as he will be this summer (until we get things up and running with regards to the structuring of the club with the changes and a DoF). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,937 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Honestly if I see Rabiot join I will be very disappointed. nyikolajevics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Did you just make this up? Or is there a source? Yes, that actually was reported by a few sources when marina left and the de ligt interest ramped up. Don't ask me to find those though, about a billion other articles came out since then. Edited June 27, 2022 by Artandur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,814 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Artandur said: Yes, that actually was reported by a few sources when marina left and the de ligt interest ramped up. Don't ask me to find those though, about a billion other articles came out since then. I think Tuchel was in favor if Kounde last window. De Ligt was not a possibility at that time. there are better articles about Marina pushing but this sums it up also. Artandur 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,897 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Really hope we get de Ligt done quickly (as in this week) before United sew up de Jong. They’re so focused on him for now but if they wrap that up I could see them going hard for de Ligt. He’s probably great mates with Frenkie and with the obvious Ten Hag/Ajax connection, de Ligt would probably give them very serious consideration over us. All of that and United would be silly enough to offer him wages we probably wouldn’t touch. If we can have Sterling & de Ligt done this week and also finally have complete clarity one way or the other in Dembele’s situation that would be lovely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,937 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 15 minutes ago, Pizy said: Really hope we get de Ligt done quickly (as in this week) before United sew up de Jong. They’re so focused on him for now but if they wrap that up I could see them going hard for de Ligt. He’s probably great mates with Frenkie and with the obvious Ten Hag/Ajax connection, de Ligt would probably give them very serious consideration over us. All of that and United would be silly enough to offer him wages we probably wouldn’t touch. If we can have Sterling & de Ligt done this week and also finally have complete clarity one way or the other in Dembele’s situation that would be lovely. De Ligt may be friends with De Jong but he the lad has ambition hence why he would chose us over United regardless. Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turgi 71 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 From De Ligt and Gvardiol to Kounde and Ake fml Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 It feels Ake's rep has gone down since he joined City, however I remember when he left Bournemouth, a lot of fans wanted him and were shocked when we did not trigger the buy back option. Thing is, he has not declined, he just is behind better defenders at City, hence why he doesn't get much game time. In a back three, I think he would be really good here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,897 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Stats said: It feels Ake's rep has gone down since he joined City, however I remember when he left Bournemouth, a lot of fans wanted him and were shocked when we did not trigger the buy back option. Thing is, he has not declined, he just is behind better defenders at City, hence why he doesn't get much game time. In a back three, I think he would be really good here. The optics just look shit. As you say, he’s behind better defenders at City. A club whose level in the league we’re trying to reach and yet we are going to buy a defender who can’t get into their side? I was one of those people who was keen on buying him back from Bournemouth before he went to City. But buying him now after he has stagnated in the bench for ages sounds so risky. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! DDA 9,937 Posted June 27, 2022 Popular Post! Share Posted June 27, 2022 Anyone who believes Ake is the answer is severely deluded. OneMoSalah, Vesper, Laylabelle and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,814 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 I just hope we keep Colwill and over the course of the season he shows he is ready. I really hope Colwill, Conor, and Broja get a chance to prove their worth. Also hope Chalobah keeps developing. A major emphasis with the Dodgers is getting young players into their farm system and developing them to starting players. I hope that emphasis follows so it is players from the academy to the first team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turgi 71 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, Hermione said: What happened? Matt Law is high on both and he's usually right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 54 minutes ago, Pizy said: Really hope we get de Ligt done quickly (as in this week) before United sew up de Jong. They’re so focused on him for now but if they wrap that up I could see them going hard for de Ligt. He’s probably great mates with Frenkie and with the obvious Ten Hag/Ajax connection, de Ligt would probably give them very serious consideration over us. All of that and United would be silly enough to offer him wages we probably wouldn’t touch. If we can have Sterling & de Ligt done this week and also finally have complete clarity one way or the other in Dembele’s situation that would be lovely. One of Ten Hag's first actions in his first United presser was to suck off Harry Maguire. They invested in Varane last summer and bizarrely are dead set in making Maguire work, CB is the last place they're investing in certainly for the price it would take for MDL. OneMoSalah, Vesper and Strike 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,897 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Just now, Tomo said: One of Ten Hag's first actions in his first United presser was to suck off Harry Maguire. They invested in Varane last summer and bizarrely are dead set in making Maguire work, CB is the last place they're investing in certainly for the price it would take for MDL. True, that’s why we’re in the drivers seat for sure. Maguire would be basically impossible to move unless they practically gave him away for peanuts. But if for whatever reason Ten Hag didn’t fancy Varane there’s always a chance de Ligt would be an option if we haven’t sealed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, DDA said: Anyone who believes Ake is the answer is severely deluded. I'm not advocating Ake, but a lot of people felt the same way about Rudiger when he waltzed back into the team when Tuchel came in. Christensen stepped up, Chalobah stepped up, a 37 year old Thiago Silva looked about 25 years old. I trust Tuchel and the system he uses to bring the best out of the defence and whilst I think there are better options available I do think Ake's skillset is well suited to a back 3. DDA, Fernando, Blue Armour and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,697 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Signing Ake wouldn’t be necesserally bad step, depends on what our plans are. Right now we have Sarr as backup CB/LB, he is awful. Ake would be huge upgrade. He is not top player but wouldn’t be worried to have him in the DEF against any team in Europe. Also can play in the midfield in case. Still, we need one marquee signing like De Ligt, Skriniar or Coulibaly, but Ake would be a noce addition too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: I'm not advocating Ake, but a lot of people felt the same way about Rudiger when he waltzed back into the team when Tuchel came in. Christensen stepped up, Chalobah stepped up, a 37 year old Thiago Silva looked about 25 years old. I trust Tuchel and the system he uses to bring the best out of the defence and whilst I think there are better options available I do think Ake's skillset is well suited to a back 3. I dont see it with Ake. Unless he will be a squad player. He was part of one of the leakiest PL defences for 2 or 3 seasons with Bournemouth. How he got a move to City in the first place I will never understand because I don’t think he’s at that level to compete with Dias, Laporte, maybe even Stones. Fair enough he has more chances of playing here but again due to a shortage of numbers and not down to his actual quality if you ask me. bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 12 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: I'm not advocating Ake, but a lot of people felt the same way about Rudiger when he waltzed back into the team when Tuchel came in. Christensen stepped up, Chalobah stepped up, a 37 year old Thiago Silva looked about 25 years old. I trust Tuchel and the system he uses to bring the best out of the defence and whilst I think there are better options available I do think Ake's skillset is well suited to a back 3. How come people are willing to admit that Tuchel system cover up a lot of defenders deficiencies yet are unwilling to admit that his tactics are an issue for why our attackers struggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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