Vesper 30,270 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Pizy said: I really don’t think Tchouameni looks all that impressive even in his “best bits” youtube highlights. Just looks like a solid, above average DM. The sort of player clubs like Everton, West Ham or Spuds would take a punt on and see if he develops further. Doesn’t really look to me like Chelsea first XI material. disagree sorry I watched full matches and he is deffo capable of becoming a starter for us who do you want to see come in at DMF for us? MoroccanBlue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Vesper said: disagree sorry I watched full matches and he is deffo capable of becoming a starter for us who do you want to see come in at DMF for us? John Obi Mikel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, Vesper said: disagree sorry I watched full matches and he is deffo capable of becoming a starter for us who do you want to see come in at DMF for us? He's as a defensive midfielder as you could get. A skill set our current midfield is missing. One of those players that make things look simple hence why many discredit his quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: He's as a defensive midfielder as you could get. A skill set our current midfield is missing. One of those players that make things look simple hence why many discredit his quality. Not an ordinary feat becoming the best young player in ligue 1 last season.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,985 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 16 minutes ago, Vesper said: disagree sorry I watched full matches and he is deffo capable of becoming a starter for us who do you want to see come in at DMF for us? Rice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,270 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Pizy said: Rice. he is not worth £100m or so and has holes in his game I still think he is better (after a settling in period) moving to CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vesper 30,270 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 19 hours ago, Hermione said: I don't understand these rumours, it sounds like a big offer is waiting for happen otherwise they wouldn't keep rehashing it over and over. I'd love to get him even if it means we overpay but not holding my breath. Jan Aage Fjortoft is a fraud hack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,527 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 No agreement on Kounde. Sevilla asking for 45m euros + Zouma via Fabrizio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,985 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, Vesper said: he is not worth £100m or so and has holes in his game I still think he is better (after a settling in period) moving to CB Absolutely not worth 100m. But if we can somehow get that price down to between 60-75 I’d say he’s worth it. PL proven, only 22, homegrown, and a potential captain like personality. He could lock down a spot in our XI for a decade. We’ve got to have a player or multiple players that are of interest to WH as a makeweight. mkh and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Strike said: No agreement on Kounde. Sevilla asking for 45m euros + Zouma via Fabrizio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Dortmund CEO Hans-Joachim Watzke on Haaland... https://www.football.london/Chelsea-fc/transfer-news/dortmund-Chelsea-erling-haaland-transfer-21176001 "It is pretty clear to me that Erling Haaland will stay at Dortmund, just as Julian Brandt will remain" Watzke’s told Dortmund’s in-house media channel. "I tend to say that every day but no one really seems to listen as I hear something new every week." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,270 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, Strike said: No agreement on Kounde. Sevilla asking for 45m euros + Zouma via Fabrizio. fucking outrageous that values Zouma at a cunt hair over £20m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,270 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Pizy said: Absolutely not worth 100m. But if we can somehow get that price down to between 60-75 I’d say he’s worth it. PL proven, only 22, homegrown, and a potential captain like personality. He could lock down a spot in our XI for a decade. We’ve got to have a player or multiple players that are of interest to WH as a makeweight. West Ham hold all the cards they have zero incentive to come down to £60-65m, which is the most I value Rice at (£50m + £10-15m English tax) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 46 minutes ago, Hashishi said: John Obi Mikel. I have seen very little of Tchouameni, he does reminds me of Obi Mikel. His physical stature, how he shields the ball, and sprays passes is very Obi Mikel like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Vesper said: West Ham hold all the cards they have zero incentive to come down to £60-65m, which is the most I value Rice at (£50m + £10-15m English tax) The funny thing is West Ham don't really have money and if they want money, they would have to sell players. Good for them if they keep Rice but can their current squad cope with the extra burden of Europa League next season? Don't they still need a striker since Lingard is gone and Antonio is injury prone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Jas said: The funny thing is West Ham don't really have money and if they want money, they would have to sell players. Good for them if they keep Rice but can their current squad cope with the extra burden of Europa League next season? Don't they still need a striker since Lingard is gone and Antonio is injury prone? You do wonder whether West Ham would be in a position to turn an offer down if we offered something like Zouma, Barkley and Abraham in exchange for Rice. I know that is almost certainly never going to happen exchanging 4 players in one deal but they are three players who are capable of starting for West Ham, all still at a good age. It would strengthen their squad in my opinion even if they lost Rice as a result, but in our situation it would be moving on three disposable players for one that we want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: You do wonder whether West Ham would be in a position to turn an offer down if we offered something like Zouma, Barkley and Abraham in exchange for Rice. I know that is almost certainly never going to happen exchanging 4 players in one deal but they are three players who are capable of starting for West Ham, all still at a good age. It would strengthen their squad in my opinion even if they lost Rice as a result, but in our situation it would be moving on three disposable players for one that we want. We are getting property shafted with that deal. Obviously West Ham value Rice highly, but if we are comparing price to quality, we are essentially offering West Ham 80-85 million worth of players for someone who is 40 million tops. NikkiCFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,270 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Jas said: The funny thing is West Ham don't really have money and if they want money, they would have to sell players. Good for them if they keep Rice but can their current squad cope with the extra burden of Europa League next season? Don't they still need a striker since Lingard is gone and Antonio is injury prone? Gold and Sullivan want to sell, and a new owner will likely have a shedload of cash. Yes, for sure they need a striker, but also need a CB and they deffo want Lingard, whom Manure want £30m for, but I think they will deffo accept less as he leaves on a free next summer. Toss Ings (or Tammy) Lingard Zouma on that side (and keep Rice) and they are in really good shape even depth wise, and Aouar is out there for only £18m or so Edited July 29, 2021 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/07/29/west-ham-target-chelseas-kurt-zouma-sealing-alphonse-areola/ According to the Telegraph, a move for Zouma could happen if West Ham can fork out around £25 million. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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