Maravel21 36 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 minute ago, DDA said: The Harry Slabhead links are not funny. If we sign him, I won't watch another Chelsea game until he is sold. Me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin123 534 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, Maravel21 said: Me too He's amazing in a back 3 it must be said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 26 minutes ago, LAM09 said: I think it's quite clear that Lukaku was bought due to the desire of others, No its not, people here have built this narrative out of nothing. Lukaku himself said that Tuchel convinced him to move, just like Sterling and Cucu have this summer. People argue that Lukaku doesn’t fit Tuchel tactic and that is why he was forced on him, it is not that simple. Managers better than Tuchel have recruited players that were bad fit. Reality is Tuchel last summer knew that he needed more goals, and Lukaku was viewed as a top striker. Again this summer he views the same issue, which is why he is pushing for Auba. You guys act like Tuchel is thinking long term, its not always the case. He is looking for immediate result. Actually we have more data on Marina and the board and their preference, when is the last time they purchased a 28 year old player for a club record fee? They prefer younger players with resale value. I think the biggest criticism of the board is unwilling to spend that extra bit of money on players. So no it makes no sense to think they spent a club record on a 28 year old player, oh also force it on a manager. Pretty sure they would have preferred a cheaper option than Lukaku. blahblahblah and Boycie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,490 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Pizy said: Tuchel is basically putting his head on the chopping block if we sign Gordon for silly money. If he works out and kills it Tuchel will look like a genius. But if he hand picks this kid and he flops after we spend £60m on him that’s sackable. Callum out for Gordon does not make any sense. Edited August 23, 2022 by Strike Boycie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Pizy 18,918 Posted August 23, 2022 Popular Post! Share Posted August 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Strike said: Callum out for Gordon does not make any sense. Cal hasn’t been able to beat a man in space in like a year now. He’s useless. And he’s also lazy. At least Gordon will run his socks off for o- minutes and can dribble last players. He’s a pain in the ass to opposing teams with his pace and energy. I can see why TT wants him. But the price tag is laughable. Boycie, mkh, Muzchap and 4 others 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 20 minutes ago, Clockwork said: No its not, people here have built this narrative out of nothing. Lukaku himself said that Tuchel convinced him to move, just like Sterling and Cucu have this summer. People argue that Lukaku doesn’t fit Tuchel tactic and that is why he was forced on him, it is not that simple. Managers better than Tuchel have recruited players that were bad fit. Reality is Tuchel last summer knew that he needed more goals, and Lukaku was viewed as a top striker. Again this summer he views the same issue, which is why he is pushing for Auba. You guys act like Tuchel is thinking long term, its not always the case. He is looking for immediate result. Actually we have more data on Marina and the board and their preference, when is the last time they purchased a 28 year old player for a club record fee? They prefer younger players with resale value. I think the biggest criticism of the board is unwilling to spend that extra bit of money on players. So no it makes no sense to think they spent a club record on a 28 year old player, oh also force it on a manager. Pretty sure they would have preferred a cheaper option than Lukaku. There's plenty to back it up, actually. This is something I've mentioned on multiple occasions and don't have the urge to repeat the same things. I'll just say this - Tuchel (in your opinion of how things work) went for Haaland from the get go, but the club was ultimately priced out of any potential transfer; he then decided to go left field & went for someone with a less than stellar past in the EPL. Please answer that conundrum so I have a clearer picture of the ins and outs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vesper 30,187 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 46 minutes ago, Marvin123 said: He's amazing in a back 3 it must be said slabhead???? wtf 🤬 bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahblahblah 73 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 42 minutes ago, Clockwork said: No its not, people here have built this narrative out of nothing. Lukaku himself said that Tuchel convinced him to move, just like Sterling and Cucu have this summer. People argue that Lukaku doesn’t fit Tuchel tactic and that is why he was forced on him, it is not that simple. Managers better than Tuchel have recruited players that were bad fit. Reality is Tuchel last summer knew that he needed more goals, and Lukaku was viewed as a top striker. Again this summer he views the same issue, which is why he is pushing for Auba. You guys act like Tuchel is thinking long term, its not always the case. He is looking for immediate result. Actually we have more data on Marina and the board and their preference, when is the last time they purchased a 28 year old player for a club record fee? They prefer younger players with resale value. I think the biggest criticism of the board is unwilling to spend that extra bit of money on players. So no it makes no sense to think they spent a club record on a 28 year old player, oh also force it on a manager. Pretty sure they would have preferred a cheaper option than Lukaku. Hard to fight a nice story mate. People have build up narratives around TT and Lukaku. Literally absolved TT of any and all blame. Boycie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,918 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, Vesper said: slabhead???? wtf 🤬 The only possible role I can see slabhead being decent in is in the Thiago Silva role in the middle of a back 3 with 2 super athletic and quick CB’s either side of him. But obviously he ain’t getting that here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,187 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 21 hours ago, Pizy said: Btw, from all the footage I’ve seen Leão seems to play and do most of his damage from the left side where Sterling obviously plays. yep. I said that early on, as soon as we signed Raheem main question I have is how Leão would fare as a CF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Watching highlights of Gordon... he really does look quite impressive actually. Needs to improve on his numbers... The more I watch of Leao the less impressed I am by him. 😐 ChrissWTF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Emerson oficially solid, just 15-20 more players future to be solved Vesper, manpe, bigbluewillie and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,918 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, DDA said: Watching highlights of Gordon... he really does look quite impressive actually. Needs to improve on his numbers... The more I watch of Leao the less impressed I am by him. 😐 Said a month or two ago here that Leão reminds me almost exactly of Zaha. Same physique, same playing style. Seems to be better in the final third but difficult to say how that would translate to a much tougher league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,187 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 10 hours ago, Pizy said: £60m on Anthony Gordon would be the worst transfer in football history. hold my beer Muzchap, bigbluewillie and oldportblue 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Club to Tuchel, "we couldn't get any of your striker targets except Lukaku -- please talk to him and his manager to see if there is interest." Lukaku will say Tuchel convinced him of something only footballers say, while in reality the money (and Luakaku's agent) did all the convincing needed. 😉 bohops, OhForAGreavsie and Boycie 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,187 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, ulvhedin said: Emerson oficially solid, just 15-20 more players future to be solved Edited August 23, 2022 by Vesper ulvhedin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,187 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 9 hours ago, blahblahblah said: One of the reasons i would not mind us sacking him right now. Buying gordon and auba for 85m combined, we will be (are) the laughing stock. The new manager will need to use this dross for a season before discarding them through the loan system and us cribbing about our bloated squad. Unbelievable how shit we look on and off the field. we are not going to sack tuchel now, ffs bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) Funny how the tables turn here, from wishes to secure Tuchel for next decade to wanting to sack him after sloppy stint, that surely has more causes than TT himself and reminds nothing of situations when he was sacked from PSG and Dortmund. This is not FIFA and huge club doesn't actually rebuild, replace entire squad and do a 180 flip in philiosophy and business operations in a day, by decision of a single person. Easy to speak after time, but on a sidenote, I guess if Marina fired up her computer and only followed a general sentiment in this thread when hiring any personnel, we would probably be around bottom of National League, bankrupted seven times by now. I know most football fans has a short fuse, but damn, some folks should take a deeper breath sometimes <; Edited August 23, 2022 by Vegetable manpe, Boycie, ChrissWTF and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Vegetable said: Funny how the tables turn here, from wishes to secure Tuchel for next decade to wanting to sack him after sloppy stint Not the same people who said that to be fair. Really baffles me how someone can think any available manager would do significantly better with this squad than Tuchel. For me he's earned himself enough credit in the bank to continue his squad building and see how it goes. Only thing that would make me change my mind on whether he's the right man for us would be a meltdown like Mourinho 2015 or downing tools like Conte 2018. Edited August 23, 2022 by Jype Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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