Jype 6,398 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, blahblahblah said: Leave that aside. The same manager bought 100m Lukaku to be his strike man, and instead of replacing him with a similar mold of player, he is replacing him with auba. Are they 2 even similar from any pov? Well seeing as how horribly wrong the Lukaku transfer went and how much of a misfit to the game system he turned out to be, doesn't it make sense to at least try with a different kind of striker rather than double down on the previous mistake and getting another similar type of striker? And that's not me saying I think Auba is an ideal solution but Lukaku or someone similar to him sure as hell isn't either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,832 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 From all reports, it seems as if TT was not onboard with the Lukaku signing... Raphina, Sterling, Gordon, Auba, Leao, etc... All the forward players we seem to want or got are great at pressing and putting some pressure on. KK, Fofana, Kounde, De Ligt, etc... All defenders who are great at playing the ball out and distributing the ball. Let him build the damn team. He came in and won a CL after half a season of making players fit. He then had a season where we were banned from transfers or contact to other teams to even spend money due to sanctions. You guys are munted if you think anyone could do a better job given the circumstances. He has a pretty clear vision if you look at the players he is trying to get. We clearly need a goalscorer and a DM. We can't get it all sorted in one transfer window unfortunately. I'm guessing the plan is Rice next year. Get a stop gap forward like Auba for this coming season to at least compete, etc. Next year will be the one where we are fully locked and loaded. Only fair to give the man some time to build his team. Try and be a team that wins the cups. We aren't loaded enough atm to be consistent over the course of a season, but we can compete in cups. bigbluewillie and ChrissWTF 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahblahblah 73 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jype said: Well seeing as how horribly wrong the Lukaku transfer went and how much of a misfit to the game system he turned out to be, doesn't it make sense to at least try with a different kind of striker rather than double down on the previous mistake and getting another similar type of striker? And that's not me saying I think Auba is an ideal solution but Lukaku or someone similar to him sure as hell isn't either. My point was on the poster who claimed that the manager needs time to get the type of players he wants. My point is simply : Does the manager have any clue what he wants and what can work? Last season there was a 3 striker shortlist going on: haaland, Lukaku, Kane. Each of them is as different as they can possibly be. Again, is their a method to his buying? I don't see it. I don't think he is buying auba because of his game style, he is simply buying auba because he was an ex player and thinks he can roll back time. I did not like jorgi from day1, always thought he was a misfit for PL. But atleast you could see what sarri WANTED to do. Why jorgi of all players available was bought by him. With TT it's as random as it can be. It's bordering on nonsensical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,349 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, lucio said: If we don’t have the players for the formation, then the formation is the problem too. No one is forcing tuchel to play a formation which doesn’t work. He should be more inventive Problem is with that is its far to easy to sit here and say 4 at the back is better. We don't train these guys we only see then in league play. We have played 3 at the back since conte pretty much so all these players were signed for a 3 at the back system just used in different ways. What makes you think these players can play a back 4 any better than a back 3? Changing to a back 4 is not a miracle answer it won't just suddenly click, we have to then go back into the market for players of that system etc etc. The way we played against Tottenham was brilliant we just lacked attacking threat with not having a true number 9. Against Leeds we didn't have a DMF if kante was fit that game wouldn't of been 3-0, we are in a situation where we NEED a DMF a CF and a CB. Also ppl on here asking for potter as new manager? He also plays 3ATB Edited August 23, 2022 by Kong bigbluewillie and Superblue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,349 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 hour ago, blahblahblah said: My point was on the poster who claimed that the manager needs time to get the type of players he wants. My point is simply : Does the manager have any clue what he wants and what can work? Last season there was a 3 striker shortlist going on: haaland, Lukaku, Kane. Each of them is as different as they can possibly be. Again, is their a method to his buying? I don't see it. I don't think he is buying auba because of his game style, he is simply buying auba because he was an ex player and thinks he can roll back time. I did not like jorgi from day1, always thought he was a misfit for PL. But atleast you could see what sarri WANTED to do. Why jorgi of all players available was bought by him. With TT it's as random as it can be. It's bordering on nonsensical. There is a massive difference in knowing what you want and actually been able to get what you want. Never I a million years was we EVER going to get Haaland we also would NEVER get kane. Some of you don't believe that the sanctions fucked us way harder than we thought, other teams had months of negotiations on us, we didn't even no if we could pay for the damn bus to get players to games never mind summer transfers!! Now we are picking dreggs up to survive for another season in the top 4. Be as harsh on TT as you like no other top manager has had to go through what he has this year. Auba deffo not TTs first choice CF, and I highly doubt KK was his first choice CB either. And before ppl start saying KK was its his first choice target blah blah blah, what eles is he meant to say well we wanted 4 others but fuck it we settled with him? Never gunna happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,349 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 2 hours ago, blahblahblah said: supposedly they are better than Werner, Lukaku, Puli, cho and ziyech. Great call by TT. Werner has been an absolute flopp here no q can deny that a CF that doesn't score isn't worth keeping. Lukaku 8 goals for 100m (the only 1 on this list TT was in charge we signed) Puli really? His injury stat is his most impressive here Cho this useless cunt should of been sold when BM come knocking. Ziyech has done absolutely fuck all since he's been here aswell. Vesper, mkh and bigbluewillie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 3 hours ago, blahblahblah said: Anyone who thinks that a 33 year old auba, an unproven and mediocre at best Gordon is not the answer to our issues. Anyone who has the basic sense to see that we needed a DM before spending all the money on foolish buys. 🤡 So basically dodging the question. I'm all for Tuchel to be questioned and criticised, and I'm pro for sticking with him. But he's not bullet proof, no one is. But when you're spamming this forum with constant moaning and negativity but offering absolutely nothing by way of solutions, alternatives, etc you'll very quickly find you'll just end up being ignored for the most part. bigbluewillie and Sovieticus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahblahblah 73 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 18 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: So basically dodging the question. I'm all for Tuchel to be questioned and criticised, and I'm pro for sticking with him. But he's not bullet proof, no one is. But when you're spamming this forum with constant moaning and negativity but offering absolutely nothing by way of solutions, alternatives, etc you'll very quickly find you'll just end up being ignored for the most part. Not a scout dude. Never claimed to be. I love Chelsea, watch a decent amount of PL hence familiar with some of the names we are linked with. If you want me to be happy about signing or being rumored to sign auba, never gonna happen. He showed massive signs of decline at arsenal and was worse than what Lukaku was last season for us for almost 1.5 years. As far as Gordon is concerned, currently he will be lucky to make whu or Leicester teams who boast some not tier1 but good players. And i would rate gordon below them, signing him for 60m is the definition of a panic buy. Keeping him over some of the names we are willingly loaning or selling is criminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,743 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Yeah I think @blahbah is another troll. ChrissWTF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) Edited August 23, 2022 by Blues Forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,743 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: Not going to happen at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Fernando said: Not going to happen at this stage. Honestly we should walk away. Fofana hasn't been good lately, lost a yard of pace, and very average with the ball. ulsterchelsea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,377 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 What kind of incompetent bullshit is that? We’ve already bid twice and were instantly rejected so we increase the bid by a tiny amount and expect them to sell? This will probably just piss them off and they’ll refuse to sell to us now. And here I was hoping this would be sewn up BEFORE we played them this weekend. Now it probably won’t happen at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Seems like De Jong could be happening. Patrick is working for Ali Dursun (De Jong's agent) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,377 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Don’t know what our club were expecting. We’re they hoping that since Fofana’s head was turned Leicester would just give up and sell him for much cheaper than their valuation? They were never going to sell him for a penny less than what they got for Maguire years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahblahblah 73 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: Seems like De Jong could be happening. Patrick is working for Ali Dursun (De Jong's agent) Now this will be a transfer that could instantly have a massive impact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,668 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 auba and gordon will be our new players and thats it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: Seems like De Jong could be happening. Patrick is working for Ali Dursun (De Jong's agent) And the Agent of Van de Beek and Lindelöf 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,407 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Hello Adam Webster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,377 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Another weekend of Reece at CB then. 😫😫😫 bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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