Jype 6,398 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Tomo said: The idea that Haaland would have been long term is extremely naive. Raiola would have his next move mapped out before he even signed. This 100%. Sure he'll sign a 5-6 year contract so (assuming there's no release clause) he should spend at least 3-4 years at his next club but that's when it gets really tricky. Either Haaland & Raiola will start engineering a move elsewhere at that point and there's not all that much the club can do about it given only 1-2 years left on the contract, or if the club have been super successful and won lots of trophies they might be willing to negotiate a contract extension. But what happens when you try to extend a Raiola player who's already on massive wages (£400K/wk minimum) and the player's shown he's got what it takes to succeed at the very highest level? They'll demand even more money. Raiola has already said publicly they're planning for Haaland to become a £1M/wk player at some point in his career so keeping him for +10 years is completely out of the question wherever he goes. Panic and Tomo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Broja oficially loaned to Southampton: https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2021/08/10/broja-completes-premier-league-loan?cardIndex=0-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,697 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 17 minutes ago, ulvhedin said: Broja oficially loaned to Southampton: https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2021/08/10/broja-completes-premier-league-loan?cardIndex=0-0 Che Adams, Michael Obafemi, Shane Long and Adam Armstrong(not confirmed yet) can be his concurency. He should be able to get minutes able to compete with these guys, if not, he'd have no chance with Lukaku and Werner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, nyikolajevics said: Che Adams, Michael Obafemi, Shane Long and Adam Armstrong(not confirmed yet) can be his concurency. He should be able to get minutes able to compete with these guys, if not, he'd have no chance with Lukaku and Werner. You never know with these loans. Obviously it makes more sense for Soton to not play Broja and let the other guys play instead, who are at Soton for the long term. Broja will only be there for one season. Nothing more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,697 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, killer1257 said: You never know with these loans. Obviously it makes more sense for Soton to not play Broja and let the other guys play instead, who are at Soton for the long term. Broja will only be there for one season. Nothing more Agree, but Southampton will probably have relegation threat during the season, won't be able to afford not to play the best players. If Broja is their best striker then he will play. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 minute ago, nyikolajevics said: Agree, but Southampton will probably have relegation threat during the season, won't be able to afford not to play the best players. If Broja is their best striker then he will play. This is hopefully true. Broja offers things the other strikers do not have. Broja is 191 cm tall, very fast and can also score with his head. I don't see Long, Armstrong and Adams have Broja's characteristics. I will watch a lot of his games and Livra. So pleased for both of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, killer1257 said: You never know with these loans. Obviously it makes more sense for Soton to not play Broja and let the other guys play instead, who are at Soton for the long term. Broja will only be there for one season. Nothing more True, but it's not like Shane Long is a long-term player for them either. He turns 35 in January and is out of contract next summer. And Michael Obafemi has been a fringe player for them anyway and is also out of contract next year, so without a huge improvement this season I can't see him staying there much longer either. Unless he's a total flop in training Broja should be ahead of those two at the very least. That would leave Armstrong and Adams as his main competition for playing time, and I think Soton play with two strikers so whether it's as a starter or a substitute he should get minutes in most games. Of course there's risks that he might get stuck on the bench with little playing time, but this is a massive opportunity for Broja. He has a chance to prove himself at the best league in the world so let's hope he keeps his momentum going from last season instead of wasting a year and then having to take a step backwards (like Tammy after Swansea loan). Edited August 10, 2021 by Jype killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 44 minutes ago, nyikolajevics said: Che Adams, Michael Obafemi, Shane Long and Adam Armstrong(not confirmed yet) can be his concurency. He should be able to get minutes able to compete with these guys, if not, he'd have no chance with Lukaku and Werner. Based on quality alone, Broja should prevail but the others are more experienced in English senior footy so the temptation is there for Southampton to stick with them. I don't think they will just sit him on the bench all the time,they pay him after all. in the end small clubs know most quality players will not stay for long no matter if they are loaned or bought. they have to survive and if that requires playing a loanee they will do it. Some might still appreciate the player as Wigan did with Reece if the quality is just too much to ignore or try to sway him like everton with lukaku. The problem with loans is, if the loanplayer is just ok-ish he will be scrutinized more critically and play less than he deserves killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,318 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 On 08/08/2021 at 01:12, Marvin123 said: I'm getting pissed off with lukaku haters on here. You're just annoyed you didn't get the latest poster boy in halaand. If there was no rumours and gossip on halaand you would be so happy right now. You lot are not real Chelsea fans at all. For me Lukaku is not in that category but I think people just dont like him in general. I feel that way with Sterling, Mane...They are both 100m players maybe but I would not take them for free, I am just so annoyed with them, by just looking at them... So maybe some people feel that way with Lukaku... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,697 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 What about Koundé? Rumours have silenced nowadays, papers claimed it was nearly done deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,814 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Fabrizio tweeted last week that Kounde was on hold until the Lukaku deal was completed. He said both sides are still negotiating. nyikolajevics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,318 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 100M and Alonso is way better offer than just 115m. Inter is weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,318 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Also, I see many people here want Spurs to lose Kane... Which would be worst news to us. I really think Kane to City or not is title decider. They got Grealish but they also have other players who produce crazy numbers on his position. They lost Aguero and are left only with Jesus average player as classic striker. Which is like Chelsea having only Abraham. And now with Lukaku we could be front runners. If they get Kane they would be clearly... So people need to focus on Chelsea and our biggest rival City. Forget about your hate for Spurs because Kane or no Kane they are not a threat. bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,050 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: 100M and Alonso is way better offer than just 115m. Inter is weird. They need the money more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,164 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 13 hours ago, nyikolajevics said: 28 is perfect age. Also, nowadays lots of players nearing their mid thirties are playing on high level. every non GKer over 31yo who is good enough to start for us (at least some of the time and if no Lukaku) there is not that many we do not already have by descending age Zlatan Ibrahimovic Cristiano Ronaldo Giorgio Chiellini Luka Modric Sergio Ramos Gerard Piqué Lionel Messi Edinson Cavani Luis Suárez Dries Mertens (iffy, very iffy now that he is 34yo and slowing down) Leonardo Bonucci 32-33yo atm Robert Lewandowski Karim Benzema Ángel Di María Gareth Bale ????? Sergio Agüero ?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 psg announce Messi before Chelsea announce Lukaku 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 5 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: For me Lukaku is not in that category but I think people just dont like him in general. I feel that way with Sterling, Mane...They are both 100m players maybe but I would not take them for free, I am just so annoyed with them, by just looking at them... So maybe some people feel that way with Lukaku... That could be considered racist, considering you didn't mention Grealish in that post. I am sure you aren't but just pointing out 😮 Boycie and NikkiCFC 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,318 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Stats said: That could be considered racist, considering you didn't mention Grealish in that post. I am sure you aren't but just pointing out 😮 Lol ok I add Kane and Suarez on that list. I actually like Grealish. Edited August 10, 2021 by NikkiCFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin123 530 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 46 minutes ago, Stats said: That could be considered racist, considering you didn't mention Grealish in that post. I am sure you aren't but just pointing out 😮 Hope your joking... Because if not your a waste of life realising that and then pointing it out in public Boycie, Warning_Hazard and kiwi1691 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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