MoroccanBlue 5,380 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 30 minutes ago, King Kante said: Bate's biggest problem is Billy. Billy seems to be the long term replacement for Jorgi so his road to the first team is highly difficult. I understand why he wants to leave. It’s actually Kovacic in my opinion. Our system has two roles in midfield. Advancer and sitter. Advancers are Kovacic and Kante and the sitters are Jorginho and Gilmour. Bate is a player that dribbles in transition similar to Kovacic that allows him in advanced positions. It’s no surprised we had so many holes in midfield under Lampard because either Kante (an advancer) was a lone DM and/or we had a pivot of two advancers (Kante + Kovacic). The Bayern game a prime example of how unbalanced it is. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 36 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: It’s actually Kovacic in my opinion. Our system has two roles in midfield. Advancer and sitter. Advancers are Kovacic and Kante and the sitters are Jorginho and Gilmour. Bate is a player that dribbles in transition similar to Kovacic that allows him in advanced positions. It’s no surprised we had so many holes in midfield under Lampard because either Kante (an advancer) was a lone DM and/or we had a pivot of two advancers (Kante + Kovacic). The Bayern game a prime example of how unbalanced it is. Yeah, but Kova is only 27, he still has tons of time. Jorgi is 29/30 and only has two years left. He imo, is the player that will be replaced by either a Billy/Bate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,380 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, King Kante said: Yeah, but Kova is only 27, he still has tons of time. Jorgi is 29/30 and only has two years left. He imo, is the player that will be replaced by either a Billy/Bate. Both Billy and Bate would attribute a balanced midfield. One advancer and one sitter. Based on attributes, Gilmour has qualities similar to Jorginho. I personally don’t think Gilmour is getting in the way. Different roles within the midfield. Edited July 20, 2021 by MoroccanBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 Hopefully immediate minutes was why they moved as opposed to any internal issue. If it was the former we should have a chance of getting them back in the future if they become the business, all be it at a cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, King Kante said: Must be as a RWB and/or Ziyech is getting sold. Would explain Livra's position as he could easily be a first team player this season without CHO playing there. Bate's biggest problem is Billy. Billy seems to be the long term replacement for Jorgi so his road to the first team is highly difficult. I understand why he wants to leave. However, I would want £10m for him with his reputation. Nah, Kepa will stay here. Let's be real. Kepa is absolutely dog sh*t. Even if he goes on loan, who seriously thinks he is going to start playing well with all his flaws? For me, he will ride out his £170k a week play the odd game here and there and slide on his knees if we win something. 10m for someone who hasnt played a first team game? And his contract is running down no? No chance. Edited July 20, 2021 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,252 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 im tired to wait for news... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,072 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 hours ago, King Kante said: Bate's biggest problem is Billy. Billy seems to be the long term replacement for Jorgi so his road to the first team is highly difficult. I understand why he wants to leave. However, I would want £10m for him with his reputation. Just for the record, I prefer Lewis over Billy if it comes down to one or the other. Sadly it does not seem any Chelsea manager will have to make such a choice for real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syltherin 25 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 we better put the buyback clause on Bate and Livramento in the future,,i really highly rated both of them. especially livramento,,since James move permanent to RCB position in Tuchel era,,he can easily get a main RWB. i don't trust CHO as a wing back,,he should compete to fill once position of the front three not the wing back. it could kill his goal/assist mentality in the future.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 45 minutes ago, Syltherin said: we better put the buyback clause on Bate and Livramento in the future,,i really highly rated both of them. especially livramento,,since James move permanent to RCB position in Tuchel era,,he can easily get a main RWB. i don't trust CHO as a wing back,,he should compete to fill once position of the front three not the wing back. it could kill his goal/assist mentality in the future.... Not going to happen, apparently we only put sell on clause for Bate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ZAPHOD2319 4,814 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Is there any other clubs the rags want to link Tammy to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Syltherin 25 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: Is there any other clubs the rags want to link Tammy to? if they can buying ben white for £50m,,i don't think marina would sell tammy only for £40m to the rival. it just doesn't make sense.... Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Tammy has to go to WHU for Declan Rice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,072 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 10 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: It’s actually Kovacic in my opinion. I agree that if comparing playing styles there is more similarity between Lewis & Kova than there is between Lewis & Billy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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