Chelsea Transfers

[Vesper 29,171]

44 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Meh. If we wanted a poacher or strictly penalty box striker we’d just keep Tammy since that’s all he is.

We need someone who offers much more. DCL isn’t good enough for Chelsea and he isn’t scaring any of our rivals if we’re playing them.

so if no Håland, Mbappe, Lewa, Lukaku, Kane, DCL, or Lautaro

which one of these 3

 Dusan Vlahovic,  Alexander Isak, or Youssef En-Nesyri?

surely not Richardson or Martial or Icardi or Gabriel Jesus

Schick would be a Euros star gamble (think Bats)

Jonathan David needs another year for me to make a call, Immobile is never leaving Lazio unless its 35yo plus cash out in MLS or something, and CR7 would never play for any other English club other than Manure. Moise Kean was a bust in the EPL, and I need to see another season or two from him to remotely consider him, now that he seems to be improving a lot. Patson Daka is off the board (Leicester) I do not rate Belotti that much.

Moreno is nearly 30 and fuck Spanish strikers. Jovic is shit. I am not sold on André Silva or Victor Osimhen atm at all. I do not rate Depay and he is going to Barca anyway.

 

I think I have listed almost every actual viable CF linked with us

Edited June 27, 2021 by Vesper

[Pizy 18,516]

1 minute ago, Vesper said:

so if no Håland, Mbappe, Lewa, Lukaku, Kane, DCL, or Lautaro

which one of these 3

 Dusan Vlahovic,  Alexander Isak, or Youssef En-Nesyri?

surely not Richardson or Martial or Icardi or Gabriel Jesus

Schick would be a Euros star gamble (think Bats)

Jonathan David needs another year for me to make a call, Immobile is never leaving Lazio unless its 35yo plus cash out in MLS or something, and CR7 would never play for any other English club other than Manure. Moise Kean was a bust in the EPL, and I need to see another season or two from him to remotely consider him, now that he seems to be improving a lot. Patson Daka is off the board (Leicester)

Moreno is nearly 30 and fuck Spanish strikers. Jivic is shit. I am not sold on André Silva or Victor Osimhen atm at all. I do not rate Depay and he is going to Barca anyway.

 

I think I have listed almost every viable link CF

Vlahovic, by far for me. 

[Superblue 6,372]

3 hours ago, Vesper said:

Missing out on Hakimi has primed me for missing out on Håland. I am resigned to plan B (Traore) for Hakimi.

Plan B for Håland should be Mbappe, and if not him, Lewa, and if not him, DCL, and if not him, whichever we think is best between these three:  Dusan Vlahovic, Isak, or Youssef En-Nesyri.

Beyond the first 3, we roll with what we already have.

[Vesper 29,171]

7 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Vlahovic, by far for me. 

the one thing I do not like about Youssef En-Nesyri (24 goals for Sevilla in less than 3000 minutes) and he is 1.89m, string in the air, has good pace, is ZERO assists

so for me, if we assume all my postitings

Vlahovic or Isak for me

hell, if we miss out on Håland, we can buy them both for less cash, lolol (and Isak can play winger as well)

[Vesper 29,171]

8 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Beyond the first 3, we roll with what we already have.

with Tammy and Giroud leaving, that is not going to happen

[Magic Lamps 11,677]

6 minutes ago, Vesper said:

the one thing I do not like about Youssef En-Nesyri (24 goals for Sevilla in less than 3000 minutes) and he is 1.89m, string in the air, has good pace, is ZERO assists

so for me, if we assume all my postitings

Vlahovic or Isak for me

hell, if we miss out on Håland, we can buy them both for less cash, lolol (and Isak can play winger as well)

En-nesyri is a terrible player IMO. at least from the 5 sevilla games i saw last season he was absolute pants in all of them. don't see anything outstanding about him. i dont eventhink he aerial ability will be anything specialin PL

[Jase 43,479]

5 minutes ago, Vesper said:

with Tammy and Giroud leaving, that is not going to happen

Wouldn't rule out one of them staying if we can't get anyone suitable at all. 

[Vesper 29,171]

12 minutes ago, Jas said:

Wouldn't rule out one of them staying if we can't get anyone suitable at all. 

Tuchel doesn't rate Tammy at all

[Vesper 29,171]

17 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

En-nesyri is a terrible player IMO. at least from the 5 sevilla games i saw last season he was absolute pants in all of them. don't see anything outstanding about him. i dont eventhink he aerial ability will be anything specialin PL

he is the deffo last of those 3 for me

I do not like his zero assists

[Magic Lamps 11,677]

1 minute ago, Vesper said:

Tuchel doesn't rate Tammy at all

the one major gripe i have with TT. His treatment of Tammy. Despite never being a big fan of Tammy, i think he is more useful than the odd stoppage time cameo TT affords him. Especially vs shit teams like Arsenal, Southamtpon or Leeds where we were held, he could have made a difference early on.

[Jase 43,479]

3 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Tuchel doesn't rate Tammy at all

Plans may have to change if we can't sell him and/or can't buy a suitable player. 

[Strike 7,285]

https://www.rousingthekop.com/2021/06/23/its-logical-lille-director-admits-renato-sanches-is-available/

Renato Sanches is available btw

[Stats 7,060]

1 hour ago, Pizy said:

Meh. If we wanted a poacher or strictly penalty box striker we’d just keep Tammy since that’s all he is.

We need someone who offers much more. DCL isn’t good enough for Chelsea and he isn’t scaring any of our rivals if we’re playing them.

Honestly, DCL is far from a poaches or tap-in merchant. He has brilliant hold up play, is brilliant in the air and also has pace. His game has evolved and he pretty much is a top all rounded striker. I probably would say he is the best header of the ball in the league in terms of providing a goalscoring threat. Allso can play on the shoulder and run past his defender.

[Superblue 6,372]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

with Tammy and Giroud leaving, that is not going to happen

It would completely have to be on our terms firstly to let them leave. 

Like @Jas said, if our plans don't come to fruition then one may be retained. I'd personally prefer Tammy to stay and Tuchel to try and get the best out of him. However I'm fully aware of his contract situation and if a bid of £30-40m did come in for him then it would be difficult for us to turn it down. So I think Giroud would be the more likely to stay.

The other option is to find more of a stop gap option next season to not disrupt plans for the following summer. Perhaps promote Broja to the first team squad as an extra attacker? Or is there a veteran type that could be picked up cheap and fulfil a role similar to Giroud? 

What we don't want is to spend a fortune on a player who appears high risk before a ball is kicked and leaves us stuck with them if they flop, when better options may be available next summer.

[NikkiCFC 8,067]

I don't expect anything to happen in the next 3 weeks. Maybe 3rd GK would be fine. 

[Vesper 29,171]

1 hour ago, Stats said:

Honestly, DCL is far from a poaches or tap-in merchant. He has brilliant hold up play, is brilliant in the air and also has pace. His game has evolved and he pretty much is a top all rounded striker. I probably would say he is the best header of the ball in the league in terms of providing a goalscoring threat. Allso can play on the shoulder and run past his defender.

yes, it makes you wonder if some of these people even watch other games

[Superblue 6,372]

4 hours ago, Pizy said:

I see you mention Calvert Lewin often here. You really think he’s good enough? I certainly don’t. I think Everton is his perfect level and he’d struggle with the weight of being at a big club as a massive money signing. He’s basically just a tap in merchant like Chicharito.

That’s not even taking into account the fact that even if we were interested Everton would demand £80m or more and he sure as shit ain’t worth near that.

Calvert-Lewin is a much better player than you're giving him credit for.

From what I've seen, his all round game is significantly better than Tammy and his aerial strength in particular would offer a different option.

The 'moving to a big club' question unfortunately is one of those that you just don't know until it happens.

My bigger concern would be that Everton don't need to sell him and quite frankly wouldn't want to. As a result you'd be looking at a transfer that would probably be £60-80m range which is simply too much for him at present.

[Pizy 18,516]

52 minutes ago, Vesper said:

yes, it makes you wonder if some of these people even watch other games

I watch plenty of other games, thanks. He’s a solid striker, nothing more.