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[NikkiCFC 8,292]

Bamford would be nice backup here. 

Upgrade on Tammy and suited for Tuchel's football. 

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Bamford coming here as a back up is a stupid thought. He's a player that is trying to play, not be benched.

 

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On 18/03/2021 at 17:11, OneMoSalah said:

Tbf though this is the first season in his 10 seasons in England where it looks like he may struggle to reach 25 appearances in the PL, which even then I think theres still 10 games or so left so he will break 20 appearances surely unless Pep continues with his false 9 system a lot.

It appears he has missed 51 games in all competitions in the last 3 seasons according to this (https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sergio-aguero/verletzungen/spieler/26399) but considering he had a knee injury last season which he was out for 115 days - which equals to 17 of those games and then missed 10 due to contracting covid (which is a one off and hopefully be an avoidable issue for next season with these vaccines and procedures clubs set), only missing 24 games across the last 3 seasons (averaging 7 per season across all competitions in seasons which there are easily 50+ games) due to smaller injuries, its not that bad. It’s actually probably pretty routine to miss a handful of games each season. That knee injury last season is the only big sort of injury that has kept him out for a significant period of time. Would say for someone who is 32 (I think 32 anyway, maybe 33 at a push?) and has been playing most weeks for the best part of 15 years, as well as regularly with his national team at friends, qualifiers and then repeating tournaments like the World Cups and Copa Americas, that is hardly that bad at injury record at club level.

It was effectively the same argument when we were linked with Cavani last season. Aguero usually gets around 10-15 PL goals every season as a minimum if he plays in 20-25 games either as a starter/sub. Even then, managed correctly, he would still do the business. 100%.

I do think City would be fools to let him go as well in all honesty. Its like PSG with Thiago in the summer also, which was our gain. For me, Aguero is still an elite player, I think it would be mad to not consider him if he is available for a season or two at least on a free. Obviously as well if Haaland goes elsewhere as most imagine, again, top CFs will be hard to come by and if City don’t get Haaland they will in all likelihood try and retain Aguero you would think. But we will see. 

I agree. Agüero's inury problems are greatly exaggerated as a smoke screen for Pep to phase him out due to his dislike for him. I would rather have signed him 10 years ago, but Agüero still is only the same age as Lewandowski who is in the form of his life. If given confidence again and if he stayed injury free i could easily see Agüero having another 20+ goals season in PL.

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3 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Bamford would be nice backup here. 

Upgrade on Tammy and suited for Tuchel's football. 

Knew someone would suggest it at some point.

He’s always been a decent all round player but lets see what like his return is next season, could be a one season wonder in terms of his goals, might not be.

He has impressed me but at the same time I always think it is easy to get carried away with these sort of players, look at Teemu Pukki, Amir Zaki, Michu, Roque Santa-Cruz... all one season wonders in terms of their goal returns in their first PL season, yet people probably thought they could play for a higher team yet they never did or were never at the level.

Plus why would he come here when he is effectively one of the first names on the Leeds team sheet and was really close to getting in the England team? Would be the stupidest move out there. Everyone always think players want to be back ups and maybe there is a percentage who do but guys who are inching towards their NT squad don’t want to be backups realistically. Which is why Abraham is also probably unhappy with his situation this season since Tuchel’s came in.

 

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50 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Plus why would he come here when he is effectively one of the first names on the Leeds team sheet and was really close to getting in the England team? Would be the stupidest move out there. Everyone always think players want to be back ups and maybe there is a percentage who do but guys who are inching towards their NT squad don’t want to be backups realistically. Which is why Abraham is also probably unhappy with his situation this season since Tuchel’s came in.

But Bamford is 28 soon. And like you said depends on players. It would not be stupid and weird move at all. 

With this logic Jota would never come to Pool since they had established front 3? Mahrez in first season had less minutes than Sterling, Silva, Sane, other Silva and still came to City.

We have similar examples in Chelsea. Demba Ba scored 16 PL goals in 11/12 season for Newcastle and 13 in half season 12/13 and came to Chelsea to be basically 3rd choice.

Loic Remy 14 goals in 26 games for Newcastle in 13/14 season again came to Chelsea to be backup. Players want to play for top clubs. And I would feel the same way. If I am Zaha I would rather be on big6 rotation than best Palace player. Because it bring glamour, more money, CL...  And it is not like those players wont play at all. From the bench you get 1500-2000 minutes per season. If you believe in your abilities you can grab your chance and maybe become a starter.

 

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Bamford 🤣 

No thanks.

 

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6 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

But Bamford is 28 soon. And like you said depends on players. It would not be stupid and weird move at all. 

With this logic Jota would never come to Pool since they had established front 3? Mahrez in first season had less minutes than Sterling, Silva, Sane, other Silva and still came to City.

We have similar examples in Chelsea. Demba Ba scored 16 PL goals in 11/12 season for Newcastle and 13 in half season 12/13 and came to Chelsea to be basically 3rd choice.

Loic Remy 14 goals in 26 games for Newcastle in 13/14 season again came to Chelsea to be backup. Players want to play for top clubs. And I would feel the same way. If I am Zaha I would rather be on big6 rotation than best Palace player. Because it bring glamour, more money, CL...  And it is not like those players wont play at all. From the bench you get 1500-2000 minutes per season. If you believe in your abilities you can grab your chance and maybe become a starter.

As you sort of alluded to there, I don't think every player will just blindly join a big club just because it's a big club, especially when (a) that player is first choice at their current club and (b) we have so many attacking players right now that some are finding it hard to get consistent game time already. Am sure Bamford isn't blind to those facts and he would probably know a thing or two about how things work here more than most.

Jota went to Liverpool probably because he was told he would be the first in line to play whenever Salah/Firmino/Mane is rested. Regardless of how established those 3 are, they can't play every game and they're also getting older and can't go on forever. Age is on Jota's side, meaning he would have fancied his chances to become first choice eventually.

Demba Ba and Remy may have joined us but the former was sold after just 2 seasons and the latter was loaned out after also only 2 seasons. Ba also joined us at a time when we don't have proper ST and Remy said recently that while it wasn't a mistake to join us, he was not happy with the lack of game time because it felt like it was wasting his time and slowed down his career.

Also, let's not kid ourselves here. He may have scored more goals than our players this season but in terms of his overall ability, would Bamford get ahead of our attacking players right now? Plus, IF we somehow manage to sign Haaland, then Bamford's not going to start ahead of him and if it's not Haaland, then Bamford's not going to start ahead of Havertz or even Werner, based on how Tuchel has been using him in the #9 role. 

Moreover, is Bamford actually good or is he actually having one of those good first proper season in the Premier League? He scored only 1 goal in 27 Premier League appearances prior to this season. Plus, is he only doing well because there's less pressure at Leeds and Bielsa's playing style suits him? 

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On 13/03/2021 at 11:04, Azul said:

After the rumours of us being very interested in Tchouameni as well, I think that we're going to sign a player from Ligue 1. That league has a lot of financial issues right now, because the TV deal they've had with Mediapro was worth 3.25billion euro's. Mediapro decided to go back on their deal in the second instalment of that payment, so all of the Ligue 1 clubs excluding PSG, that relied on this TV money during the pandemic are in a crisis right now. That means that Ligue 1 players will be very cheap. You'll see talents like Kamara, Tchouameni, Soumare be sold for 20-30m euro's. These players are better than Rice who's worth over 80m and we should sign them to be fair.

Don't forget Camavinga. 

The money dictates raiding Ligue 1, but holy shit am I going to go bonkers if Manure (or less likely Pool) lands Declan Rice. Only player I agreed with Lamps on in terms of targets we do not have. He wanted some shit as well. Chilwell was also his lad. Supposedly the only one of the 6 who came in the summer. Look how that is working out atm.

I so stand by by Theo Hernandez want. He was great against Manure, AC just had far too many crucial players out. Tomori was really good as well.

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Milan are planning to activate the option to buy Chelsea's Fikayo Tomori. Negotiations will start in a few weeks but there is great satisfaction about the loanee's performances.

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Here's a random name popping up...

 

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Shit winger. Average right back. 

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