The Tuchel Thread

[Tomo 21,751]

The biggest statement he can make right now is to send the U23's (and Bettenelli) out against Chesterfield, maybe even have Andy Myers managing the game.

I'd feel bad for them as they'd have got a big tie only for it to turn into a glorified EFL trophy match but I don't see how we've got any other choice.

[Laylabelle 9,536]

33 minutes ago, Tomo said:

The biggest statement he can make right now is to send the U23's (and Bettenelli) out against Chesterfield, maybe even have Andy Myers managing the game.

I'd feel bad for them as they'd have got a big tie only for it to turn into a glorified EFL trophy match but I don't see how we've got any other choice.

It's a shame for them it's not on telly really. The teams that have been picked most play each other twice anyway.

Wonder what he will do for that one

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

5 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

It's a shame for them it's not on telly really. The teams that have been picked most play each other twice anyway.

Wonder what he will do for that one

U23's and Barkley, Sarr, Ruben, Saul, and Bettenelli

[Tomo 21,751]

26 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

U23's and Barkley, Sarr, Ruben, Saul, and Bettenelli

I'd say not risk any of them bar the latter (on the assumption he wants his token appearance if he's not arsed give him the time off too). As horrifying as it is to think about we're a few more injuries away from having to rely on all of those above.

Give the squad as many days off as we possibly can without buggering match fitness, they need a mental break aswell as a physical one.

[NikkiCFC 8,334]

4 minutes ago, Tomo said:

 

Give the squad as many days off as we possibly can without buggering match fitness, they need a mental break aswell as a physical one.

Break is coming after 23rd January. 

[Superblue 6,372]

4 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Break is coming after 23rd January. 

But before that we have 5 games in 13 days from tomorrow. 

I would agree that the Chesterfield game needs heavy rotation. Maybe not to the degree of just fielding a complete U23 team.

It represents a good game for some players like Barkley and Sarr to play, like the Brentford game did. @Tomomentioned we're a couple of injuries away from relying on them, but on the flip side you'd also not want them coming into the team cold if that situation happened. It may also represent an opportunity for a couple of players to get some fitness for 45-60 minutes like Werner who may need the game as a key run out.

[Henrique 9,133]

On 30/12/2021 at 03:17, Strike said:

There is a big difference. We are looking to bridge that gap to the top 2. We wont get there overnight.

There is no difference, and we dont need to bridge any gap to City or Liverpool, we actually just beat City in a UCL final few months ago...and you can go from finishing 10th in a season to winning the league in another one. 

This squad is good enough to win PL, and Im pretty sure If the players were available, at this point the team would be sitting confortably at the top of the league.

This team will finish inside top 4, and will win at least a major trophy this season.

 

Edited January 2, 2022 by Henrique

[Superblue 6,372]

6 hours ago, Henrique said:

There is no difference, and we dont need to bridge any gap to City or Liverpool, we actually just beat City in a UCL final few months ago...and you can go from finishing 10th in a season to winning the league in another one. 

This squad is good enough to win PL, and Im pretty sure If the players were available, at this point the team would be sitting confortably at the top of the league.

This team will finish inside top 4, and will win at least a major trophy this season.

 

There is a difference between having yo-yo seasons where we're up there and then not compared to consistently challenging for the league title. We haven't shown the ability to do this for the last decade.

And we are very capable of beating anyone on our day, hence the UCL triumph last season but to consistently churn out win after win, week after week we haven't shown this for a long time and this consistency is something we do need to bridge between us and City (and a lesser extent Liverpool).

I do agree though if we hadn't have been decimated in recent weeks by injuries and covid, I think we'd be comfortably at least around City still and there would be a much more interesting title race developing then there is now.

[Laylabelle 9,536]

7 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

There is a difference between having yo-yo seasons where we're up there and then not compared to consistently challenging for the league title. We haven't shown the ability to do this for the last decade.

And we are very capable of beating anyone on our day, hence the UCL triumph last season but to consistently churn out win after win, week after week we haven't shown this for a long time and this consistency is something we do need to bridge between us and City (and a lesser extent Liverpool).

I do agree though if we hadn't have been decimated in recent weeks by injuries and covid, I think we'd be comfortably at least around City still and there would be a much more interesting title race developing then there is now.

Apprently we've dropped 11 points from winning positions and watching us go ahead you can clearly see how and why. Thats something we need to fix fast and like you say consistency 

Its a shame its another title race we're not involved with..oh well.

[Fernando 6,585]

I think this is a perfect opportunity for us to get rid of rom. 

I think the club will back tuchel and get rid of rom. 

We should now buy the fiorentina striker 

 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

19 minutes ago, Fernando said:

I think this is a perfect opportunity for us to get rid of rom. 

I think the club will back tuchel and get rid of rom. 

We should now buy the fiorentina striker 

 

Fiorentina owner apparently eager to sell Vlahovic in January to avoid losing him to Juve. 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

33 minutes ago, Fernando said:

I think this is a perfect opportunity for us to get rid of rom. 

I think the club will back tuchel and get rid of rom. 

We should now buy the fiorentina striker 

 

When we signed Rom a lot of people complained about Serie A’s standards of defenders so is going for another CF who plays in Serie A necessarily a great idea? Or is just a matter of anybody but Romelu? Like it is for Alonso also re the links with Digne? 

Its hard to judge because he has had a fantastic 18 months or so but Lukaku also scored 64 goals for Inter in 2 seasons. Yes he’s younger but I just seem to get a sort of Stevan Jovic vibe off him right now.

I don’t buy that all of a sudden a lot of people have went from bashing Serie A standards and defenders when we were trying to buy/signed Rom to all off a sudden thinking its an incredible/much better standard now theres links to Vlahovic.

I do think Lukaku’s is in hot water though and could be expendable come the summer.

Edited January 2, 2022 by OneMoSalah

[Jase 43,479]

22 hours ago, Tomo said:

The biggest statement he can make right now is to send the U23's (and Bettenelli) out against Chesterfield, maybe even have Andy Myers managing the game.

I'd feel bad for them as they'd have got a big tie only for it to turn into a glorified EFL trophy match but I don't see how we've got any other choice.

Very surprised that came from you, Tomo. lol

As someone else has mentioned, it's a good chance to give some players who just came back from COVID, who maybe need game time to play. It could be a similar lineup to the one we saw against Zenit and/or Brentford in the cup. 

[Nero 1,874]

 

[manpe 10,861]

25 minutes ago, Nero said:

 

It's behind a paywall. What are the main points from that article?

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

36 minutes ago, Nero said:

 

It was never in question. Just hope the board feel the same way. 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

12 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

It was never in question. Just hope the board feel the same way. 

I don’t think it will be in any doubt, the board have made mistakes before but I don’t think anyone would be so stupid to back Lukaku over Tuchel. But at the same time, I think Tuchel may leave the door open for Rom to get back into the group pretty swiftly though if he apologises sufficiently enough that he, the players and also certain club personnel accept it and he then proceeds to gets with the programme.

I do think the situation will be re-evaluated in the summer due to the nature of the comments but I also think Tuchel wouldn’t be stupid to completely write off someone who may have some use to him throughout the second half of the season.

I mean he kept and has brought guys like Ruben and Ross in from the cold at the beginning of the season when others wouldn’t have because we’ve needed numbers/he’s seen they can maybe offer something so I don’t think Rom is going to be completely shunned up to the summer or sold this month.

Edited January 2, 2022 by OneMoSalah

[Strike 7,492]

11 hours ago, manpe said:

It's behind a paywall. What are the main points from that article?

Nothing really. Just as the headline suggested - fans are on Tuchel's side. Recaps his touchline antics from the Liverpool game. 

[Strike 7,492]

https://theathletic.com/3046668/2022/01/03/romelu-lukakus-interview-the-fallout-the-meetings-with-tuchel-the-future/

Excerpt - 

As one source explained to The Athletic: “I was speaking to one of the players and asked him if anyone was sticking up for Lukaku. He said no. None of them can believe he’s done it.”

Noticeably Tuchel appears to have the backing of the squad for how he dealt with Lukaku. He decided to confer with five or six senior players before making a final decision to omit Lukaku from the Liverpool game. It is believed that Jorginho, Cesar Azpilicueta, N’Golo Kante and Antonio Rudiger were among those consulted.

Asked why he felt the need to discuss it with squad members, he replied: “I don’t take decisions in the office or around my thoughts. I take decisions for the team and I listen to them. I hear their opinion, what they think and then I make my decisions once I hear them out. It is their club, their team and it is not a personal thing from me to decide only on my thoughts.

“We have a squad who we protect, which is strong in belief and behaviours. We want a clearer understanding of the situation and take a decision on a bigger foundation.”

[Strike 7,492]

Much more insights here. Really like Tuchel's reaction and handling so far.