The Tuchel Thread

[Gundalf 806]

Its really going quickly now. Probably already had talks before that. Wouldnt be surprised to see our next manager getting announced tomorrow. 

[ZAPHOD2319 4,819]

I bet Boehly's phone history has a recent call to Roman. 😈

[Superblue 6,372]

7 minutes ago, Jype said:

Would have expected him to be given time till at least a new DoF is appointed before getting the boot. Boehly and his band probably have no clue which manager to appoint that suits our current personnel.

In hindsight the writing's been on the wall since pre-season, and more specifically the Arsenal game. Not so much the performances in the pre-season games but the interviews Tuchel gave to the media, basically throwing a lot of players under the bus for not being committed both mentally and physically. The same kind of comments continued into the new season after almost every match, which indicated problems inside the dressing room.

What I don't get, however, is the timing of all this. Why was Tuchel being given lots of responsibility regarding transfer targets and player sales if the problems have been looming behind the scenes since pre-season? Now we have lots of players brought in for big money who may not even be good fits for the next manager. Aubameyang was brought in specifically to please Tuchel, while the likes of Werner, CHO, Gilmour were all let go because Tuchel didn't want to keep them. Now less than a week after the window is closed Tuchel is gone and the next manager might well have other ideas?

Player power at Chelsea FC strikes again. Even the ones who've previously played well under Tuchel's management seem to have turned shit overnight and it's not been a tactical issue either. It's fucking bullshit but nothing we can do about it really. Just hope whoever comes in can turn things around quickly because nothing's been lost yet and we have the quality to be better than the shite we've seen this season.

Potter would be my choice if he can be acquired. Could be willing to go for Pochettino or even Rodgers at a pinch if Potter is unavailable. Just need to stay clear of Zidane.

Aubameyang is the head scratcher, especially if reports are to be believed that Boehly really wanted Ronaldo instead.

But besides that I don't think the players we've signed are much of an issue with regards to a new manager and if anything whilst we still need time to reshape the squad, it is now set up better to play both back 4 and back 3 formations compared to last year. Fofana and Koulibaly allow us to play in a back 4 if we choose to which we didn't really have those options before their arrival with the other defenders we have. Cucurella similarly allows more flexibility than Alonso provided, and offers a genuine competition on the left flank to Chilwell. Sterling is a quality addition to the squad. Zakaria provides a different midfield option and in any way is short term if it doesn't work out. And the younger players have time to be moulded and coached anyway.

We're getting stories now that the board wanted Gordon but Tuchel didn't whereas during the window it was suggested Tuchel was pushing for him. This makes you question of all the players we did bid for in the summer, were they all Tuchel choices? Were some of the signings this summer a collaborative effort rather than simply just being Tuchel suggested? A lot of questions at the moment where I'm sure more things will be leaked in the coming days but I don't necessarily look at our squad and see it scream to me that its set up for Tuchel only.

[Special Juan 28,141]

We have met the release clause for Potter and Brighton have allowed Potter to speak to us.

[Vegetable 830]

We are headless chicken of a club, I'm sick of this way of management, don't care if a new temporary manager does good for another 9-15 months, we are never getting anywhere this way. 

 

Unless there was a major conflict between Tuchel and Board, as it was with him with previous clubs, I'm just pissed off. 

[Strike 7,491]

Sky reporting Potter headed to London to meet Boehly later this afternoon

[Gundalf 806]

Potter looking good atm.

Can he do it on a higher level tho?

 

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

Delighted with Potter, disgusted with Tuchel sacking. But its a way of life here now. Potter will be gone in under 3 years and we'll go again. Woeful 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

 

[Special Juan 28,141]

He's on his way to London apparently- Nothing Brighton can do the clause has been met it's out of the clubs hands.

Looks like this will happen.

[Superblue 6,372]

21 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

BHA seemed to be very stubborn about the Cucurella deal. Im suprised they let us talk to him. 

Maybe they already know he will turn us down tho. 

I think he has a release clause, so if Chelsea have indicated that they'd be willing to activate it they don't really have a choice.

Probably an incredibly difficult decision in Potter's shoes. He has a very comfortable position at Brighton punching above their weight but he'll know that there is a ceiling with the club and that it only takes a bad few months and his stock will fall. That opportunity at a big club might not come up again.

But he'll also on the flipside know that bigger clubs mean a lot more pressure. If he fails here, he could spend years trying to find what he had at Brighton.

The obvious comparison here is Moyes when he left Everton for United and only now at West Ham has he found something similar to what he had at Everton.

My gut feeling is that he'd find it hard to turn down.

[Gundalf 806]

What worries me is that English coaches normally dont win shit in the PL. 

[Milan 17,958]

With Potter being English, the media will cut us some slack again. Lampard could get us relegated and he would still be protected.

[milka 3,393]

 

[Gundalf 806]

I really want a squad clearout, a massive one. Passion, ambition, loyality -> skill. 

[Pizy 18,926]

So it’s Potter unless he turns it down, then.

Hope he’s allowed to bring his entire coaching staff and absolutely everything he asks for in order to replicate what he has done at Brighton. And these players better buy in.

[whats happening 1,618]

i bet he will turn us down, saying he wants to stay at brighton for this season.

 

35 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

3 players with shit personality. Werner is as shit for Leipzig btw. 

I wish we sign Streich from Freiburg. His philosophy is that when signing a player, its not his footballing ability which should be criteria number 1, its personality. Character comes first, skill after. 

yes you can do that in small clubs like freiburg, not in big clubs like Chelsea.

[King Kante 1,643]

13 minutes ago, Milan said:

With Potter being English, the media will cut us some slack again. Lampard could get us relegated and he would still be protected.

For sure. English manager means we will probably be elevated to the Utd category of commentary whereby we get protection on the 50/50's. Dippers will still get the best coverage, but they would still get that even if they hired Ian Huntley as their groundskeeper for their academy tbf. 

Edited September 7, 2022 by King Kante

[Clockwork 1,794]

Luis Enrique would be my top choice, wait after the World Cup.

[Gundalf 806]

1 minute ago, whats happening said:

i bet he will turn us down, saying he wants to stay at brighton for this season.

 

yes you can do that in small clubs like freiburg, not in big clubs like Chelsea.

U can still implement that personality is the biggest criteria. Why would anyone buy this kebab merchant from Ajax for example?