21. Ben Chilwell

[MoroccanBlue 5,320]

45 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

. This annoys me more than anything in football most especially in Ben's case since in his debut he did actually make good use of his right foot quite a few times.

I do think we would benefit having an inverted LWB option that cuts inside being involved in the build up from midfield. Particularly against low blocks where CHO or Pulisic or Werner can stay wide.  We see this at City with Zinchenko and more importantly Cancelo. 

Sergino Dest would be an option. Can play RWB as well. 

[OhForAGreavsie 5,898]

6 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

I do think we would benefit having an inverted LWB option that cuts inside being involved in the build up from midfield. Particularly against low blocks where CHO or Pulisic or Werner can stay wide.  We see this at City with Zinchenko and more importantly Cancelo. 

Sergino Dest would be an option. Can play RWB as well. 

Interesting. I'll look at some vids but would he leave Barca? Probably have to wait till I'm sober though. Been at the port. 

Merry Christmas to you all.

[Vesper 29,144]

On 24/12/2021 at 01:47, OhForAGreavsie said:

You've got me there. I know @Vesper likes Theo Hernandez but these days I'm not watching enough non Chelsea football to really have a valid opinion. I will observe that in highlight reels he sometimes looks more about the power than the finesse to me. I'm sure someone will probably put me straight on that.

This is the point of disagreement between us I think. Generally I have not been impressed and I believe a reading of forum comments about him would show that across his CFC career to date people here have raised questions about him. Indeed I think it is 'lucky' for Ben that this injury came at the back of a purple patch and so the short-term memories of him are positive.

big problem is Theo is not available in January

[Vesper 29,144]

On 24/12/2021 at 00:26, Mário César said:

signing a upgrade to chilwell is not so easy.

at least, we need to try to sign a player better than alonso and emerson at least

well, upgrade means you are only talking about a handful of players on the planet maybe 5 

Alphonso Davies    
Andrew Robertson  
Theo Hernández   

very soon, if not now: Nuno Mendes

and arguably Ferland Mendy  (limited offensively though)

Leonardo Spinazzola  would be in that mix, but he blew out his Achilles

that's it atm unless you start tossing in two LMFers who also play LWB

Saka and maybe Gosens

[Magic Lamps 11,677]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

well, upgrade means you are only talking about a handful of players on the planet maybe 5 

Alphonso Davies    
Andrew Robertson  
Theo Hernández   

very soon, if not now: Nuno Mendes

and arguably Ferland Mendy  (limited offensively though)

Leonardo Spinazzola  would be in that mix, but he blew out his Achilles

that's it atm unless you start tossing in two LMFers who also play LWB

Saka and maybe Gosens

Davies had a very dodgy last season has regressed massively from the level he had in 19/20

spinazzola and Robertson are significantly older than Chilly as well. 
gosens and Sala are definitely inferior to Ben

mendes and Mendy I have not seen enough but I doubt it. Real fans I know are rather critical of Mendy 

also all players on that list are a huge pull. If they became available we would not exactly be first in line under normal circumstances. Real, city and Psg will always overpower us in the t market. Possibly a consequence of how terribly we managed the salah kdb situations back then. But probably more down to wages budget 

 

[Vesper 29,144]

2 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

Davies had a very dodgy last season has regressed massively from the level he had in 19/20

spinazzola and Robertson are significantly older than Chilly as well. 
gosens and Sala are definitely inferior to Ben

mendes and Mendy I have not seen enough but I doubt it. Real fans I know are rather critical of Mendy 

also all players on that list are a huge pull. If they became available we would not exactly be first in line under normal circumstances. Real, city and Psg will always overpower us in the t market. Possibly a consequence of how terribly we managed the salah kdb situations back then. But probably more down to wages budget 

 

Oh, I never claimed they were viable targets, was ust listing any who even a remote case could be make for

Davies seems to regained a lot of his form atm btw

and yes, age comes into play for some

I do feel confident in saying the first 3 would be an upgrade

and likely Mendes too, especially given his age and upside

the others are very flip a coin

Theo is, as always, my choice

[bigbluewillie 1,867]

What about Rico Henry?

[Superblue 6,372]

Will need surgery and out for the season apparently.

[Strike 7,278]

 

 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

28 minutes ago, Strike said:

 

 

Feel like a waste of time, should have done the surgery several weeks ago.

[Pizy 18,504]

Knew it was coming. 
 

Alonso is average enough against mediocre opposition and is exposed regularly. Don’t think we can rely on him against better teams for the whole remainder of the season. We 100% need a body in January. 

Get Lucas Digne. Then we sell Alonso next summer and have Chilly and Digne as our 2 LWB’s for next season.

[Mário César 1,037]

fuck fuck fuck 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

 

[Mário César 1,037]

eish we're fucked 

[Special Juan 27,500]

Digne will come in now for sure, he's also better than Alonso

[NikkiCFC 8,066]

Digne is apparently available on loan which would be great. 

[Tomo 21,733]

24 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Digne is apparently available on loan which would be great. 

Everton who are historically a nightmare to deal with are happy to hand him to us on loan?

Red flag right there.

[Blues Forever 1,232]

3 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Everton who are historically a nightmare to deal with are happy to hand him to us on loan?

Red flag right there.

Yes, apparently according to few Everton fans Digne hasn't been the same since his last injury.

Edited December 28, 2021 by Blues Forever