Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 minute ago, El P. said: It was probably asked before so I am sorry - what happens if we and Leicester finish with same number of points? Is goal difference or head-to-head decisive? In PL its GD Muzchap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Just now, Magic Lamps said: In PL its GD https://www.premierleague.com/news/1262217?fbclid=IwAR3XN0znFIN571GAVV9Et4hBKYeRPj-7yKOFoW2NWYd9OQvar-5GLnuwyxs What about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,928 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I seriously don't know what I'd do if we somehow drop points tomorrow or lose. Rock bottom in the table, already relegated, literally zero to play for other than to be a trolling spoiler, everything to play for for us, wanting to make up for a humiliating defeat. The rest of our summer plans are contingent on this. If we squander this.... It would be the worst result since I've watched Chelsea. bigbluewillie and El P. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,620 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 28 minutes ago, killer1257 said: Really lol? Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk i am pretty sure about it Muzchap and killer1257 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, El P. said: https://www.premierleague.com/news/1262217?fbclid=IwAR3XN0znFIN571GAVV9Et4hBKYeRPj-7yKOFoW2NWYd9OQvar-5GLnuwyxs What about this? If it's just the points that two teams or more have the same total, then the GD will be used to separate them. The H2H only comes into play if the teams have the same number of points, same GD and number of goals scored. Muzchap and El P. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, El P. said: https://www.premierleague.com/news/1262217?fbclid=IwAR3XN0znFIN571GAVV9Et4hBKYeRPj-7yKOFoW2NWYd9OQvar-5GLnuwyxs What about this? Read closely. it says GD In 2019/20 the team who have collected the most points in the head-to-head duels between the sides lying level on points, goal difference and number of goals scored, will take the highest finishing position, while the team with the fewest will take the lowest place Only in case of same points and goals, it will be settled by h2h El P. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Read closely. it says GD In 2019/20 the team who have collected the most points in the head-to-head duels between the sides lying level on points, goal difference and number of goals scored, will take the highest finishing position, while the team with the fewest will take the lowest place Only in case of same points and goals, it will be settled by h2h Thank you very much! Magic Lamps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 I can't believe it's come to a point where watching/thinking about Chelsea is giving me anxieties over whether we will beat a side that is already relegated. I hate 2020. This season should have been cancelled. Muzchap, killer1257 and bigbluewillie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,076 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 9 hours ago, Jason said: I can't believe it's come to a point where watching/thinking about Chelsea is giving me anxieties over whether we will beat a side that is already relegated. I hate 2020. This season should have been cancelled. Whenever Frank was interviewed during the lockdown he always put forward arguments which lent towards cancelling the remaining games. He was always careful to couch his comments in terms of player and staff safety, but I could never escape the impression that he knew ending the season then suited Chelsea just fine. Oh well, Southampton have thrown us a quarter of a lifeline, and opened up the possibility of a nightmare scenario. It's entirely possible that we could take one win and one loss from our next two games, while Man u and Leicester take two wins. That would leave each of our rivals 2 points in front of us going into the last game of the season. With their big goal difference advantage that means a draw would be good enough for both of them in that last fixture. Can we get something at Anfield? We might need to, but it's only going to matter either way if we get the job done tomorrow. Muzchap and bigbluewillie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapkun 668 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 So much negativity in here especially with our opponent's results. You all need to relax a bit. This team was never really consistent throughout the season and it was rare for us to win 2 games in a row in the PL. The Sheffield result shouldn't have come as a shock for anyone here. As for next game, Norwich does not have a physical team compared to the standards of the league and play an open type of football which suit us. Kovacic should be back and the players will look to make up for last game's loss. Have a bit more faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rapkun said: So much negativity in here especially with our opponent's results. You all need to relax a bit. This team was never really consistent throughout the season and it was rare for us to win 2 games in a row in the PL. The Sheffield result shouldn't have come as a shock for anyone here. Sheffield United have been good this season. Losing to them can happen but the main issue is the manner we lost to them, especially when Champions League qualification is at stake. This team don't seem capable of fighting for at least a draw on bad days. It's either we win well or lose or just lose badly. Was just looking at our league draws this season and almost, if not all felt like 2 points dropped rather than 1 point gained and since the start of last season, we've come from behind to win only 4 league games - twice against Cardiff who got relegated and once against Villa who look like they might go down. It's so depressing. When you think things are gonna be alright, this team suddenly crash and burn and disappoint all over again. Have been scarred too many times by these bad moments in the last decade or so alone. El P., bigbluewillie and Laylabelle 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jason said: Sheffield United have been good this season. Losing to them can happen but the main issue is the manner we lost to them, especially when Champions League qualification is at stake. This team don't seem capable of fighting for at least a draw on bad days. It's either we win well or lose or just lose badly. Was just looking at our league draws this season and almost, if not all felt like 2 points dropped rather than 1 point gained and since the start of last season, we've come from behind to win only 4 league games - twice against Cardiff who got relegated and once against Villa who look like they might go down. It's so depressing. When you think things are gonna be alright, this team suddenly crash and burn and disappoint all over again. Have been scarred too many times by these bad moments in the last decade or so alone. It's because we're a wildly inconsistent team. Any team outside of title challengers will go through the crazy up's and downs we do. Remember that pre Roman team that could win 3-0 at OT but then lose 0-1 to Charlton at home? That's us right now again! Muzchap and bigbluewillie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 Just now, Tomo said: It's because we're a wildly inconsistent team. Any team outside of title challengers will go through the crazy up's and downs we do. Remember that pre Roman team that could win 3-0 at OT but then lose 0-1 to Charlton at home? That's us right now again! It's just too much, Tomo. All those bad moments from 2010/11, 2011/12 (under AVB), 2015/16, 2017/18, 2018/19, 2019/20 are A LOT to take. Muzchap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jason said: It's just too much, Tomo. All those bad moments from 2010/11, 2011/12 (under AVB), 2015/16, 2017/18, 2018/19, 2019/20 are A LOT to take. Why do you think i keep preaching that we have to stick with this process that we started post Conte? That's our only (sustainable) way back to being regular title challengers. Muzchap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapkun 668 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jason said: Sheffield United have been good this season. Losing to them can happen but the main issue is the manner we lost to them, especially when Champions League qualification is at stake. This team don't seem capable of fighting for at least a draw on bad days. It's either we win well or lose or just lose badly. Was just looking at our league draws this season and almost, if not all felt like 2 points dropped rather than 1 point gained and since the start of last season, we've come from behind to win only 4 league games - twice against Cardiff who got relegated and once against Villa who look like they might go down. It's so depressing. When you think things are gonna be alright, this team suddenly crash and burn and disappoint all over again. Have been scarred too many times by these bad moments in the last decade or so alone. From an outside perspective, I think most would say we are far from bottlers. But we've certainly not been great either in important matches these last couple of years or so. Strictly speaking about this season, I think we're suffering from the youth and inexperience of both our players and manager. You can feel the lack of leadership in the team when our backs are against the wall, but also Frank's system makes it so that there isn't a big margin for errors. We will come up on top of most games because our talent edges it, but sometimes when we're not up for it and the opposing team has the weapons to hurt us we will get trashed like we did at Sheffield. We need to be real here, we're far from title challengers. Our expectations definitely need to be lower until the team improves in quality and experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 10 hours ago, Jason said: Kante not fit for the game. Christensen came off injured at Sheffield but is back fit for the game. Is kova fit to play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,327 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 29 minutes ago, communicate said: Is kova fit to play? Yes, he was on the bench against SU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluewillie 1,930 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 6 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said: Whenever Frank was interviewed during the lockdown he always put forward arguments which lent towards cancelling the remaining games. He was always careful to couch his comments in terms of player and staff safety, but I could never escape the opinion that he knew ending the season then suited Chelsea just fine. Oh well, Southampton have thrown us a quarter of a lifeline, and opened up the possibility of a nightmare scenario. It's entirely possible that we could take one win and one loss from our next two games, while Man u and Leicester take two wins. That would leave each of our rivals 2 points in front of us going into the last game of the season. With their big goal difference advantage that means a draw would be good enough for both of them in that last fixture. Can we get something at Anfield? We might need to, but it's only going to matter either way if we get the job done tomorrow. But in a way i'm finding it masochistically exiting, the close of season from now Muzchap and Vesper 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 6 hours ago, Rapkun said: From an outside perspective, I think most would say we are far from bottlers. But we've certainly not been great either in important matches these last couple of years or so. Strictly speaking about this season, I think we're suffering from the youth and inexperience of both our players and manager. You can feel the lack of leadership in the team when our backs are against the wall, but also Frank's system makes it so that there isn't a big margin for errors. We will come up on top of most games because our talent edges it, but sometimes when we're not up for it and the opposing team has the weapons to hurt us we will get trashed like we did at Sheffield. We need to be real here, we're far from title challengers. Our expectations definitely need to be lower until the team improves in quality and experience. This isn't about challenging for the title. One would have to be crazy to expect us to challenge for the title at this point. I can live with the inconsistency from this season but it's things like how we keep making the same basic mistakes over and over and over again and for one reason or another, nothing seems to have been done about them. How can one not go crazy because of that? How can we expect progress when we keep on making the same mistakes that hinder that progress? Too many 'one step forward, two steps backward' moments this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,959 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 That Man United fan... Quote Referee: Jon Moss VAR: Martin Atkinson This will be Jon Moss’ first Chelsea game since our 0-2 home defeat to Southampton on Boxing Day. His only other Blues game this season was another home defeat, this time to West Ham in November. Johnnyeye and Muzchap 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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