closed Man Utd 4-0 Chelsea

[Tomo 21,751]

This is harder to take than City. Why? Because at City we were bolax and got what we deserved, here we were genuinely the better side (by a distance) for 65 minutes then were sucker punched due to sheer naivety.

[Starman60 1,343]

1 minute ago, Stats said:

Kovacic was better than Jorginho and imo was our best player. Mount looked good too. Don't see how anyone can criticize Kovacic or was I watching a different game. 

Totally agree,the guy was our best player by far today

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2 minutes ago, Stats said:

Kovacic was better than Jorginho and imo was our best player. Mount looked good too. Don't see how anyone can criticize Kovacic or was I watching a different game. 

I really do disagree with Kovacic. Mount had some good stuff going for him at times though, and I like him and hope to see more of him. But I don't understand taking Barkley out before him. At all.

[The Skipper 20,609]

One of the most satisfying losses in a while funnily enough. Can’t wait for Kanté, Pulisic, CHO, James, RLC & Rüdiger to come back they’re all very needed. Won’t be a while until we see our strongest XI:

Kepa

James Rüdiger Christensen Emerson

Kanté Jorginho

Pulisic RLC CHO

Tammy?

[communicate 2,703]

3 minutes ago, Stats said:

Kovacic was better than Jorginho and imo was our best player. Mount looked good too. Don't see how anyone can criticize Kovacic or was I watching a different game. 

In midfield it is not even close. Kante and kova is our starting double pivot 

[LAM09 7,056]

I don't think player lamp player selection was the problem. Maybe a more conservative press will be better 

Abraham shouldn't have started. That single change could have seen us ahead at the break and we might be talking about a deserved victory rather than a shambolic display in the final 30 mins. 

 

Fine margins

 

 

[Jase 43,479]

 

[Vesper 30,187]

59 minutes ago, MichaelDance said:

Fair enough whatever you say must be true... All I say is after this season with Kepa I'll quote you with your opinion that Kepa is the bees knees and the best we have cause you are blinded by him.

if you have been here a while you know I had pushed other options (I was never pushing Kepa due to the fact he had turned down Real before, twice)

we bid £90m for Oblak, and he personally said no, he was my number one want (and I think it is a tossup between him, Ederson, and Alisson for top GK in the world)

we did overpay for Kepa, by £20m or so, BUT that was all on the board, as they should have sold Courtois in the summer of 2017, as it was obvious he was not going to renew. We lost over £40m there, as Real would have paid at least £70m for him then

the board lost a net £60m (20m overpay for Kepa and 40m lost on the forced Courtois sale) and or so (even more if the keeper we would have purchased in 2017 would have cost less than the £50m valuation I am using for Kepa)

we could have purchased Alisson in 2017 for peanuts compared to what the Bindippers paid for him in 2018

I also was suggesting (in 2018)

 

and

Alex Meret (removing Kepa, he was, after Oblak and Strakosha, my number 3 option), Pau López, Jasper Cillessen,, Alphonse Areola, Mattia Perin, and André Onana as options too, with Alban Lafont as a backup/future option (he was only 19 with years of Serie A starting already)

 

my backup options slash Kepa competition now are (still would love to get Strakosha, but I doubt we spend what he would cost now)

 

 

 

 

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, Tomo said:

This is harder to take than City. Why? Because at City we were bolax and got what we deserved, here we were genuinely the better side (by a distance) for 65 minutes then were sucker punched due to sheer na

We basically got OUT-Arsenal-ED. 

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Just now, Jason said:

We basically got OUT-Arsenal-ED. 

words you never want to hear

[Vesper 30,187]

21 minutes ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

One positive is that Kovacic looked really good in midfield. He plays over Jorginho for me when Kante is fit again.

Emerson had a good game as well

[LAM09 7,056]

One of the most satisfying losses in a while funnily enough. Can’t wait for Kanté, Pulisic, CHO, James, RLC & Rüdiger to come back they’re all very needed. Won’t be a while until we see our strongest XI: Kepa
James Rüdiger Christensen Emerson
Kanté Jorginho
CHO RLC Pulisic
Tammy?

 
Honest question, how can Abraham actually be your choice out of the three?
 
Michy should be the clear favourite with the par so low.

[The Skipper 20,609]

2 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Honest question, how can Abraham actually be your choice out of the three?

 

Michy should be the clear favourite with the par so low.

In my head Batshuayi, Tammy & Giroud are all on the same level. Doesn’t really matter who starts tbh. 

Thought Tammy had a decent first half imo lead the line quite well and was unlucky not to score. 

[LAM09 7,056]

In my head Batshuayi, Tammy & Giroud are all on the same level. Doesn’t really matter who starts tbh. 
Thought Tammy had a decent first half imo lead the line quite well and was unlucky not to score. 

He was sleeping when the golden chance arrived. This ain't Bristol City.

[communicate 2,703]

4 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Abraham shouldn't have started. That single change could have seen us ahead at the break and we might be talking about a deserved victory rather than a shambolic display in the final 30 mins.

Fine margins

Basically we have 3 option in striker 

- Giroud who is pure target man and has no future with us beyond this season 

- Michy, best finisher and movement but offer nothing else

- Abraham, our young striker who imo offer a bit of everything but still need a lot of work 

Honestly, I have no idea who to choose. But I probably will also go for tammy

[the wes 7,212]

1 minute ago, Vesper said:

Emerson had a good game as well

I'm just gald Alonso didn't play the scoreline would have been bigger 

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

The criticism for Tammy is truly unjustified. He puts that chance away people's opinion would completely shift. Did well to lead the line and his pressing was superb. 

[cosmicway 1,333]

Zouma I think was a sort of hopeful back in the season when he was injured.
But I don't think he's any good at this level.
Certainly not a new Terry.

 

 

[Pizy 18,918]

Yeah, I can take getting blown up by City or Liverpool as they're loaded with world class players and have been together for years. To lose 4-0 to what was surely the weakest United side ever fielded on a PL opening weekend is what stings.

But it's rare to take so many positives away from a thumping loss. We'll almost certainly be on the end of a few of those against the other big boys. But I hope that looking at today in terms of style of play and chance creation, we can do well against most of the league.

[killer1257 3,282]

Abraham and Emerson should have scored today. Zouma should not have made that weird tackle and we clearly need Rüdiger back. I am not even a fan of Rüdiger, but at least he can pass the ball safely. Kante is back to his best position, which is good and he was not bad when he came on.

What I think really is shocking is that we have two big strikers with Tammy and Giroud and we have no players that can cross. We really need CHO and James. RLC is also very needed. Nobody was good enough for Pogba today and I think Kante and RLC would have made Pogba´s game more difficult