Super Frank Thread

[Laylabelle 9,534]

Still waiting on his first home win... Bloody hope it comes Wed's or there's no hope! Then Brighton after that be nice. 

Need to practise defending. A lot! 

[robsblubot 3,595]

56 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Drop Zonal marking!

It was more than problematic last season and he somehow hasn't changed shit thus far. Needs to stop persisting with a flawed idea.

Kinda crosses your mind doesn’t it. I mean after pools #9 gets two free headers scoring from one.  

[BlueLion. 21,491]

He looks out of his depth tactically. I think he was very naive in the way he set up so deep, if that was indeed the intention.

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, BlueLion. said:

He looks out of his depth tactically. I think he was very naive in the way he set up so deep, if that was indeed the intention.

If only we defend with the same intensity and commitment we put into our attack...

[BlueLion. 21,491]

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

If only we defend with the same intensity and commitment we put into our attack...

I do think it is a personnel rather than tactical/formational problem - square pegs, round holes and all that... but we saw last season the effect of failing to compromise as a manager, and it is repeating itself this year. He is probably even more stubborn than Sarri. 

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, BlueLion. said:

I do think it is a personnel rather than tactical/formational problem - square pegs, round holes and all that... but we saw last season the effect of failing to compromise as a manager, and it is repeating itself this year. He is probably even more stubborn than Sarri. 

Everything about us just feels very loose at the moment. 

[NikkiCFC 8,286]

Majority of goals this season we conceded because of Azpi and Zouma. Today Azpi and Chris made fouls that lead to goals. Alonso and Chris again with poor marking for second goal. Logically speaking when we play our best four at the back James, Rudiger, Tomori, Emerson we won't concede much goals. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

20 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Majority of goals this season we conceded because of Azpi and Zouma. Today Azpi and Chris made fouls that lead to goals. Alonso and Chris again with poor marking for second goal. Logically speaking when we play our best four at the back James, Rudiger, Tomori, Emerson we won't concede much goals. 

Maybe from open play, but at set pieces I'm not sure. It isn't just those you mentioned that aren't tightly marking, it's everyone. 

 

[robsblubot 3,595]

23 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Majority of goals this season we conceded because of Azpi and Zouma. Today Azpi and Chris made fouls that lead to goals. Alonso and Chris again with poor marking for second goal. Logically speaking when we play our best four at the back James, Rudiger, Tomori, Emerson we won't concede much goals. 

Have to disagree here.

set pieces is the entire team responsibility. 

Even if azpi started slow, happens with older players, he’s already back to his norm imo.

it seems that regardless who plays, we concede goals all the same.

aside from the obvious issue with set pieces, I think it has more to do with the directness that our young players play which makes defending difficult, esp when under pressure. Gotta keep the ball when the opposition presses high.

tammy was very very poor in the first 30min or so. Missed easy passes, touches, and made no runs. The opposition then has the ball more and hence attacks more.

[DDA 9,924]

40 minutes ago, BlueLion. said:

He looks out of his depth tactically. I think he was very naive in the way he set up so deep, if that was indeed the intention.

I honestly don't know how you can say that from watching today's game. We were the better team. It is individuals who are letting us down. Frank has gone toe to toe with arguably one of the greatest managers of the modern era and has nowhere near disgraced himself. Take Ole Gunner for instance, now he is waaaaayyy out of his depth and it shows quite clearly... whereas Frank has actually surprised me with the way we are performing. His subs are abit questionable but that will come with time.

[milka 3,390]

 

[Laylabelle 9,534]

7 minutes ago, milka said:

 

Yeahhh didn't expect last season as well. Not fussed us winning the title just want one clean sheet and a home win.. Then carry that on and vooom

[killer1257 3,282]

52 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Majority of goals this season we conceded because of Azpi and Zouma. Today Azpi and Chris made fouls that lead to goals. Alonso and Chris again with poor marking for second goal. Logically speaking when we play our best four at the back James, Rudiger, Tomori, Emerson we won't concede much goals. 

I agree. There are a lot of individual mistakes that lead to our conceded goals. Tomori for instance had a brilliant game from the defensive point of view.You can´t expect that Chelsea will not concede goals against Pool with players like Azpi and Alonso. Pool is the CL winner

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

23 minutes ago, DDA said:

I honestly don't know how you can say that from watching today's game. We were the better team. It is individuals who are letting us down. Frank has gone toe to toe with arguably one of the greatest managers of the modern era and has nowhere near disgraced himself. Take Ole Gunner for instance, now he is waaaaayyy out of his depth and it shows quite clearly... whereas Frank has actually surprised me with the way we are performing. His subs are abit questionable but that will come with time.

Its no coincidence we constantly concede chances and goals from corners. If it happened once or twice in the space of however many games then you could definitely say its individual mistakes but its almost every week we struggle at corners or freekicks, which screams out to me that it is down to coaching more than anything else. 

Also you mention facing best managers, it really means nothing because at a club like Chelsea you expect that if youve been a manager for 1 year or 10 years, so again I think that to use it as an excuse is needless. Norwich outplayed Man City for instance but doesnt mean they are better or there manager is or whatever. Results and performances are 2 different things, results and performances dont always coincide, you can perform well and lose or perform badly and win. To not have won at home yet this season so far for me is really bad. If this was Sarri then their would be huge outrage, I get Frank deserves time as hes a young manager but he wont actually get it unless we stop conceding these stupid goals, tighten up defensively as a whole unit and start winning games at home regardless of if its Liverpool or Sheffield Wednesday.

This performing better than results suggest stuff is an excuse in my eyes because as a team, taking everything into account not just attacking, are we really performing that much better than last season, taking into account we cant keep clean sheets and are always very very open on transitions? Unfortunately, theres more to the game than just scoring goals or having 3 academy players in the line up. As a whole our attacking play is a bit less predictable perhaps but the defensive side of the match including our organisation at corners/freekicks is really really really worse than it was last season. Was never gonna be an easy job but we need to be realistic if the performances were good or bad, we would want to have more points and have won at home by now.

[Vesper 30,085]

If we do not win (not draw) every game but Ajax away of these, something is seriously wrong

these are some seriously SHIT teams other than Ajax (Lille is a shadow of what they were last year)