Tammy Abraham

[Jase 43,479]

Lampard flogging Abraham to death earlier this season has really come bite us in the arse. He said Abraham is not doing anything active for a couple of days and doesn't know when he will be back. 

[Strike 7,474]

45 minutes ago, Jason said:

Lampard flogging Abraham to death earlier this season has really come bite us in the arse. He said Abraham is not doing anything active for a couple of days and doesn't know when he will be back. 

Yes. I think you were on here making the point. Why wasn't Giroud used until he absolutely had to be used?

[communicate 2,703]

8 minutes ago, Strike said:

Yes. I think you were on here making the point. Why wasn't Giroud used until he absolutely had to be used?

This is an absolute mystery for me. It was obvious that tammy played too many consecutive games.

[Henrique 9,133]

4 hours ago, Jason said:

Lampard flogging Abraham to death earlier this season has really come bite us in the arse. He said Abraham is not doing anything active for a couple of days and doesn't know when he will be back. 

What do you mean by that? Abraham is 22 years old. He has 35 games at this back this season. 30 years old Immobile has 32 for Lazio. Mane has 34 for Liverpool. Lampard deserves a lot of criticism, but flogging players to death is not one of them. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

Oh gee, I wonder what seasoned players have over a player playing his first full season in the PL...

[Jase 43,479]

Lampard on Abraham's injury...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/feb/28/chelsea-prescribe-rest-for-tammy-abrahams-troublesome-ankle

“Tammy is not active for the next couple of days,” Lampard said. “How long is he going to be out? I don’t know. The inflammation is causing pain, so we are looking at ways to get rid of it. Could surgery be an option? As far as I know, no. It’s certainly not been mentioned.

“It’s a month later [from the Arsenal game] and we’re still talking about it so it’s been a frustrating one. We have seen him come back and then go away again. Sometimes things that are [to do with] pain threshold are like that. If he is not comfortable, he has to come out for a few days at least and see where it is going.”

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

3 hours ago, Henrique said:

What do you mean by that? Abraham is 22 years old. He has 35 games at this back this season. 30 years old Immobile has 32 for Lazio. Mane has 34 for Liverpool. Lampard deserves a lot of criticism, but flogging players to death is not one of them. 

Maybe hasnt flogged Abraham or maybe he has but regardless, as weve seen with Kante, Emerson and Rudiger earlied this season hes probably put him back in far too soon. And again, it has come back to bite us. 

16 minutes ago, Jason said:

Lampard on Abraham's injury...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/feb/28/chelsea-prescribe-rest-for-tammy-abrahams-troublesome-ankle

 

 

"It’s a month later [from the Arsenal game] and we’re still talking about it so it’s been a frustrating one. We have seen him come back and then go away again. Sometimes things that are [to do with] pain threshold are like that. If he is not comfortable, he has to come out for a few days at least and see where it is going.”

Well thats clever. Why play him? If he constantly needed pain injections or whatever and was playing through pain for the last month? These things never end up well and always aggravate or end up in a longer spell out.

We are already short in numbers in other positions and options upfront so for him to now be coming out with this when he has played Tammy in over 130 minutes since that Arsenal game, where he picked up this problem, its just stupidity. Careless handling of a younger player, just let the guy heal up and play him when he is 100%.... even if he isnt completely happy about it. Why risk it in a position where he knows we need quality in too? Just seems daft. Even more so when you see him select Batshuayi and how pathetically he does but I am glad FL has seemed to be forced to go with Giroud more recently, one way or another (although I wish it wasnt due to Tammy having an injury). 

As mentioned countless times, Kante, Emerson and Rudiger were rushed back this season and look how that panned out. He hasnt learned that sometimes you need to let guys heal properly when theyve suffered certain types of injuries, obviously, or he would be more cautious. Lets just hope we dont get any more because with Callum, Kante and Pulisic still out we really cant afford any more. Big part of the season coming up now for us and having all our better playsrs fit is only going to benefit us.

[Jase 43,479]

 

[Jase 43,479]

Not sure how true this is but...

 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,057]

6 hours ago, Jason said:

Not sure how true this is but...

 

That's fair enough, Tammy is entitled to negotiate the best deal he can get. I hope however that the club won't allow itself to overspend on the wages of our youngsters just because they are our youngsters. Pay them what they're worth for sure, but we still have to use the budget wisely.

[Special Juan 28,096]

Ah well, leave it at then. we need a top class CF next season anyway.

[Atomiswave 6,117]

He rejected it? What for? Im sure its a decent contract.....hes crazy if he thinks we will just hand him a super deal already.

[Jase 43,479]

9 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

He rejected it? What for? Im sure its a decent contract.....hes crazy if he thinks we will just hand him a super deal already.

Considering the board caved in on CHO's demands when he hasn't done anything of note in his career so far, it's little wonder that Abraham wants parity when he actually has already done things in his career. 

[Johnnyeye 7,501]

1 hour ago, Atomiswave said:

He rejected it? What for? Im sure its a decent contract.....hes crazy if he thinks we will just hand him a super deal already.

this is one of reasons i dont buy that talk about dreaming of playing for boyhood club, or ending their careers at the club, etc. At the end of the day its all about money, there are no loyalties to the clubs nowadays, hell i remember when Terry asked for a pay rise, the moment City came knocking on the door in 2009, altough its a different scenario because Terry was already a WC player and reaching his prime, Abraham has a long way to go still.

[Johnnyeye 7,501]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

Considering the board caved in on CHO's demands when he hasn't done anything of note in his career so far, it's little wonder that Abraham wants parity when he actually has already done things in his career. 

the way we dealed with CHO  set a bad precedent, now other youngsters will follow suit.