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1 minute ago, Jason said:

True but the repercussions of missing out on Champions League are bigger this time.

Are they? The TV deals has bridged that gap somewhat. Not saying there won't be any consequences but we'd still be raking it in.

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1 minute ago, Tomo said:

Are they? The TV deals has bridged that gap somewhat. Not saying there won't be any consequences but we'd still be raking it in.

Maybe not money wise but certainly when buying/selling players.

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25 minutes ago, Jason said:

Maybe not money wise but certainly when buying/selling players.

True we've struggled to sign this season and that's with us being in the champions league.. Who knows who be signed without it. Especially with our board. Back to caroll again 

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47 minutes ago, Jason said:

Maybe not money wise but certainly when buying/selling players.

I would argue all the players that we've brought in the last 2 transfer windows would have joined if we were in the Champions League or not.

I think the more pressing worry would be retaining our better players if we miss out, what with Madrid sniffing around Courtois and Hazard and PSG reportedly want Kante.

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2 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I would argue all the players that we've brought in the last 2 transfer windows would have joined if we were in the Champions League or not.

I think the more pressing worry would be retaining our better players if we miss out, what with Madrid sniffing around Courtois and Hazard and PSG reportedly want Kante.

It's time for Roman and the board to put their foot down and say "NO" to players who may want to leave. We can easily do a Leicester or Liverpool and refuse their best player to leave. At the end of the day Hazard has two years on his contract and Courtois has another year left. We don't have to give in to a player's demands. Roman is loyal to certain players, yes, but considering the club put their faith in Courtois over Cech, the least we can expect is Courtois to show some loyalty in return. 

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Just now, It's too big said:

It's time for Roman and the board to put their foot down and say "NO" to players who may want to leave. We can easily do a Leicester or Liverpool and refuse their best player to leave. At the end of the day Hazard has two years on his contract and Courtois has another year left. We don't have to give in to a player's demands. Roman is loyal to certain players, yes, but considering the club put their faith in Courtois over Cech, the least we can expect is Courtois to show some loyalty in return. 

That's all fine and well, but the club is not going to let Courtois leave for free in a year's time, when they can still likely command £50 - 60m for him this summer and/or a player in return to soften the blow.

Hazard is not quite as pressing with 2 year's left but again, you are talking a player that is probably in the current market in or around the £150m bracket but beyond this summer that value will drop significantly.

If the players both had 3 - 4 year contracts I would agree, but as much as I would prefer them both to stay, I feel we would have to seriously consider selling them in the summer if they don't agree new contracts.

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10 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

That's all fine and well, but the club is not going to let Courtois leave for free in a year's time, when they can still likely command £50 - 60m for him this summer and/or a player in return to soften the blow.

Hazard is not quite as pressing with 2 year's left but again, you are talking a player that is probably in the current market in or around the £150m bracket but beyond this summer that value will drop significantly.

If the players both had 3 - 4 year contracts I would agree, but as much as I would prefer them both to stay, I feel we would have to seriously consider selling them in the summer if they don't agree new contracts.

Hazard is worth more to us than £150m imo. In 2 years time he will be 29; by that time we will have had the best of him. Courtois, I dunno what could be done there. Whatever happens, I don't see RM shelling out the money for both of them. I think they will more likely bring in Lewandowski instead of Hazard and maybe buy Courtois or DDG. Who we buy depends, maybe Donnarumma or Oblak, god knows. 

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4 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I would argue all the players that we've brought in the last 2 transfer windows would have joined if we were in the Champions League or not.

I think the more pressing worry would be retaining our better players if we miss out, what with Madrid sniffing around Courtois and Hazard and PSG reportedly want Kante.

That's true but that's probably because we have bought mostly duds, except maybe 1-2 players. Gonna find it tougher to try signing top quality players if we're not in the Champions League and even more so when we have become so stingy with money.

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4 hours ago, Jason said:

That's true but that's probably because we have bought mostly duds, except maybe 1-2 players. Gonna find it tougher to try signing top quality players if we're not in the Champions League and even more so when we have become so stingy with money.

I agree but if the standard and profile of player we've brought in the last 2 windows is an indicator (more attainable, lower wages, next level down in quality), then it won't have an effect on our transfer strategy.

I'm with you, I'd rather see us bring in 2 or 3 top drawer players in the summer to add to what we already have here and immediately improve the starting XI. In this scenario it would prove hard (although not impossible as we got Kante when not in the champions league).

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5 hours ago, Jason said:

That's true but that's probably because we have bought mostly duds, except maybe 1-2 players. Gonna find it tougher to try signing top quality players if we're not in the Champions League and even more so when we have become so stingy with money.

What I would like to know is what actually are the board hoping for with this strategy, of bring dross in on the cheap.

I mean do they truly believe we can compete in the EPL against the other 6 top teams with the shit we have, or the UCL against well! you know who, the LC we couldn't even beat the Arse over 2 legs in actual fact we cant even beat Arse.

Oh and the FA cup we're still in that lol.

So what do they do? go and tell The Don this is the shit you're getting go and work wonders.

So if someone can tell me the board's thinking i'd appreciate it, but for me the main reason we are shit is down to Abramovich and his team of yes men and woman, and the meaness to bring top quality players.

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5 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I agree but if the standard and profile of player we've brought in the last 2 windows is an indicator (more attainable, lower wages, next level down in quality), then it won't have an effect on our transfer strategy.

I'm with you, I'd rather see us bring in 2 or 3 top drawer players in the summer to add to what we already have here and immediately improve the starting XI. In this scenario it would prove hard (although not impossible as we got Kante when not in the champions league).

It's not often you can find someone like Kante playing for a lesser side and available on the cheap. The club these days would rather splash out 40-50m on piss poor players than on good ones.

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24 minutes ago, Jason said:

It's not often you can find someone like Kante.

Fixed that for you.

There are very few Kante's in this world. I honestly believe there has been a decline in players' quality in general these days. That's why almost every player could cost over 50m. Dark times if you ask me.

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That's true but that's probably because we have bought mostly duds, except maybe 1-2 players. Gonna find it tougher to try signing top quality players if we're not in the Champions League and even more so when we have become so stingy with money.
It didn't make a difference in the summer. Things won't change in terms of signings until a manager is given more power or the board is reformed.
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12 minutes ago, whats happening said:

for me its unbeliveable that only one year ago we were clear pl winners and now we are on the verge to finish outside of top4 and losing two of our best players. 

Because the club didn't' took it serious. And rested on their laurels. 

As always. 

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17 hours ago, Jason said:
That's true but that's probably because we have bought mostly duds, except maybe 1-2 players. Gonna find it tougher to try signing top quality players if we're not in the Champions League and even more so when we have become so stingy with money.

It didn't make a difference in the summer. Things won't change in terms of signings until a manager is given more power or the board is reformed.

Lately, I've been thinking "if only things in England are like in Germany or Italy, whereby the director of football or someone from the board always is always available to speak to the media"!

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Lately, I've been thinking "if only things in England are like in Germany or Italy, whereby the director of football or someone from the board always is always available to speak to the media"!
It would certainly be interesting to see Marina talk about our acquisitions.
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Regardless of the season I would still give him next season. 

It will speak volume of the difference of the club. 

That they do want to give time to a manager and what not. 

I would definitely like to see it but I don't know if that happens. 

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Regardless of the season I would still give him next season. 
It will speak volume of the difference of the club. 
That they do want to give time to a manager and what not. 
I would definitely like to see it but I don't know if that happens. 
His attitude is going to get him the sack ahead of results at this rate
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