The Mourinho Thread

[stroey 2,525]

http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/29304655

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/chelsea/9482536/a-good-weekend-for-mourinho

Mancity post match interviews

[didierforever 7,349]

People are disapointed by the performance and are criticizing Jose for it. Similar to praising him when we win. No one has asked for him to be sacked or anything drastic. What the hell else do you want? you want ppl to praise him after a disappointing performance?

people praise jose for the tactics used. like the ones against city last year. like the one against pool last year. or arsenal where we were playing and running like rabid dogs and simply owned their DMs.

also go and read mr.blueguy's posts. he is crtitisizing the tactics. not the performance. so know stuff before u speak.

[ballackstothat 43]

so u r telling me that city were a man down, yet were able to man mark hazard and cesc and create as much problem as they did to us in the last 15 minutes??? well their os your answer. they were THAT dominant then.

they didnt man mark hazard they doubled him up, we did well! last couple of weeks people have been moaning that we were conceding goals, now it's that were not attacking enough. doh you just can't win.

[didierforever 7,349]

they didnt man mark hazard they doubled him up, we did well! last couple of weeks people have been moaning that we were conceding goals, now it's that were not attacking enough. doh you just can't win.

they doubled up on hazard with a man down?

the post was written in the context of last 10-15mins of the match.

[ballackstothat 43]

they doubled up on hazard with a man down?

the post was written in the context of last 10-15mins of the match.

playing against 10 men is as dangerous as playing against 11 if they feel aggrieved any manager will tell you that, at that point jose was trying to hold out for 3 points it didn't work

[kellzfresh 7,229]

last couple of weeks people have been moaning that we were conceding goals, now it's that were not attacking enough. doh you just can't win.

Also according to the complainants, mancity parked the bus against bayern away too because it was the same tactics only that hart prevented a 4-0 score.

[Daniel1980 1,425]

Playing even against 10 men away is never easy when their fans are urging them on (and our own fans urged on Frank ). Besides, with Drogba we basically played with 10 men too. Jose tried to play it safe. It didn't work and we got a point against the main title rival. It's not the end of the world, even though we could have won.

[didierforever 7,349]

playing against 10 men is as dangerous as playing against 11 if they feel aggrieved any manager will tell you that, at that point jose was trying to hold out for 3 points it didn't work

PRECISELY. city were playing THAT good. couple it with the fact that we had a lead to protect, we simply sat back. ridiculing jose for it is absolutely wrong (which is what some people are doing).

[ballackstothat 43]

No offense but that's a load of crap. First thing you need to do when you wanna dominate the other team : You press them. We just sat back and let them have the ball.

Also Hazard and Fabregas were caught on the ball because they were receiving the ball in their own half, with their face towards goal, with a city defender breathing down their neck. The simple fact was there was nowhere to go with the ball once they got it.

you don't press a team with ten men, you work the ball, that is keep possession, passing around, and force them out.

[lionsden 4,689]

they didnt man mark hazard they doubled him up, we did well! last couple of weeks people have been moaning that we were conceding goals, now it's that were not attacking enough. doh you just can't win.

There's this thing called balance you know. right proportion of attacking and defending. You don't just go all out to defend and vice versa. we attacked sporadically and it was generally lacking in quality and fluidity bar the counter which led to the schurrle goal.

It's not like we don't have the players to match City either. There was no need to defend so deep. close them higher up the pitch like we have been doing all season.

[didierforever 7,349]

With players like Costa, Hazard, Willian, Oscar, Fabregas and so on, I can understand and relate to the frustration of our style of play in this match. If football was solely about results then no one will have any qualms about the way we played today. But unfortunately, for one of the biggest clubs in the world, with fans all around the world, it isn't. No one is questioning Mourinho's record as a manager. His managerial record shows he is one of the best managers not only of this era but in history.

But he's not perfect. And part of his defects were shown today. We were clearly set up to play counter-attacking football (as is almost always the way with Jose away from home) and the problem with that is that when it doesn't work, we produce one of the most turgid brands of football among the big European clubs.

Mourinho's tactics were ineffectual today, at least part of it. He said it himself in the post match interview. The "final phase" of attack never happened. But it never happened vs Man United away, vs Atletico away, vs Man City FA cup loss away, vs Arsenal in the league away. He's going to have to brainstorm and come up with some new ideas in these big matches away from home. We have to start playing like a big team now, not just at home but away to other big teams. No excuses.

Can't wait for the next game so I can forget how we played in this one.

so you basically want us to do what arsene wenger and brendan rodgers do. play "their own game" without a care of who, where and under what circumstances we are playing?

[ballackstothat 43]

now where was i when see barca held by 10 men good and blue! o yes the camp nou?

and who was that traitor with the inch perfect thru ball?

[ballackstothat 43]

thru ball took out three players do that gerrard you dipper wanker

[Thendo 1,088]

José seemed genuinely upset about Lampard in his post match interviews.

[didierforever 7,349]

Best coach in the world....we have been brainwashed. He is brilliant for sure, but he does mistakes more often than he used to.

HIs inclusion of Drogba cost us 2 points vs Schalke and it very well might have cost us again.

totally agree. brainwashed!!!!

i mean 2 games against united (4 points), 2 games against arsenal (4 points), 3 games against city (7 points), 2 games against pool (6 points), 2 games against spurs (4 points). this is what jose has done against the other "big teams" in PL since coming back. not losing a single game against them.totally brainwashed.

starting DD against schalke was a mistake, but one mistake does not mean he is not the best in the world.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

you don't press a team with ten men, you work the ball, that is keep possession, passing around, and force them out.

Yes when we had the ball that's what we should have done. Pass the ball around, make good use of the extra man, basically make them chase the ball.

AND when City had the ball we should have pressed them so that they had to kick the ball long. We should have imposed ourselves on them and starved them of the ball. If they don't have the ball they can't score.

[ballackstothat 43]

i cannot believe some of the shit posted on here!

[Daniel1980 1,425]

so you basically want us to do what arsene wenger and brendan rodgers do. play "their own game" without a care of who, where and under what circumstances we are playing?

The thing is, there's a fine line between attacking recklessly and creating 2 chances in the entire game because of being too cautious and parking the bus. Our players are good enough and creative enough to attack and get the result, but we gave City the ball from the very beginning, and you can't say it was the players' fault. It was clearly Jose's instructions to be cautious and wait for an opportunity to counter-attack. But I think we were too cautious.

I'm not saying we should become Barcelona 2.0, but Jose should make the team practice tactical short-passing to keep the possession. Defending 90 minutes is extremely exhausting, especially for midfielders who cover the most distance in the game. Because of this, towards the end of the game our players looked knackered and started making mistakes and had trouble playing even against 10 men. Despite having the advantage, our players were both mentally and physically exhausted by all the defending while City's defenders were reasonably fresh, since they had been barely troubled the entire match. IMO, that's partly why we couldn't dominate them in the last fifteen minutes.

I don't want us to become like Arsenal, but I feel we would have achieved a better result if we attacked and intimidated them from the very beginning instead of sitting deep. We have the attacking talent. We have the players. Parking the bus away against every good team can't be an answer. 1-1 against City is good enough, but we could have easily lost this game.

[ballackstothat 43]

i see it like this: we go where we want and get results we want, like not getting beat at man city, utd and arsenal, these same teams come to us and try and do the same but we roll them over. utd,arsenal and city all tried last season and failed, arsenal miserably. man city nearly did it and man u did it for 20 mins before capitulating, and that is a mark of a good team full stop. what cost us the title last year was complacency against the small teams. man city did not win the title last year, chelsea won it for them. that's why they played at such a high tempo. they know as a team they won by luck and not skill. do you think they will come to the bridge and get a result? not likely.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

i see it like this: we go where we want and get results we want, like not getting beat at man city, utd and arsenal, these same teams come to us and try and do the same but we roll them over. utd,arsenal and city all tried last season and failed, arsenal miserably. man city nearly did it and man u did it for 20 mins before capitulating, and that is a mark of a good team full stop. what cost us the title last year was complacency against the small teams. man city did not win the title last year, chelsea won it for them. that's why they played at such a high tempo. they know as a team they won by luck and not skill. do you think they will come to the bridge and get a result? not likely.

Another thing that cost us the title last season was negative tactics in the league at Old Trafford and The Emirates. Two beatable teams.