bababoom 4,478 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 You love it when we drop points don't you? it suits your anti-mourinho agenda. You was slating Mourinho as early as September, constantly banging on about Benitez, which is both slightly weird and worrying at the same time. You suggested that Mourinho is a one trick pony... do you honestly believe that? if so than i'm lost for words.I have also never once seen you in this thread praising Mourinho after a victory, you always turn up when we drop points so you can spout your negative BS. Over the last few months you have repeatedly been saying that Mourinho made Ronaldo bulk up, do you have any reliable sources to back that up? i'm willing to bet it's a load of BS. You claim Mourinho wants his attacking players to be big and physically strong, i guess that why the likes of Duff, J.cole, Robben, SWP and Kalou had Mr.Olympia physiques, right? didierforever, darrus, Blue Traveler and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Amen, bring back Rafa, we played some nice 1-2 with him at the helm.Klopp would be the most ideal. Great with young players, young himself, a winner, winning without heavy investment, fantastic football, no controversies and most importantly, good ambassador for the club. Unfortunately, he isn't ready to live Dortmund just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Zero trophies in 623 days. 2 trophies out of a possible 14. Hated in Italy, Spain and now England. Have you ever asked yourself WHY he has so many haters? Don't you think this is incredibly strange for a manager. How he criticizes players in public? How he discusses players' weaknesses in public (Mata, De Bruyne, Torres, Hazard). But to answer your question, Ancelotti's CV is quite impressive, so do van Gaal and Hiddink and Capello and Trap. And some others combine success with good football. Guardiola, Same with Klopp, van Gaal, Ancelotti and Hiddink. . Even Simeone's and Conte's teams at least play decent football. How long are we going to continue to live in the past? His teams clearly have a problem breaking down defensive sides.Look at the personnel we have and look at Mourinho's managerial style. It's obviously oil and water. This team was not built for Mourinho to manage. I'm not the first person to say it (one of the few Chelsea fans that will), because many pundits and football analysts said the same thing.Mourinho will take the flair out of the team and turn us to a counter-attacking team that relies on a strong defense and quick counter-attacking transitions for goals (like Madrid, difference is we don't have Ronaldo). We will struggle against teams that are happy to sit back and defend. It's only a matter of time before Roman gets frustrated. Have you ever thought about you ought to support Nigerian Street Pickers instead? Blue Traveler, didierforever and darrus 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 You love it when we drop points don't you? it suits your anti-mourinho agenda. You was slating Mourinho as early as September, constantly banging on about Benitez, which is both slightly weird and worrying at the same time. You suggested that Mourinho is a one trick pony... do you honestly believe that? if so than i'm lost for words.I have also never once seen you in this thread praising Mourinho after a victory, you always turn up when we drop points so you can spout your negative BS. Over the last few months you have repeatedly been saying that Mourinho made Ronaldo bulk up, do you have any reliable sources to back that up? i'm willing to bet it's a load of BS. You claim Mourinho wants his attacking players to be big and physically strong, i guess that why the likes of Duff, J.cole, Robben, SWP and Kalou had Mr.Olympia physiques, right? add henrique, lionsden, excalibur to that list too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,140 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 I'm certain if he was sacked tomorrow that 80% of this forum would be buzzing and start claiming for Rafa back. Muzchap, Blue Traveler and Peppen 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Have you ever thought about you ought to support Nigerian Street Pickers instead? Considering I was born in North London and have been a Chelsea fan all my life, saw my first game before Roman even knew what Chelsea was your comment is indeed hilarious. But even besides that, I don't think you should be telling anybody who or what they can or cannot support. It sets a bad precedent. And I'm not even sure if your comment was cloaked with a bit of good ol' RACISM as well. I hope the mods are watching. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namika 922 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Zero trophies in 623 days. 2 trophies out of a possible 14. Hated in Italy, Spain and now England. Have you ever asked yourself WHY he has so many haters? Don't you think this is incredibly strange for a manager. How he criticizes players in public? How he discusses players' weaknesses in public (Mata, De Bruyne, Torres, Hazard). But to answer your question, Ancelotti's CV is quite impressive, so do van Gaal and Hiddink and Capello and Trap. And some others combine success with good football. Guardiola, Same with Klopp, van Gaal, Ancelotti and Hiddink. . Even Simeone's and Conte's teams at least play decent football. How long are we going to continue to live in the past? His teams clearly have a problem breaking down defensive sides.Look at the personnel we have and look at Mourinho's managerial style. It's obviously oil and water. This team was not built for Mourinho to manage. I'm not the first person to say it (one of the few Chelsea fans that will), because many pundits and football analysts said the same thing.Mourinho will take the flair out of the team and turn us to a counter-attacking team that relies on a strong defense and quick counter-attacking transitions for goals (like Madrid, difference is we don't have Ronaldo). We will struggle against teams that are happy to sit back and defend. It's only a matter of time before Roman gets frustrated. He's still loved at the club where he managed. The tifosi of Inter still sing his name in every game and the Ulras sur of Madrid too, they even take his side against Casillas (they call him TOPO). All the portugese love him.Carlo has 3 league titles in 15 years, not that impressive, Van gaal has many many failures (Barcelona second stint, second season at Bayern,...), Hiddink, Capello and Trapattoni are all very good managers but they are in the game for far more than José. Go ask bayern fans if they like tiki-taka. We will see about the last paragraph, next year you'll see. Blue Traveler, darrus and Muzchap 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 I think we are in the Mourinho thread if you want to talk about anything else, there's the part "football banter". And please, for the love of God, when you have nothing more to say in a argument, don't use your supposed wisdom on the one who are born after you because that's just childish.your ignorance is bliss ..Mourinho is a manager ,, Shankly set the standards by which managers are judged ,, DO some homework child MrExcalibur100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 I'm certain if he was sacked tomorrow that 80% of this forum would be buzzing and start claiming for Rafa back.I don't think any of the people that are criticizing him here are saying to sack him.They have their gripes about him, and fair enough. I understand and I say just wait till next season. If next season still shit, heck I will be on the sack him now party. zolayes, MrExcalibur100 and Muzchap 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Zero trophies in 623 days. 2 trophies out of a possible 14. Hated in Italy, Spain and now England. Have you ever asked yourself WHY he has so many haters? Don't you think this is incredibly strange for a manager/ How he criticizes his players in public? How he discusses players' weaknesses in public (Mata, De Bruyne, Torres, Hazard). But have you ever wondered why Arsene is loved by every fan out there? darrus and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namika 922 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 your ignorance is bliss ..Mourinho is a manager ,, Shankly set the standards by which managers are judged ,, DO some homework childCulture is like jelly, the less you have it, the more you spread it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 He's still loved at the club where he managed. The tifosi of Inter still sing his name in every game and the Ulras sur of Madrid too, they even take his side against Casillas (they call him TOPO). All the portugese love him.Carlo has 3 league titles in 15 years, not that impressive, Van gaal has many many failures (Barcelona second stint, second season at Bayern,...), Hiddink, Capello and Trapattoni are all very good managers but they are in the game for far more than José. Go ask bayern fans if they like tiki-taka. We will see about the last paragraph, next year you'll see.The fact that is was the extreme right wing nationalist, Ultras Sur that was the only supporter of Mourinho in his last days at Madrid tells you everything you need to know. Portuguese love him? They respect him, not love him. Even the Porto fans have mixed feelings of him given the way he left the club and his subsequent apathy towards that institution. What you forget is how much Milan and other teams were or were not affected by Pre-Calciopoli Juventus. The fact is Ancelotti built a magnificent team that lasted for years and years (Inzaghi, Seerdof, Cafu, Dida, Pirlo, Gattuso, Ambroseni, Kaka, Sheva and so on) a team that dominated in Europe and played very stylish football. I don't think anyone can belittle Ancelotti's achievements to just his Serie A record. He has also won the leagues in Italy, England and France, won the CL 2 times, reached 3 finals (the joint highest with Ferguson) and has won many other domestic cup competitions. lionsden and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 But have you ever wondered why Arsene is loved by every fan out there?I don't know whether you meant this tongue in cheek but Arsene is much much more respected and liked by other rival fans than is Mourinho, despite his constant moans. Wenger revolutionized English football in the late 1990's and I have nothing but respect for the man. This is why I was amazed at Mourinho's ridiculous "specialist in failure jibe"Even Ferguson, the greatest manager in history would have never dared to say such a thing because he respects himself and the institution, Manchester United, that he represents. It's not Wenger's fault that he has not yet managed a team with unlimited financial resources before, even though he's had many opportunities to do so. Ironically, Wenger might actually win something this year as well while Jose wins nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 I don't know whether you meant this tongue in cheek but Arsene is much much more respected and liked by other rival fans than is Mourinho, despite his constant moans. Wenger revolutionized English football in the late 1990's and I have nothing but respect for the man. This is why I was amazed at Mourinho's ridiculous "specialist in failure jibe"Even Ferguson, the greatest manager in history would have never dared to say such a thing because he respects himself and the institution, Manchester United, that he represents. It's not Wenger's fault that he has not yet managed a team with unlimited financial resources before, even though he's had many opportunities to do so. Ironically, Wenger might actually win something this year as well while Jose wins nothing.Theo is that you? darrus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Plastics, plastics everywhere. Polo7 and Blue Traveler 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Im starting to think some people are copying and pasting from RAWK or the daily star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Wenger does have that funky coat... The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Plastics, plastics everywhere.How dare you! We should be winning the title and the champions league every season! We want a better manager, like Jurgen Klopp who has won sooooo many trophies this season. We deserve better. /end sarcasm. Blue Traveler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 I don't know whether you meant this tongue in cheek but Arsene is much much more respected and liked by other rival fans than is Mourinho, despite his constant moans. Wenger revolutionized English football in the late 1990's and I have nothing but respect for the man. This is why I was amazed at Mourinho's ridiculous "specialist in failure jibe"Even Ferguson, the greatest manager in history would have never dared to say such a thing because he respects himself and the institution, Manchester United, that he represents. It's not Wenger's fault that he has not yet managed a team with unlimited financial resources before, even though he's had many opportunities to do so. Ironically, Wenger might actually win something this year as well while Jose wins nothing.Oh yes the old imagine him with money line, the same line that was used on Moyes for years.Simeone is on the verge off making Wenger's money excuse look very, very silly.Oh and about Fergie, he told Wenger to 'shut his mouth' back in the 90's. Blue Traveler and darrus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,952 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Can MrExcalibur get banned already? It's like he's stumbled into TalkChelsea by accident and meant to go to Arsenal Mania. Blue Traveler and Polo7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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