The Mourinho Thread

[ZOS 580]

I think Jose has a soft spot for united... Jose never did/said anything to prove me wrong

[Strike 7,218]

I wonder what he is going to do about our CL-squad which is looking quite thin now with neither of Matic or Salah allowed to play for us in CL and with KdB,Mata,Bertrand and Essien (who were suposed to take MvG's place) gone now aswell...

Nothing to do about the CL squad. Anyway it's 7 games (at most) in the CL. Shouldn't be much of a problem. Use Matic and Salah in the Premier League games preceding CL games then rotate to the other options in CL

[Term-X 7,891]

I think Jose has a soft spot for united... Jose never did/said anything to prove me wrong

United Ferguson

Hence why red nose told Jose before anyone else (bar family) of his pending retirement.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

@GrantJames

Some footballers care more about playing than anything else. Respect to mata.

Some managers always put the team first. Respect to Mourinho.

[Thendo 1,088]

Nothing to do about the CL squad. Anyway it's 7 games (at most) in the CL. Shouldn't be much of a problem. Use Matic and Salah in the Premier League games preceding CL games then rotate to the other options in CL

Yeah, that's true it's probably not a priority this year, but still 5 players out (counting MvG) altough I guess Ake is going to be part of the squad tho. Just hope we don't get any major injury crisis.

[Shane 2,275]

No he doesn't.

Because he is contradicting himself.

When ba was about to leave he blocked it because it will strengthen the rival. This Jose had control.

Here mata to United he goes on and state how this club is special letting people go that don't want to be here.

No matter if it strengthen a rival.

Take a look at the deal sturridge to Liverpool. Did the board cared if it strengthen them? No!

Similar here, the money is good they accept.

I don't see the hand of full control from mourinho, but I still see the board having the biggest influence in what happens.

Contrary to what TX will have you believe that mourinho has all the power ala saf. And that's clearly not the case!

What are you talking about? Jose said himself he asked Mata did he want to leave, Juan said he did, So Jose allowed the sale. Your reading far to much into this.

If Jose wanted to keep Mata, he would have. The club would not have sold Mata behind his back. If Jose felt Mata was a valuable member of the team, Mata would be staying.

There's no of this, you have control over the Ba deal but not this deal bullshit. Jose has control on transfers and thats that.

[chelseathebest 150]

I believe Mourinho was wrong about Mata, but time will tell.

[termninja 5,290]

Ah that transfer of Mata...

Touchy subject really...

but. I wanted Mourinho here above everything. I wanted him here the moment I felt his winning mentality after his few press conferences seasons and seasons ago. My heart was almost broken when we sacked him, and I wanted him back every single day since that day until he came back. My heart was broken when he kicked us out of the CL and then won it. My heart was broken with every success he archived that wasn't with us.

I won't over-analyze his every move. Instead, I will give him some time because he is not your average Joe, but rather a very calculated man who planned his career a lot before.

My take on Mata's transfer?

Well, I'll be honest, I have always been disappointed with 1 thing is Mata's game - strength. He was so easy to disposses sometimes, so fragile, so slow, so helpless and useless when we were defending it actually made me laugh a few times. Like a talented little kid who was playing with older kids. That said, with Jose's approach, mentality and ideas he simply didn't fit into a player profile he wanted.

Sadly, even though Mata brings enough quality with his creativity, he couldn't express that enough when on pitch due to our, dull until recently, strikeforce. Things may have went a different way if we had brought a lethal striker who would score week and week out, but the fact is that we didn't...and Mata truly suffered for it.

I really like 2 things though. Jose wanted Mata away, and we sold him. It's a good thing to see he has the full support to make such radical moves within the club. It's something that makes me really happy. Let the man do his job which he knows really well.

Transfer of Mata is actually good for us this season. Lots of money back, Manchester who will aid us in the title race and maybe even sell Rooney in the summer. They will hurt our rivals and we will only profit from it.

If someone had asked me would I take 37m pounds (club record btw), PL title this season and Jose being able to work without restrictions, I would've said yes without thinking at all. There is always a price in life though

Again, a touchy subject I'll repeat, but let's sit it out and see what happens.

[The_Flash 1,144]

Forget Rooney can we have Chicharito, he scores for fun

[Rmpr 8,977]

FUCK OFF MOURINHO, I CANT EVEN SPEND A FULL DAY WITHOUT BEING BLOWN OUT BY TRANSFER NEWS!

[GZ25 45]

Forget Rooney can we have Chicharito, he scores for fun

If you can't stop him scoring against Chelsea, buy him.

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

Forget Rooney can we have Chicharito, he scores for fun

You don't want Rooney but you want an even bigger cunt? Well...

[The_Flash 1,144]

You don't want Rooney but you want an even bigger cunt? Well...

What exactly makes Chicharito a ***t?? (such a horrid word)

Has he slept with many OAP's recently?

Has he not accepted (unlike Mata) being on the bench all the time, and when he comes on he scores loads. He does not throw tantrums. He's spent a long time on the bench, not hardly half a season. Yes I would rather have him.

[Jase 43,479]

@didierforever, the presser you wanted earlier...

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1a9fjy_manager-s-press-conference-pre-stoke_sport

[Jase 43,479]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1a9hiu_one-on-one-mourinho-on-ake-and-matic_sport

[didierforever 7,349]

@didierforever, the presser you wanted earlier...

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1a9fjy_manager-s-press-conference-pre-stoke_sport

thanks dude.

[HD3D 1,038]

No he doesn't.

Because he is contradicting himself.

When ba was about to leave he blocked it because it will strengthen the rival. This Jose had control.

Mourinho didn't know what to expect from Arsenal + Ozil back then. It's obvious he wanted to be cautions and avoid giving them Ba.

On the other hand, Manchester United is in the middle of a massive crisis, with a manager that seems to have no clue about what the fuck he's doing, they are 100% out of the title race AND they won't be facing us again this season.

So I'll ask you these two questions:

- If Manchester United was still a threat to us this season, would they still be getting Mata?

- If Arsenal was in 7th place now after having already played us twice, and if Torres wasn't injured, would we still refuse to give them Ba?

If you think the answer to both of those questions is "No", then NO, Jose is NOT contradicting himself. So please just shut up.

Also, you're just making shit up. Mourinho never said he didn't want to strengthen Arsenal.

" I did not accept Arsenal's offer for Demba Ba because they would have been title contenders " is VERY different from saying "I did not accept Arsenal's offer for Demba Ba because I didn't want to make them stronger".

[Barbara 15,149]

Dude, why are people still having a hard time to process what's happened here? Let's do a recap.

Mata behaves in a 'frustrated' way at Southampton. Mourinho is asked about it and he's clear 'my door is open if he wants to leave'.

Mata doesn't feature again even for one minute, even against a Championship side.

Mata figured out one of two things: 'I messed it up with my 'frustration', I better leave' OR 'I don't think I can fight my way back into the team, I better leave'.

United makes the bid Mata has been waiting all along (not exactly from ManUtd, but a big club, in order to have enough minutes and play the WC)

The bid is something Chelsea agrees with.

Mourinho said his door was open, so he asked Mata if he really wanted to leave.

Mata said he really wanted to leave.

Mourinho didn't see this as someone offering 80m for Hazard (because even if they did he wouldn't release him, that's the difference between Hazard and Mata for Mourinho and why at the end of the day it's a Mourinho decision or at least agreement)

Mata leaves, end of story.

I still read the same old shit on Mata's thread about how Mourinho marginalized Mata. Mata didn't fit Mourinho's system - which has been proving to be effective. I don't give a fuck (pardon my French) where Mata played. He simply didn't fit! He isn't strong enough, direct enough, fast enough hard worker (work-rate) enough. He exposes those deficiencies in the middle more than in the wing.

If we're going to say Mourinho didn't play Mata where he should, let's also say Mata didn't give enough to make it work in the wing. If we're going to say Mourinho didn't give Mata enough chances, let's also say Mata didn't capitalize his chances.

My point is this situation is no one's fault. It's not Mourinho's or Mata's faults that he didn't fit the system. It's just unfortunate because the system is proving itself more valuable than the last 2 years POTY. It's not Mourinho's fault his choices limited Mata as much as it isn't Mata's fault his weaknesses limited Mourinho's choices. It's just a bad fit. End of story.

On a side note, I'm still not convinced Mata will work on ManUtd... I think he may have some trouble fitting their style (based on wings) and if he struggles he may face the bench again because ManUtd can't afford play a struggling player (same way we couldn't, but for different reasons). I hope I'm not wrong, because although I wish Mata the best, I wish ManUtd the worst.