The Mourinho Thread

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

What manager actually thinks he'll be appointed for a long tem job at any club? The Ferguson experience is a pipe dream.

Nevermind Ferguson. It'll be a miracle to see the same manager for 3 full seasons.

[supporter 3,088]

I always support Jose, and I still do. But obviously he has made mistakes this season (especially in their approaches), that's obvious.

But our club also has made a mistake in the last summer market. All the big clubs in England made big investments in signings to improve Their squads, but we were asleep throughout the transfer market. Even when Jose asked for signings last May when we were celebrating our fifth Premier League.

Jose has his share of guilt, but he is part of the problem, not "THE PROBLEM".

Signing managers like Capello, Mancini or Guus Hiddink would not fix our problems. IMO we have to try to arrive in the best way we can until 1 January and do in the January transfer market what we did not do in the summer market. Maybe with new players (with ambition to conquer the world) Jose can solve our problems.

But if Jose is not able to change our situation in the last months of the season, then, we may look for another manager. But we can not remove Jose (the best coach in our history) only by 3 bad months. Jose deserves a trusted time.

Everyone has a part of guilt and sometimes it seems that Jose is always "the villain of the movie". We made a big mistake in the summer market, and now we are able to to fix it the market in January.

We will not find a manager who understands our club better than Jose because he understands us and he loves us.

[DYC. 7,542]

Nevermind Ferguson. It'll be a miracle to see the same manager for 3 full seasons.

True.

The drama and negativity was always going to happen but I never thought an on-pitch situation like this would occur under Mourinho. If not for that, I think he would've survived/stayed for at least another full season. Now I don't know what's going to happen.

[Special Juan 27,421]

I always support Jose, and I still do. But obviously he has made mistakes this season (especially in their approaches), that's obvious.

But our club also has made a mistake in the last summer market. All the big clubs in England made big investments in signings to improve Their squads, but we were asleep throughout the transfer market. Even when Jose asked for signings last May when we were celebrating our fifth Premier League.

Jose has his share of guilt, but he is part of the problem, not "THE PROBLEM".

Signing managers like Capello, Mancini or Guus Hiddink would not fix our problems. IMO we have to try to arrive in the best way we can until 1 January and do in the January transfer market what we did not do in the summer market. Maybe with new players (with ambition to conquer the world) Jose can solve our problems.

But if Jose is not able to change our situation in the last months of the season, then, we may look for another manager. But we can not remove Jose (the best coach in our history) only by 3 bad months. Jose deserves a trusted time.

Everyone has a part of guilt and sometimes it seems that Jose is always "the villain of the movie". We made a big mistake in the summer market, and now we are able to to fix it the market in January.

We will not find a manager who understands our club better than Jose because he understands us and he loves us.

This isn't about love or understanding the club, this is a results based business were in right now, we are in the shit. It's not about being a villain of the movie, and whilst it's quite clear the players have their fingers in their arses the buck stops with manager. As a team we have been found out, and I think with it comes that Jose's ideas/methods are outdated. I want to brush away a lot of things that are said in the press because they are all wankers, but in amongst all the hullabaloo and what is happening I'm quite inclined to agree that the players have just given up under Jose.

Something has to give now, and it won't be the players sacked, but we know who and why, that's the harsh reality of football.

[nullabletype 987]

What manager actually thinks he'll be appointed for a long tem job at any club? The Ferguson experience is a pipe dream.

It's only a pipe dream because clubs and fans are impatient and any dip in performance is treated with the nuclear option. The Ferguson level of success might be fanciful for most, but it shouldn't be for big clubs with resources.

Clubs and fans a like can't demand longevity then throw in the towl when things get a bit rough

It's even more ludicrous if we go down the route of Ancelotti because we will have sacked our historically successful and supposed long term coach for a second time only to bring back another for a second stint. If you're going to have to re-enlist past coaches over and over then you might as well just stick with one of them.

[Fulham Broadway 16,827]

???

just checked on wiki, yup, hes Russian

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

just checked on wiki, yup, hes Russian

Seems a strange way to refer to Roman.

[couris 232]

Very good news. Maureen should not have more time with the players. They get worse and worse with every practice sessions under Maureen.

[Cosmin 2,484]

To be honest, Barcelona changed 5 managers since 2003, yet they managed to win the Uefa Champions League 4 times during this period. Ferguson's Man. United only won it twice in 27 years, right? Nowadays, football is not about long-term anymore. It's about adaptation. If you need to change, you change. The most successful clubs in Europe during the past 25 years or so, changed their managers constantly. Look at Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, FC Barcelona, Juve, Milan, even us. We should stop trying to find the new Ferguson. We need to find stability in ideas, not in people! Again, check out how Barcelona got their stability. It's not about the manager, it's about the academy. And that's only one example.

[Fulham Broadway 16,827]

Seems a strange way to refer to Roman.

Mr Abramovich to you. I dont know the bloke.

[lucio 5,418]

Seeing some silly stories that this guy could take over

since when has postman pat been a manager?

[Eidur the Spider 4,515]

This is all very depressing. Looks like Jose is out at the weekend regardless and so begins the managerial merry-go-round again for CFC. I am gutted, I wanted this to work so badly, and to last a long time. My dad's going to be super smug now because even when Jose came back he felt like it was going to end in tears again.

I'd agree with one poster above, I think the deal for the next interim (PLEASE NOT CAPELLO) is done and dusted. I'd wager it's Carlo Ancelotti, possibly Hiddink.

Hold onto your hats this is gonna be a fun week.

[Special Juan 27,421]

He's now going to be subject to an individual legal claim from Eva Carneiro.

[Fulham Broadway 16,827]

He's now going to be subject to an individual legal claim from Eva Carneiro.

Could get messy if it all comes out that Ivanovich/Hazard or some other player has been hanging out the back of her

[Pizy 18,368]

Marvelous. More drama.

[Jase 43,479]

right but imo that's the wrong point.

Jose doesn't play Iva because he likes him personally, but because he likes him as a player. He believes Ivanovic is the best RB in the roster and I happen to agree. We could do better than Iva at the moment, but that's irrelevant as we did not (transfer window) and Baba looks shaky still.

It's even worse with Fabregas. TPTB and I were one of the few who weren't crazy about Fabregas' signing - thought a bit too soft for that role. Yet, watching Mikel and Ramires "passing" the football, if you can call it that, is something I wouldn't wish to anyone.

No, it's not the wrong point. You can't preach about selecting players on merit (which Mourinho has done a lot since returning) and then do the opposite by continuing to select certain players even when they are performing poorly. Considering Ivanovic has done fuck all this season, Baba Rahman can't possibly do any worse than him. Yes, the latter has been shaky but he hasn't cost us any goals as far as I can remember and on top of that, how do you expect Baba Rahman to improve if he doesn't get opportunities to impress and adapt to the physicality of English football? Regarding Fabregas, I do agree with you but till a certain extent. Our options aren't exactly great but you can always look for alternatives, tweak things a little bit in the team, try something different.

[Jase 43,479]

He's now going to be subject to an individual legal claim from Eva Carneiro.

She's also going to sue the club by the way.

Eva Carneiro to sue Jose Mourinho as well as Chelsea

[Special Juan 27,421]

No, it's not the wrong point. You can't preach about selecting players on merit (which Mourinho has done a lot since returning) and then do the opposite by continuing to select certain players even when they are performing poorly. Considering Ivanovic has done fuck all this season, Baba Rahman can't possibly do any worse than him. Yes, the latter has been shaky but he hasn't cost us any goals as far as I can remember and on top of that, how do you expect Baba Rahman to improve if he doesn't get opportunities to impress and adapt to the physicality of English football? Regarding Fabregas, I do agree with you but till a certain extent. Our options aren't exactly great but you can always look for alternatives, tweak things a little bit in the team, try something different.

100% agree.

As for the bolded part, it isn't JM repertoire.