The Mourinho Thread

[Jase 43,479]

Nope not specific instructions like telling Courtois to get sent off or Ivanovic to let people run past him at will but something more vague than usual that leaves us at a disadvantage. For example he knows that a highline will be exposed badly with Terry and Cahill at the back but still try it at City, then using haf time as the perfect chance to bring on Zouma and basically directly point out Terry's obvious limitations(Stones message). Then he brought on Cuadrado to show how bad he is for everyone to see and again it sort of worked as he basically was at fault for the 3rd goal and he achieves his aim as evident by us signing Pedro 2 days later. Also for someone as intelligent as him he knew that Sterling and City will target Ivanovic on the right side so if he was really serious he probably would have played someone like Zouma in that CDM role to protect Ivan or at least instruct Willian to stay back more, instead he seemingly ignore this completely and as a result we were destroyed on that side.

In that book by Diego Torres he talked about how Jose told the Real Madrid players to basically throw the 2nd leg of the 2010-11 semi final with Barcelona by not comitting forward...etc but some players refused to listen. He probably didn't do it with us but I can imagine he knows exactly what he is doing to get the board to sign the players we need. I doubt it is a coincidence that our bad performances for the last month is just purely down to player forms. I mean that Fiorentina game we could easily win 4-0 if we really wanted but the players played like a training match compared to against Sociedad a year ago where we basically finished the game in the 1st 10 mins.

Like I said it is too many links to just be coincidence, of course it is not like some master plan or anything but he clearly knows what he has to do to get the players in and if that means playing worse than usual on purpose for a couple of matches then it is worth it. Remember this is the MAN WHO WOULD DO ANYTHING TO WIN. This is not my criticism, I am actually glad he did because we are seemingly getting the players we need thanks to his way.

Wow. You actually quoted Diego Torres as a source? I think that says it all really. You like twisting facts to suit your 'argument' and don't like acknowledging the factors/evidences that suggest things are not always how/what you think. Oh well. Agree to disagree.

[NishC300 1,865]

Hi friend!

Also for me it was a surprise that Jose did not bet stronger in Filipe as left-back and Azpi Right-back as. Maybe last season Ivanovic could have more options as right-back, but this season Filipe could have remained with us perfectly.

On our young players, I trust Ruben Loftus-Cheek and Nathan Aké as more credible to be in our starting eleven options. Aké can be important in Watford, but RLC is a big mystery now. He has unique qualities, one of those selected players, but he has to change certain aspects of their behavior, being more aggressive and fight every play like it's the last play of his life.

After them there are players like Kenedy, Nathan, Traore, Solanke .... which are very interesting, but in the short term (one year) they (IMO) will not have many opportunities with us.

I think we still have time to sign Isco. He has a salary of two million euros a year with Real Madrid. For example, Coentrao (a totally useless player) has a salary of four million per season. Isco has a very low wage. With a normal salary inside our squad he would improve his salary significantly. And we could offer him a fixed place in our starting eleven.

But I think that a signing as Willian Carvalho, despite his small injury, would be fantastic. A player to play close to Matic, and to be his backup. A player to win trophies.

There are few market days, but I think that Roman and Jose have reacted in time.

Regards.

A friend and I have been wondering for a while why Coentrao stays at Madrid? Since we're talking about full backs, could he not have been an option to sign (not saying we shouldn't have signed Rahman)?

He's a good player who hardly receives as much playing time as he deserves and could be at any other good club in the world. Also he's Portugese and is it not true that Mourinho likes him a lot?

[NishC300 1,865]

Mourinho's response to the "losing to managers beginning with P" stat: "If I was superstitious I'd say that when I start the season 2-2 I go on to win the treble. It was 2-2 Porto v Belenenses, 2-2 Inter v Bari and 2-2 v Swansea this season."

What a brilliant comeback to a stupid question.

And good memory compared to most other managers. Many people associated with the sport, can hardly remember a thing lol

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A friend and I have been wondering for a while why Coentrao stays at Madrid? Since we're talking about full backs, could he not have been an option to sign (not saying we shouldn't have signed Rahman)?

He's a good player who hardly receives as much playing time as he deserves and could be at any other good club in the world. Also he's Portugese and is it not true that Mourinho likes him a lot?

Hi friend!

Coentrao is a great player ... but only when he is focused on football.

Coentrao is a legend of the nighttime parties in Madrid. This guy prefers a night out to drink and dance than playing football. That was his big problem. In fact, Coentrao was in another Spanish team (Zaragoza) on loan from Benfica before going to Real Madrid and he had many problems with their fans because he did not have a good performance

because he was every night in parties.

And that affects their physical performance, because Coentrao is always injured by their muscle injuries. As a person and as a player he is a disaster.

But when Coentrao wants to play, he is much better than Marcelo. In fact, in the World Cup or Euro he has had a fantastic performance with Portugal.

Great qualities, bad head.

Regards.

[xPetrCechx 13,571]

VIPs: Jose Mourinho's last six ‪#‎BPL‬ defeats have come against a manager who has a surname starting in P: Pulis, Poyet, Pardew, Pochettino, Pulis (again) and Pellegrini.

[kmk108 1,186]

And good memory compared to most other managers. Many people associated with the sport, can hardly remember a thing lol

Too bad his memory is wrong. 1-1 with Bari

[Tomo 21,751]

Anyone think Jose intentionally set us up to be exposed at City to make a message to the board about our squad? I know if we really wanted we could have parked the bus way harder like we did in the past and they wouldn't have been able to create so many chances. I am thinking if he did then it is a good thing because I would rather us be found out when the transfer window is still open so we can fix it with signings instead of starting perfectly with a few 5-0 wins and wait until October for the squad weaknesses to be found out like in 2010-11 season.

While this might be cynical on Jose's part it is also beneficial for us in the long term.

We didn't even start perfectly in 10-11, not in terms of performances anyway, those two 6-0s were the two most misleading 'big' wins I've ever seen.

Also I very much doubt Mou threw the game, you do realise match fixing is illegal? Which would be pretty much what he done if he did what you suggested.

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VIPs: Jose Mourinho's last six ‪#‎BPL‬ defeats have come against a manager who has a surname starting in P: Pulis, Poyet, Pardew, Pochettino, Pulis (again) and Pellegrini.

Can be framed better, since march 15 , 2014 Mourinho has lost ONLY lost 6 games in the PL and it came against Manager's whose surname starts with P (which really seems so important doesn't it )

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

We didn't even start perfectly in 10-11, not in terms of performances anyway, those two 6-0s were the two most misleading 'big' wins I've ever seen.

Also I very much doubt Mou threw the game, you do realise match fixing is illegal? Which would be pretty much what he done if he did what you suggested.

Oh I don't mean as in official match fixing like telling the players to go out and lose on purpose or something like that but more like tweaking his tactics so our issues are exposed more clearly. For example anyone can see after the Swansea game how bad Ivanovic was destroyed by a speedy player and usually someone like Mou would move to rectify this straight away, yet a week later he seems to do nothing and as a result the same thing happened again. Also it is weird why we suddenly decided to play the highline in a big game away from home even though I bet Jose knew that would leave Cahill and Terry vulnerable due to their lack of pace, again this could be used to indicate that we desperately need a new CB. This is just 2 of many strange elements I have noticed about us since preseason, Jose knew these issues existed so instead of moving to temporarily fix them with tactics, he chose to let them be exposed further to encourage the board to sign new players.

Like I said nothing wrong with this and sometime it is necessary thing to do as we want to be found out early in the season like atm instead of like a few years ago.

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

I think the happy one is back. he is happy with the board.

[Jase 43,479]

Jose Mourinho puts himself on strict gym regime to improve team's form

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

OH MY GOD, GOD IS REAL! JOSE ACTUALLY SAID SOMETHING NEGATIVE ABOUT IVANOVIC!

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Oh I don't mean as in official match fixing like telling the players to go out and lose on purpose or something like that but more like tweaking his tactics so our issues are exposed more clearly. For example anyone can see after the Swansea game how bad Ivanovic was destroyed by a speedy player and usually someone like Mou would move to rectify this straight away, yet a week later he seems to do nothing and as a result the same thing happened again. Also it is weird why we suddenly decided to play the highline in a big game away from home even though I bet Jose knew that would leave Cahill and Terry vulnerable due to their lack of pace, again this could be used to indicate that we desperately need a new CB. This is just 2 of many strange elements I have noticed about us since preseason, Jose knew these issues existed so instead of moving to temporarily fix them with tactics, he chose to let them be exposed further to encourage the board to sign new players.

Like I said nothing wrong with this and sometime it is necessary thing to do as we want to be found out early in the season like atm instead of like a few years ago.

Fans of rival teams will see this and go tell the other people on their forums of your theory and they'll laugh their asses off.

We just got thumped by City. That's all.

[stroey 2,525]

Anyone think Jose intentionally set us up to be exposed at City to make a message to the board about our squad? I know if we really wanted we could have parked the bus way harder like we did in the past and they wouldn't have been able to create so many chances. I am thinking if he did then it is a good thing because I would rather us be found out when the transfer window is still open so we can fix it with signings instead of starting perfectly with a few 5-0 wins and wait until October for the squad weaknesses to be found out like in 2010-11 season.

While this might be cynical on Jose's part it is also beneficial for us in the long term.

This is what I've been thinking and I actually also made a post about it in the pre-match thread of City:

stroey posted Posted 09 August 2015 - 11:55 PM

Would you rather end the month with 5 points (losing 3-0 against City, draw with WBA and beat Palace) and see the board coming with 1-2 improvements.

Or would you prefer our team to grind out 10 points but see no new faces at the end of August except for a left back?

In June+July Mourinho hinted uncountable times in interviews/pressers that he wants to strengthen but could not do it because of the ''1 in 1 out policy''. Basically the impression he gave was, that the board/Roman did want to spend a lot.

So at that moment I thought ''how could he still convince the board?'' The answer was to lose big time against City, to give the board a wake up call, because apparently losing against Arsenal was not enough.

I do not rule out that he intentionally played a high line (like you said) and played Cesc in the pivot while he normally plays Ramires there, even in games like Stoke and Westham away.

[Jase 43,479]

Claudio Ranieri brands Jose Mourinho a "nice boy" after he welcomed Italian back to Premier League