LukakutoStamford 779 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Blame it on EvaBlame it on IvaBlame it on the MIADon't blame it on JoseBlame it on Schlong TerryBlame it on UEFABlame it in FADon't blame it on Jose zolayes, 11Drogba, Muzchap and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Essien19 1,415 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Excuse me, but this expert named Hamann knows absolutely nothing! Last year Guardiola was on his way to City, almost done, Bayern without a Chance against Porto in the second leg and the list could continue. I can do it all day, lol.I normally respect former professional players and their opinions, but this dude, i'm done! Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Good ol' English media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Jose Mourinho looks like he's begging for the sack... I'd be stunned if he is still at Chelsea in May, says Dietmar HamannRead more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3282782/Jose-Mourinho-looks-like-s-begging-sack-d-stunned-Chelsea-says-Dietmar-Hamann.html#ixzz3pEC7XHfb Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Okay, I want him gone aswell but Dietmar Hamann is an absolute cunt and one of the worst pundits I've ever had the 'pleasure' of hearing. erinblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Replacing Mourinho with his arch rival Guardiola would heat things up.If i remember correctly, Mourinho said in the past that he would like to stay in England and maybe London.So its crystal clear what will happen.Yes, Guardiola knows how to orchestrate a football team but for me he is not better that the portuguese.Furthermore Guardiola will change the team:Terry, Cahill, Zouma (bad passing), Azpilicueta (not good enough with going forward) Matic (one dimensional left footy)Ramires, Mikel, RLC (not good enough with the ball), Fabregas (Guardiola does not rate him anymore), maybe Willian too because of slowing the play down, the list goes on, would have to go.I don't want that to happen!Yes, guys like Musonda would get playing time, there would be good things too, but for me not enough.His 3-5-2 failed miserablely, Van Gaal tested it enough.If a new guy has to come, i prefer some young and visionary dude, someone like Tuchel from BVB.But i stay with Jose, he loves the club more than some of his predecessors, you can't buy that!Brilliant. Seems like Mourinho's love affair with sticking with the same ol' players has rubbed off on his fans and worshippers, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Drogba 2,000 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 We will know what the board and Mourinho think in January. If the board brings the players he wants then it would mean that they are actually behind him, otherwise we will see more bad results and tantrums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Brilliant. Seems like Mourinho's love affair with sticking with the same ol' players has rubbed off on his fans and worshippers, too.So you'd change Matic, Zouma, RLC, Azpi and Willian?Interesting....but hey it's Mourinho's cult apparently! Johnnyeye, Essien19, Adnane and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essien19 1,415 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Brilliant. Seems like Mourinho's love affair with sticking with the same ol' players has rubbed off on his fans and worshippers, too.Yes, i'm in the Mourinho corner or as you said i'm one of his worshippers, lol.Is it that bad, is it a crime?!Blue_Fox already said it perfectly, i don't want Zouma and so on gone!Now i give it a try, what would you change?Buy a lot of new players, a new manager and during the season a restart has to happen?For me that's not necessary, not today. stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 So you'd change Matic, Zouma, RLC, Azpi and Willian?Interesting....but hey it's Mourinho's cult apparently!My honest opinion? Matic and Cesar are the only two of those players I'd ideally want in my starting-11.I'm not a fan of technically below-average CBs so I don't rate Zouma as highly as most people on this site do. Everyone has their preferences and in my team I'm not sure I'd want him as a starter. Willian's okay but then again, is he really the bar that we should set? If we can get someone better than him (and we can) then I'm all for replacing him. And RLC... not sure anyone at this point knows what he's gonna be. If Guardiola wanted a proven world-class player at the expense of RLC it's a no-brainer IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 My honest opinion? Matic and Cesar are the only two of those players I'd ideally want in my starting-11.I'm not a fan of technically below-average CBs so I don't rate Zouma as highly as most people on this site do. Everyone has their preferences and in my team I'm not sure I'd want him as a starter. Willian's okay but then again, is he really the bar that we should set? If we can get someone better than him (and we can) then I'm all for replacing him. And RLC... not sure anyone at this point knows what he's gonna be. If Guardiola wanted a proven world-class player at the expense of RLC it's a no-brainer IMO.Spot on, but still you feel compelled to call someone who happens to like Willian or Zouma "Mourinho worshippers"?I think it silly. Adnane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Sort your problems with eden... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Furthermore Guardiola will change the team: Terry, Cahill, Zouma (bad passing), Azpilicueta (not good enough with going forward) Matic (one dimensional left footy) Ramires, Mikel, RLC (not good enough with the ball), Fabregas (Guardiola does not rate him anymore), maybe Willian too because of slowing the play down, the list goes on, would have to go. Find that to be a bit of a nonsense, no disrespect. You're judging some of the players there by their current abilities and making assumptions that Guardiola will just toss them aside. For all we know, he might take those players in his stride and actually help them to get even better - technically, tactically, mentally etc. couris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Find that to be a bit of a nonsense, no disrespect. You're judging some of the players there by their current abilities and making assumptions that Guardiola will just toss them aside. For all we know, he might take those players in his stride and actually help them to get even better - technically, tactically, mentally etc. I think some of those players are a little far gone to be improving technically or mentally. I don't see much change possible in Mikel, Ramires, Matic, Terry and Cahill. I think they are set in their ways by now. They could surely tweak their m.o but I don't think any manager could re-purpose them into something they aren't. Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 mata had his fair share of good games, for us 13/14. palace , spurs , arsenal off the top of my head. I also remember him playing 2 spectacular passes, only for eto to mess up both. Jose just wasn't interested in him.not how I remember it..... started off awfully versus Villa and Mourinho was right to sub him and apart from one or two decent moments in games didnt really improve. Seemed way off the pace compared to the others around him.Can remember being at the Villa game and thinking what has happened to the clubs last years winner players player of the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Spot on, but still you feel compelled to call someone who happens to like Willian or Zouma "Mourinho worshippers"?I think it silly.No. I call people who think that the current squad shouldn't be changed just because they "like" certain players blinded as Mourinho. If Guardiola came (which I don't think he will, but just for the sake of the argument) I'd be more comfortable in him choosing his players than in Mourinho doing anything significant with the current ones. If we can strengthen the squad why should anyone be "untouchable"? That's my only point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 No. I call people who think that the current squad shouldn't be changed just because they "like" certain players blinded as Mourinho. If Guardiola came (which I don't think he will, but just for the sake of the argument) I'd be more comfortable in him choosing his players than in Mourinho doing anything significant with the current ones. If we can strengthen the squad why should anyone be "untouchable"? That's my only point.So, are you a "Guardiola worshipper"? Can you see the point i'm trying to make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essien19 1,415 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Find that to be a bit of a nonsense, no disrespect. You're judging some of the players there by their current abilities and making assumptions that Guardiola will just toss them aside. For all we know, he might take those players in his stride and actually help them to get even better - technically, tactically, mentally etc. That's your right and not a bad thing, otherwise we all would be "yes-man".Yes, i have made assumptions, perhaps they are wrong, turning on the discussion isn't a bad thing. Maybe Guardiola changes with his approach, who knows, but against Arsenal Bayern Munich made over 600 passes,Arsenal around 200?For such amounts, you need technical ability and with all due respect, can't see Zouma, Matic and maybe Azpilicueta doing it.Yes, players can improve, but technically? I doubt it, sorry.Guardiola benched Martinez, for him he isn't a midfielder anymore, now he has to play as a central back.Yaya Toure had problems too, not everyone can adapt to that task.I don't watch that much national competitions, but during the world cup 2014 Azpilicueta looked in my point of view really poor.Not as bad as Lukaku for Belgian, but he wasn't up for participating in that style of play, he is better without the ball.Klinsmann famously said that every day he will make most of his players better, that backfired pretty bad.Making the players consistently better is difficult, i'm just cautious with such demands...Mourinho is also trying to make his players better, last season he accomplished it, but now, he has got big problems.In the long run he will get back, another assumptions by me, sorry.^^I hope that you are right, but you have to come up with good counter arguments, otherwise we have to wait and see. Blue_Fox_ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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