The Mourinho Thread

[Melanicus 5,208]

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

quite right mate. people are plastic because we want ivanovic to be dropped. hmmm.

by the way, give me a sane reason of why ivanovic is starting every game? please enlighten us as you are the "true fan", right?

Just have some goddamn faith. Literally if you won't support us when we're shit, then you're a plastic fan, you seriously think one of the best managers in football history isn't good enough for us and cannot get us out of this mess? Utter stupidity.

Afaik, I don't think Baba is at full fitness and that is why Ivanovic is still starting, not due to some conspiracy about Jose and him being bum buddies which you lot seem to believe.

[Styles 9,790]

José is getting exposed big time for his lack of tactics and imagination.

[didierforever 7,349]

Just have some goddamn faith. Literally if you won't support us when we're shit, then you're a plastic fan, you seriously think one of the best managers in football history isn't good enough for us and cannot get us out of this mess? Utter stupidity.

Afaik, I don't think Baba is at full fitness and that is why Ivanovic is still starting, not due to some conspiracy about Jose and him being bum buddies which you lot seem to believe.

so baba is fit enought to start for ghana but not for us.

why did iva start against everton?

why not azpi-gc-jt-zouma?

so why the fuck not?

why is cesc starting? RLC is not good enough to replace cesc in the form? then why the fuck is he even in our squad when players like pasalic and mvg are out on loan.

i will have some faith when i see jose making the right calls for the club, instead of the right calls for his players.

and who the fuck said, i am not supporting my club. i am supporting CHELSEA FOOTBALL CLUB. get your fucking priorities right. supporting jose is not equal to supporting CFC, understnd that? and the best manager in the history is the person whose stubborness and ignorance has got us into this mess. our squad is no way as bad as getting 4 points in 5 games and being 17th in the league. the best manager in the world should have made the appropraite changes after losing to arsenal, getting owned by swansea and getting butt fucked by city. but he did not. and we can see our current situation.

[didierforever 7,349]

José is getting exposed big time for his lack of tactics and imagination.

what? no he is not. he is the best manager in the history of football and playing ivanovic as a RB is the perfectest solution ever. did not u get the memo?

[robsblubot 3,595]

The travesty isn't Ivanovic starting, but Jose making all that money while some members here are clearly better at picking the starting XI team.

[didierforever 7,349]

i dont know if members are really better at picking a starting 11 or not. but some of us dont have the god-complex that jose has, and would be able to see some mistakes that we were making rather than following the wait and see approach and then saying "we played awesome. we deserved better" and making ourselves look like fools.

[lucio 5,418]

im almost certain most members could pick a better starting 11. mourinho is very lazy with his

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

so baba is fit enought to start for ghana but not for us.

why did iva start against everton?

why not azpi-gc-jt-zouma?

so why the fuck not?

why is cesc starting? RLC is not good enough to replace cesc in the form? then why the fuck is he even in our squad when players like pasalic and mvg are out on loan.

i will have some faith when i see jose making the right calls for the club, instead of the right calls for his players.

and who the fuck said, i am not supporting my club. i am supporting CHELSEA FOOTBALL CLUB. get your fucking priorities right. supporting jose is not equal to supporting CFC, understnd that? and the best manager in the history is the person whose stubborness and ignorance has got us into this mess. our squad is no way as bad as getting 4 points in 5 games and being 17th in the league. the best manager in the world should have made the appropraite changes after losing to arsenal, getting owned by swansea and getting butt fucked by city. but he did not. and we can see our current situation.

Ghana is on a completely different level to chelsea and nts have never shown much consideration for fitness -it's not their problem, see Delph's hammy injury for England.

How would playing a different CB at RB make any difference? Zouma plays on his left and I think Jose would know more about his ability to play on the right more than you do, he's probably tried it in training.

Supporting CFC includes showing support for the manager. Especially considering it's Jose. Perhaps you don't remember Scolari and the many interim managers we had, we are certainly better off with him instead and getting through this period. Although I would prefer to see RLC than this iteration of Cesc. He has ample time to sort us out, if this circus was going on until Crimbo I would understand, but it's been 5 matches.

I say again, have some faith. Having more instability and morale drain of losing a manager who is loved by the players will just inflame things further.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Again with the "Baba isn't fit" nonsense, when he just played for Ghana last week. He's in full fitness, ready to play. It's just Mourinho doesn't want to.

I read somewhere that Mourinho doesn't want to play anyone he didn't authorize the board to sign. That's why we're hearing all these supposed injuries for baba and he didn't even put our deadline day centerback in the champions League squad.

Hopefully it's all rumours, if not it doesn't look good for baba

[Muzchap 8,966]

Ghana is on a completely different level to chelsea and nts have never shown much consideration for fitness -it's not their problem, see Delph's hammy injury for England.

How would playing a different CB at RB make any difference? Zouma plays on his left and I think Jose would know more about his ability to play on the right more than you do, he's probably tried it in training.

Supporting CFC includes showing support for the manager. Especially considering it's Jose. Perhaps you don't remember Scolari and the many interim managers we had, we are certainly better off with him instead and getting through this period. Although I would prefer to see RLC than this iteration of Cesc. He has ample time to sort us out, if this circus was going on until Crimbo I would understand, but it's been 5 matches.

I say again, have some faith. Having more instability and morale drain of losing a manager who is loved by the players will just inflame things further.

I agree with a lot of what you are saying but it's been longer than 5 matches

If you take into account the end of last season, the summer and now the start of the season - the writing has been on the wall .

We just haven't bothered to read or adapt.

I mean - seriously - if Jose is the best manager, he would be able to sort this - the trouble is, I just don't think he has it in him to change. He is living off the past - not looking to the future.

This is how bad it is - give Pardew 3 games with this team and I bet he could get us winning, playing attacking based football.

There's no enthusiasm, heart or desire in our team - these were all traits MOURINHO used to be associated with - hell I loved our passion and heart, it has won us so much in the past.

I think the guy has just lost it on a power trip again and backed himself into a corner and now he cannot escape - it's damaging us, the team, the club and of course him.

I hope I'm wrong and we win every game from now on - but whilst fairy tales do happen - they are quite rare - I expect us to be managerless in a few weeks if results don't significantly improve - that's just the Chelsea way.

[didierforever 7,349]

Ghana is on a completely different level to chelsea and nts have never shown much consideration for fitness -it's not their problem, see Delph's hammy injury for England.

How would playing a different CB at RB make any difference? Zouma plays on his left and I think Jose would know more about his ability to play on the right more than you do, he's probably tried it in training.

Supporting CFC includes showing support for the manager. Especially considering it's Jose. Perhaps you don't remember Scolari and the many interim managers we had, we are certainly better off with him instead and getting through this period. Although I would prefer to see RLC than this iteration of Cesc. He has ample time to sort us out, if this circus was going on until Crimbo I would understand, but it's been 5 matches.

I say again, have some faith. Having more instability and morale drain of losing a manager who is loved by the players will just inflame things further.

ohk. so let me get this straight.

we have 6 defenders. one of whom is bought for 21 million pounds and is now so far off the fitness that he cant replace a totally past it and out of form CB playing as a RB.

and then we have 5 defenders namely (zouma, GC, JT, iva, azpi), we sell our only back up FB in luis, and start the bloody season with a totla of 5 defenders and you are telling me that our fastest defender (zouma), cant even play a makeshift LB when needed. oh wait, we did try him in pre-season and even in community shield if i am not wrong. so basically, that is just hopeless squad management on jose's part.

and then there is the fact that this 21 year old kid who we bought on 16th august is still so unfit that he can play for his national team but apparently not CFC (by the way, what level are u tlaking about? we have the worst defence in teh league. 12 goals in 5 games, and we should be thanking our GKs for their effort that its is JUST 12 goals in 5 games). so what level are u tlaking about exactly?

anyways, lets call a spade a spade. and put the blame exactly where it needs to be rather than throwing OTT theories and excuses. jose started iva cos he is our "untouchable". jose startes cesc cos he is our "untouchable". if baba was "unfit", was RLC unfit too? why is cesc on the pitch? if rlc is not good enough to replace a cesc in this form, what the fuck is he doing in our squad, since we have such "levels".

i will support CFC and its manager WHEN i see that the manager is doing things for the best of the club rather than just to prove himself and satiate his massive ego. a manager who clearly is doing things which are harming the club and its chances of winning, i am sorry, but i acant support that manager. my loyalties lie with CFC not in trying to find no good excuses for our manager's obvious faults.

none of scholari's, avb's or even carlo's second term did we look so hopelessly impotent. avb got an aging squad, carlo made some massive fuck ups in the transfer window, but unlike them, jose is simply screwing us up just so he can play his favourites specially when the solutions seem to be staring right at us. UNACCEPTABLE.

[manpe 10,861]

The fact is that we have been steadily going from good to worse. When Mourinho came, he said his and the club's aim was to improve the team. Evolution was the word used most often. And Mourinho explicitly said that if he fails to make the team play better, more expansive and proactive football, then the blame is fully on him. He also said the same regarding integration of youth players. Well, so far in those terms he has failed despite winning the league last season. Remember his words - he said that he cannot be satisfied winning ugly, there is no evolution in that.

Okay Jose, it would be easy to find those direct quotes from you from ~2 years ago. Now that we are facing the music and have actually been regressing badly, he is blaming everything from luck and referees to computer failures. I wonder if he really feels that way or deep down he knows that currently he is on the failure path more than success path.

[Azul 1,615]

I sometimes wonder whether people support Chelsea or Mourinho. If it was Benitez you would've wanted him to get sacked immediately.

I don't want Jose to get sacked but I want him to change his tactics and his stubbornnes. If he doesn't we will fail it's as simple as that. Get the Mou fanboy/girl shit out of your system and just think.... see things for the way they truly are.

There is a fine line between blindly supporting every decision Jose makes and actually seeing what's truly happening. Stop being a robot and wake up PLEASE lol.

[Kieran. 6,317]

Sort of get the feeling we'll sort it out too late to push for the title, but early enough to challenge for CL and win the cups.

[didierforever 7,349]

I sometimes wonder whether people support Chelsea or Mourinho. If it was Benitez you would've wanted him to get sacked immediately.

I don't want Jose to get sacked but I want him to change his tactics and his stubbornnes. If he doesn't we will fail it's as simple as that. Get the Mou fanboy/girl shit out of your system and just think.... see things for the way they truly are.

There is a fine line between blindly supporting every decision Jose makes and actually seeing what's truly happening. Stop being a robot and wake up PLEASE lol.

everyone has their tipping point.

for me, it was iva starting against WBA (even though we won). i lost all respect i ever had for him that day.

i feel people's tipping point will be when we lose to arsenal at the bridge. that would pretty much seal jose's fate too. but atleast we would probably fight for a top4 position then.

[Stats 7,147]

I sometimes wonder whether people support Chelsea or Mourinho. If it was Benitez you would've wanted him to get sacked immediately.

I don't want Jose to get sacked but I want him to change his tactics and his stubbornnes. If he doesn't we will fail it's as simple as that. Get the Mou fanboy/girl shit out of your system and just think.... see things for the way they truly are.

There is a fine line between blindly supporting every decision Jose makes and actually seeing what's truly happening. Stop being a robot and wake up PLEASE lol.

It is utterly ridiculous when people call fans "plastic" for calling out Mourinho. Yes, he has done a lot for us but that does not mean we should rest on our laurels and accept poor results/poor performances. Just hate when I see these members calling other members plastic.

[zolayes 14,489]

would we be in a better situation if we still had Mata ,, KDB Luis Luiz Lukaku .. of course NOT because if they were still with us they WOULDNT get picked

[DYC. 7,542]

The fact is that we have been steadily going from good to worse. When Mourinho came, he said his and the club's aim was to improve the team. Evolution was the word used most often. And Mourinho explicitly said that if he fails to make the team play better, more expansive and proactive football, then the blame is fully on him. He also said the same regarding integration of youth players. Well, so far in those terms he has failed despite winning the league last season. Remember his words - he said that he cannot be satisfied winning ugly, there is no evolution in that.

Okay Jose, it would be easy to find those direct quotes from you from ~2 years ago. Now that we are facing the music and have actually been regressing badly, he is blaming everything from luck and referees to computer failures. I wonder if he really feels that way or deep down he knows that currently he is on the failure path more than success path.

He did say that. But this is the best quote of all:

"I think,” the Chelsea manager José Mourinho says, “I have a problem, which is I’m getting better at everything related to my job since I started. There has been evolution in many different areas – the way I read the game; the way I prepare the game; the way I train; the methodology… I feel better and better. But there is one point where I cannot change: when I face the media, I am never a hypocrite.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/managers/jose-mourinho/11519921/Jose-Mourinho-I-have-a-problem.-Im-getting-better-at-everything.html

[kellzfresh 7,229]

I agree with a lot of what you are saying but it's been longer than 5 matches

There's no enthusiasm, heart or desire in our team - these were all traits MOURINHO used to be associated with - hell I loved our passion and heart, it has won us so much.

This part is what bothers me. We all know if Mourinho is really caring about our results, he'll go back to his style, park the bus and grind out results. He did this last season after we lost badly to tottenham, he did it the previous season after we lost to sunderland in the carling cup.

I can't believe he hasn't done this yet. It was unexpected like he doesn't care, "the refugees are really the ones under pressure".